Hounds vs Curs

[tnhillbilly]

  But there lots of Cur dogs out there that are long range, lots of hunt, and can easily take a track that is many-several hours old.  And lots of Cur dogs out there that will stay with hogs for hours and miles.  You don't have to beleive that but it is the truth.

Waylon

Where can i find one, What are some of the bloodlines of this caliber of cur, send me a PM if you want. don't matter to me what breed. I have only hunted with a hand full of silent curs, and the ones i hunted with couldnt smell their own butt, seen a hog right in front of them that they didnt see, they didnt have a clue it was their. but now if they could see or hear it, now , they were good bay dogs. Now, with that being said, do i think all cur dogs are like that?, of course NOT, but I have heard this same thing from hundreds of people. I have also heard that there are some that have been more selectivly bred and hunted that are more rangey, and have better noses, bottom, and brains. Where can i git one,
 
 
 

[BarrNinja]

  But there lots of Cur dogs out there that are long range, lots of hunt, and can easily take a track that is many-several hours old.  And lots of Cur dogs out there that will stay with hogs for hours and miles.  You don't have to beleive that but it is the truth.

Waylon

Where can i find one, What are some of the bloodlines of this caliber of cur, send me a PM if you want. don't matter to me what breed. I have only hunted with a hand full of silent curs, and the ones i hunted with couldnt smell their own butt, seen a hog right in front of them that they didnt see, they didnt have a clue it was their. but now if they could see or hear it, now , they were good bay dogs. Now, with that being said, do i think all cur dogs are like that?, of course NOT, but I have heard this same thing from hundreds of people. I have also heard that there are some that have been more selectivly bred and hunted that are more rangey, and have better noses, bottom, and brains. Where can i git one,
 
 
 

tnhillbilly,

its the same argument on both sides. I suspect most of us cur dog guys aint seen the caliber of hounds ya'll are talking about either. I have a feeling I would have a better chance of seeing one before Bigfoot but their sightings around these parts are definatly comparable! There has been a few but non confirmed! lol Unlike bigfoot I dont doubt they are out there. Just not many around my part of the country I suspect.

The problem I see with getting a cur dog this caliber is most folks that breed them rarely get rid of them. They dont advertise them and if you ask, they will tell you their dogs are nothing but potlickers. All that I know breed their own dogs and have been for years and generations. Maybe not all of them but just the ones I know.
Sound familiar houndsman?
Most of these guys are humble or they just dont want others to know about their dogs. I suspect a few are on this board just from comments made but I aint saying. I know for a fact several others that breed curs this caliber are on this board but have chose not to put any skin in this battle. Go figure.

Im starting to think this may be the deal with any good bread hunting dog. Cur or hound.
If you guys are keeping up with this thread dont PM me! I aint telling. he he.

The reason I stay in this debate is simple. Im enjoying it. I hunt curs but have a love for hounds.
I have personally seen curs that can do everything a hound can do and do it better. I cant say the same for hounds.
But hey, I dont doubt that they are out their!

[PLOTTMAN55]

Hound Man

[BarrNinja]

Hound Man

Another reason I like hounds!!! lol.

[tnhillbilly]

just wonderin, I am a hound man because thats all we have up here, and is mostly what i have been around, but defenitly NOT against owning a cur if i could find the right one. to me dogs are tools, and if any body has ever done any mechanic work at all then you well know it is a whole lot easier to get the job done if you have the right tools. that being hounds or curs. say you have 10 hounds and 10 curs just because you have 10 of each dont mean that any of them are gonna be the right tool for the job. sure some of them might work, but might strip some threads in the process.

[BarrNinja]

just wonderin, I am a hound man because thats all we have up here, and is mostly what i have been around, but defenitly NOT against owning a cur if i could find the right one. to me dogs are tools, and if any body has ever done any mechanic work at all then you well know it is a whole lot easier to get the job done if you have the right tools. that being hounds or curs. say you have 10 hounds and 10 curs just because you have 10 of each dont mean that any of them are gonna be the right tool for the job. sure some of them might work, but might strip some threads in the process.

LOL.
Cant argue with that statement! 

[HogzgoneWild]

Words of wisdom tnhillbilly!!! Well said.

[HogzgoneWild]

YeeeeHaw....I'm so glad I'm neutral

Quit riding the fence jump in with both feet. LOL

  For now still haven't found one I'm confident enough to own....but if I found a bluetick, walker, or black and tan that would hog hunt believe me I would... Those are what I owned but were from coon dog stock. So for now water is still too cold, just stickin in a toe or two

[Bigdog]

curs r just like ford truck they will quit u n a bind when u really need them.i hunt both but if all i had was curs i just as soon stay home. but they do hav :De there place and its under your feet till the hound strikes.

[HogzgoneWild]

Been huntin behind the wrong curs I can see

[BarrNinja]

My best imitation of "WestTexasCurs"


                 

[Wmwendler]

Wm I got the spot bring them curs lets see how good they are! Can you be here by sunday?

Well I made some phone calls and I found a 32 foot gooseneck load of top cur dogs but everyone told me they are not into the internet hog hunting thing and prefer to stick to hunting with other Cur men.  As for me well my dogs are out of service right now, my dog had his nuts cut last week and my gyp is in heat don't want to risk her being around any Hounds at this point if she got bred accidentally I would have to get rid of her cause she would be tainted.  Besides my dogs aren't the dogs I am talking about.  I learned a long time ago not to brag on my own dogs.

tnhillbilly......I just can't tell you where to get dogs like that.  If I did I'd probly be shot before the day was out.

This is my last post on this thread don't want to faciliate the psing match anymore

Waylon

[cward]

Waylon being you are out I am going to jump inn!!!  I have hunted behind several good dogs!! There will never be a HOUND on my chains !! NOW I have never hunted behind any of yalls hounds so if your are any different let me know!!!!
Here's my example of what I have seen and even owned in some hounds!!
Bark all the time on chains never shut up!!
Bark on track!!
Run track for track!!!!
Might run 8 to 10 hours and never stop the hog!!
So cold nose takes half a day to find one hog!!
MOST are one hog dogs they do not roll out after catching one hog!!
Have to be leashed after every catch!!
Educate running hogs!! Not atheltic enough no sure put a stopin on a runner!!
Now I do not run the same country that some of you do so that means alot!!

Now hear is an example of the cur dogs I use !!!
Short to medium range with alot of bottom!!
Take a cold track!!
silent!!!
Don't hardly ever run a hog over 2 hours because they have him stopped and bayed!!
Lots of speed !!
Lots of handle use them on cows and hogs!! Which is why it shorten the range on my dogs!!
Role out so fast you are going to tie some pork!!
Now this is JMO and how I have seen it maybe I need to see different!!
I tried hounds along time ago and just did not fit my program!!!

[TieEmUpOrLeaveEm]

Cward and Waylon This is no pissing match at all Im no internet hunter either! I just like to hunt with good people with good dogs. Where we hunt theres not as many hogs as texas So you have to have a cold nosed hard drivin long range dog. We might ride around to 9 or 10 oclock before we find a track to suit us I do not like catchin shoults
In my eyes there are 2 types of hounds, hounds that run all day behind a hog blithering away and hounds that you put on a track that trail them up, run him down, put some teeth marks in him and shut him down, and the hounds not handlin is bullcrap My hounds handle has good if not better than most curs! How many curs can you put on a  6 to 10hr old track and catch a hog consitantaly, or your tracking collar goes dead and when you find them 3 days later they are bayed on a big nasty boar. I like cur dogs ive owened them my whole life my grandpa been hunting them for 50 years. Im just saying theres hounds out there that can roll the dice too!!!!!! Hell the best dog i ever seen my Grandpa owened she was 1/2 treeing walker 1/2 Blackmouth named Lacey and next to that was a 1/2 plott 1/2 cat named Poblo.
Heck Im coming all the way to the big state of Texas to buy two dogs this weekend and one of them is a parker cur.

Cward And Waylon when yaw wont to come hunt just let me know and if yaw know where to buy one of them supped up cur dogs let me know

[BarrNinja]

I'll make a deal with ya TieEmUpOrLeaveEm.

If I find any of these souped up cur dogs for sale I'll be sure to let you know if you can do the same for me on one of those souped up hound dogs;) I want a pup myself.

PM me if you find one. Until then Ill be hunting hogs with my curs and keeping an eye out for Big Foot.

[cward]

I have not hunted behind any is all I say they may be out there!!I also said you hunt different country than we hunt!! We do have alot more hogs than yall have thats why we don't need a dog to trail a 10 hr track!! MOST not all fullblood hounds that I have hunted behind down here can't do what a cur can do!!! I too like catchin big hogs but when you are removing off a ranch then you better have a dog that can move out fast and bring your numbers up!! My curs would not fit your program and your hound would not fit mine!!Thats all I am saying!!

curs r just like ford truck they will quit u n a bind when u really need them.i hunt both but if all i had was curs i just as soon stay home. but they do hav :De there place and its under your feet till the hound strikes.

  This is the pissing contest that made me post!!  I tried to stay out of this but when a man runs a cur down then I am going to defend when I tie alot of  hogs with my cur!!

[TieEmUpOrLeaveEm]

My number is 601-508-6588. I wont this supped up cur to bay hogs where i hunt not texas or florida. Ive got 2 hounds that money cant buy! They might not be what pleases you but they produce hogs for me. And I dont wont a puppy I am raising 6 pups out of my english gyp and I have 5 Kemmer cur young dogs im trying also. See Im not predjudice Ill hunt any thing that produces hogs

I got a dog that will trail bigfoot if you got a dog to bay him lmao...
                               

[jdt]

well talking about being neutral , i live in west tn -about 7 hrs from east tn and about 7 hrs from east tx .

i have hunted both places . for one thing the terrain is about as different as it gets . for another the hogs are 2 different animals . them hogs over there in them mountains are about as russian as they come . in east tx they are turning domestic hogs out with them continually .

  good hounds , more especially big game hounds originated in the hills of tn ga va and the carolinas .

  good cur dogs originated in east tx .

  i dont know what kind of hounds yall have out there but i know that unless somebody has travelled and bought some good cur stock and bred right and kept'em good ... i dont want no curs from around here , the rest of'em are just the dregs .

i figure that it may be the same in tx with the hounds .

them old old boys over east of me aint too crazy about letting their families bloodline  that they been perfectin and protectin for 200 years get too far away. sound familiar ?

   this is my opinion i like hounds on something to tree and curs on something to bay .

[BarrNinja]

My number is 601-508-6588. I wont this supped up cur to bay hogs where i hunt not texas or florida. Ive got 2 hounds that money cant buy! They might not be what pleases you but they produce hogs for me. And I dont wont a puppy I am raising 6 pups out of my english gyp and I have 5 Kemmer cur young dogs im trying also. See Im not predjudice Ill hunt any thing that produces hogs

I got a dog that will trail bigfoot if you got a dog to bay him lmao...
                                

O man you have Bigfoot in your country?!?! Lucky!!!

We hunted them all out with curs years ago around here! lol

Seriously. I would love to have a good big game hound at my house that can do what my curs can do and if it could do it better then fine by me. Like I have said before, I suspect they are out there. I just cant find one!
It may be like "jdt" says. THEY JUST DONT MAKE MANY IN MY COUNTRY THAT I KNOW OF.

I've aleady found 2 dozen curs the caliber you are looking for but dangit they aint for sale. Ill keep looken if you will.