Black or other than white Dogos?

[Reuben]

Looks like pitbull behind the wood pile... Nice looking Dogo.

[chainrated]

Hmmmmm...   A picture is worth a thousand words... I can see now why he's a good catchdog. 
He's a good lookin dog TColt....

[uglydog]

That is a good looking dog and I bet he is good at his job I would be proud to own him too.

But DOES anybody else see a trend of Dogo folks still defending the whole entire breed based off a few good dogs, and not willing to admit that the breed has many flaws and faults as a breed in general?

"Except that by saying people bashing the breed must not have much experience with them?" Thats the remarks that get under my skin and many others that have been around many/multiples of sorry dogs for 10+ years, the Haters get accused of "NOt being Experienced"

How ABOUT If I was to say all you Dogo Lovers must not have very much experience?" that would sure get yall stirred wouldn't it? OPEN YOUR MINDS-Thats the deal I am not a Hater either I like the Dogo as a breed but I am realistic and they too are not the "Perfect" dog, although I too have used them for some of the qualities they in cross breeding, because as "WHOLE" the majority do not fit the "perfect" status in my experiences (cause thats soo limited and all )

 QUIT expecting others to accept DOGO as "the Best", then nobody would have to read 6,7, or 25 page threads, but hey I am just wasteing my time cause this will never end, Only have these arguements that drag out for a week on a few subjects
1. Dogos (heres last years discussion http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=17619.0 )
2. Open vs.Silent
3. Hogz Gone Wild

[leonidas]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_Dogo

And if you want a colored Dogo.Find one of the dogs that where breed to make a Dogo what it is today with the color you want....The worst thats gonna happen is you can't take it to a SHOW....or you can call it a day and just get a pitbull from the pound.... LOL

[TColt]

big chris, she thought he was a cross then he was ten weeks old, he didnt look anything like that, just a soft little ball with legs, he looked like your typical dogo pup. full grown he is 23 inches at the withers.

chainrated, thank you, I think he is quite good looking myself! Bein an athlete myself, Im actually a little jealous of how easily he gets so shredded haha! I got to get some pictures of him in shape! Maybe you get yourself a little dogo runt and you fall in love haha! But I can 100% grantee he aint got any pit in him. I think he would be a damn good cross over an athletic cur or game bred pit though!

ugly dog, I think there is many faults in the breed. When I was lookin for a pup I decided to talk to other people to see what they had, just being curious. I had one breeder try to sell me an 8 mo old pup that was unilaterally deaf the had great "hunting drive" for $1500!!!!! Are you fing kiding me!?!?!? This is the exact reason the dogo is the way it is. I have hunted behind seven dogos, mine which I got lucky on, to of cwhite which are unregistered but 100% dogo, three pups out of cwhites breeding which were all good except for the one that was abused and he was a good as far as the hunt went, and pauls addi dog. The pup i am going to get is out of the same stock as pauls addi dog. I will be the first to admit that I dont have alot of experience with dogos, but I do have experience with some good dogos. So most of the dogs I have hunted behind are the same blood, cwhites blood (5 out of the 7). Which is the way it should be, when you breed proven lines, you end up with hog dogs.

My point is, the problem with dogos is it is a "popular" breed due to its looks. I have a feeling the dogo may be the next pit when it comes to "tough gangster dogs" unfortunately. There are too many people out there breeding the dogo for looks and not working ability.

Another point I would like to make, is that when you do get a good dogo, they are hard to beat. I have seen too many "back yard" pits culled. I would love to own a pit, I think a GOOD pit could find its place in a pack of mine any day. But for the places I hunt (hogs always running except when I head east to txhogsanddogs land) MY dogo and the dogos I have hunted with work best for me.

I do not think that dogos are the end all be all hog dogs. With my dog soco, he has great speed for your typical cd, damn good nose, good conformation, and too much drive to hunt him on his own in most places I hunt. So I plan on crossing him with a stag hound, then I will have the end all be all hog dog haha, just kidding. But those are my plans for him. Probably crossin on stag him then crossing him back to a daughter to get 3/4 soco 1/4 stag. Hopefully ending up with some 80 lbs dogs with alot of speed. I think two of these dogs running with one or two good cur dogs would be jam up!

Pit bulls, like I said before I love pits, but I have seen soooo many pits be culled (backyard pits) No one I know buys a pit except for the $35 charge at the pound. More pits than I could shake a stick at, I have seen culled. So my point in bringing that up is that the pits that everyone talks about that are a dime a dosen, the majority of them are a cull. Now, there are some good ones that come from the animal shelter. But If you breed good working pits, you should sell them to good working homes. Not your first time dog owner, or someone who wants to look tough walking a pit bull down the street.

The best thing anyone can do for a breed is sell them to working homes only and cull hard, weather it be pit, ab, dogo, This would cut down on culls from all the breeds and we would see more of what they would really do. Giving a working bred dog to a non working home only does the breed injustice and is asking for trouble. In my opinion not enough breeders of any breed do this...

[Reuben]

before the laws got tough onpit bull fighting there were good pits everywhere. This was about 20 to 30 years ago. I do see more culls today.

[txhogsanddogs]

T-Colt i know you have some better pictures than that.  I'll find some more also.  Is that recent?   

[chainrated]

TColt, take a good look at some of them dogs in that gamedog gallery and then take a good look at that pic of soco standing on the tailgate, then look again...   

[dub]

What I was trying to say came out all wrong. I put my foot in my mouth and don't want to chew on it. But I am very sorry for offending someone I have so much respect for. I have a lot going on personally and just want to say sorry to Uglydog and anybody else I offended. I was trying to be respectful and really missed the mark.

[TColt]

Brian, only pictures I have of him not geared up where you can see him on my computer right now. That picture is not quite a year old. There are several pictures from hunting and stuff if you go back and look at my old posts.

Here is a picture that Paul took of Addi and Soco she is 27in at the withers and he is 23.


Chainrated, if believing he is a pit bull makes you feel better then you can believe that... it aint gonna change his breed  . If he was a pit I would say he is a pit.

Anyone who thinks the dog is a pit by looking at him definetily does not have experience with dogos, or at least doesnt know much about them. He is what a dogo SHOULD look like, just smaller version lol.

[Silverton Boar Dogs]

Great pic TColt, Dogos are not for everybody but a quality Dogo can be a very effective and very versitle dog.

[Dogojones]

I own Dogos and have been around the breed and it's bloodlines. One of the post
speaks of c whites blood ? Is this a breeder or a good hunting dogo? IMO the dogo has just as many faults as any other breed. When buying a dogo one sbould consider what the founder of the breed wrote (Father x Mother = enviroment) Meaning you have a better chance of a good hunting dogo if the parents hunt and the breeder hunts. Just my 2 cent

[chainrated]

 He is what a dogo SHOULD look like, just smaller version lol.

So you are saying dogos should look like a pitbull? 

[txhogsanddogs]

I own Dogos and have been around the breed and it's bloodlines. One of the post
speaks of c whites blood ? Is this a breeder or a good hunting dogo? IMO the dogo has just as many faults as any other breed. When buying a dogo one sbould consider what the founder of the breed wrote (Father x Mother = enviroment) Meaning you have a better chance of a good hunting dogo if the parents hunt and the breeder hunts. Just my 2 cent

Dogojones- C White is a breeder i believe out of N.Texas.

[BIG CHRIS]

lol chain!

i wanna get my hands on a good dogo/pit cross or get me a good dogo gyp and make the cross myself!

[TColt]

Cwhite is Chad white, he is a hunting buddy of mine. He is not a breeder, he just used to have a pair and bred them to get some pups. It's not a bloodline.

Chainrated, no, a Dogo shouldn't look like a pit, at least the majority of pits (a little ball of muscle with legs) But a true game bred pit should look like a "toy" Dogo, conformationally.

... Pun intended 


Just kidding, but who can argue the similar characteristics of the two breeds, after all, they both originated from the same breed, a fighting/baiting dog that is now extinct. When I say the look alike I'm not saying that the breed standards are the exact same with different heights and weights, I'm saying they generally resemble eachother. Just wanted to clear that up to avoid any confusion.

[uglydog]

  See everybody can get along and have a happy ending on a DOGO thread after all, 

So maybe we had better lock it down, so that don't change!

Seriously though, Thanks to all of you for staying civil! and respecting its just the internet and everyone is intitled to their opinions!