Some BMC pups

[waylon-N.E. OK]

Had a litter of BMC pups a few days ago and just thought I'd post some pic's. The sire was my Adam dog I got off Craig Loftin and a heavy linebred foundation gyp named Lana. I'm keeping both females and my little boy claimed a male, anyway here they are along with Lana the mom ( date was wrong on pic's sorry )

Females

Males

Males

Males

Lana and I

[bayed hard hog dogs]

Pups looking good waylon keep us posted on them like to see them about 8 weeks old bet thay Will look nice.

[waylon-N.E. OK]

Thanks and I sure will

[ETHHunters]

Those are good looking pups but I believe that female has some hound somewhere down the line.

[waylon-N.E. OK]

Hound blood - No sir -  I know this females line as far back as the early 80's she might look houndy in that pose to ya but she really isn't houndy built at all and I can gurantee no hound blood in her period. She is heavy Weatherford Ben on her dam's side and some southern Oklahoma foundation bred BMC on her sire side, she is line bred off those 2 lines over and over. Thank you for the compliment on the pups anyway

[SCHitemHard]

sounds like hell in the woods if she was in it! good lookin pups

[bayed hard hog dogs]

Hey waylon how old is that bitch dog on the bottom she looks good? Was just wondering if she had a black mask or if it has burned off already most of my dogs are getting gray pretty early in life and the weaterford line that I have seen don't really have a mask on um. And to Ethhunters she looks full blood to me yellow black mouth dogs come out like that all the time.

[waylon-N.E. OK]

she is 4 or 5 I'll have to look and see. She had a little short black mask when she was younger. She is a clone of her mom and grandma 100% except they were bad to bite a stranger and she is more tolerant but not friendly. she really show her WB side in her build in other pics. She goes back to a dog called Rodeo Cowboy on that side and can and will throw a bob tail pup every great now and then

[mod93dirt]

Good looking pups for sure. Let me know if any are available. I am in NE OK also(coweta), and have been looking for a full BMC to add to my beginning pack of dogs. I am new to this game, and have two pups I am raising up now out of some good dogs. One is 1/2bmc, and the other is 1/4bmc, but since I got hooked up with hog hunting I have always liked the yella dogs as far as looks go. I was really in the market for a female, but a good male would do as well I suppose. Just havent had much luck finding full BMC's locally. Once again good lookin pups and let me know about any available.

[Reuben]

I like the ears on that gyp. The pups alll look to be red, my favorite color...

[ETHHunters]

Sorry Waylon should have put one of these.  I was just joking with you. She's a very nice looking dog.

[Riley W]

NICE LOOKIN PUPS U GOT THER

[treeingratterrier]

When you have been around a ton of YMBC's you will notice those bell thin shaped ears on some of the older strains of ybc's. the dog i got from Lavon was like that and threw pups with that ear shape.  Seems to me the cowdog types of ymbc's have shorter ears and they feet/toes are fifferent as well.  I am sure hounds are in them somewhere but it must be 100 years ago when Jude Hart was coming from Florida to Texas in a wagon.  Whatya think???  Those Hart dogs used to be wasp waisted as well and a longer tail as well as i remember them.  I have never seen one of those short eared yellow curs smaller dog type version be as cold nosed as those older east tecksus types either.  That why i think people make a huge mistake buying into the cowdog strain puppy mills thinking they are getting anything other than bred for cows curs.  Think about how much more a cow weighs and smells and how much closer a cow ranges as well and also that cows are never worked at night or hunted from a hood like tolder yellow curs used to be.  I dont want any cur that is not from a hog dog strain, waste of time and efort when proven hog strains are out there and on this board actaully hunted by there owners not some hired handslol   Like this agteach???lol

[waylon-N.E. OK]

Mod93dirt Here is the deal sir, I don't raise dogs to sell. I would rather not sell any pups to anyone I don't know well enough to know for sure will work them hard, hunt them hard and raise them right. I bet your a fine fella but when these dogs leave my yard my name kinda goes with them and if they fail I am taking it personally, so I really don't have any for sale. But your in coweta there are tons of yella dogs between Texas and Kansas in our great state and if you want I can pm you the #'s of some people who might sell you a pup or started dog, I don't think my dogs are special or super I'm just trying to raise some that will gather cattle or find and bay hogs like a BMC should and earn there feed. God Bless.

thank you all for the kind words, and for the good info and glad to know the hound thing was a   I feel better now. Reuben all them suckers are gonna be red I think, I kinda like the real pale yella or even white colored dogs like Lana but it's just color so I'm trying not to complain because I know it don't matter at all

[ETHHunters]

Knightstockterrior I guarantee agteach would like it and agree 100%. I don't think you can put every cowdog breeder in that category because the best dog I ever seen has  some cow dog blood but he is a cross. But I know the ones your talking about and I agree with you.

[ETHHunters]

Mod93dirt Here is the deal sir, I don't raise dogs to sell. I would rather not sell any pups to anyone I don't know well enough to know for sure will work them hard, hunt them hard and raise them right. I bet your a fine fella but when these dogs leave my yard my name kinda goes with them and if they fail I am taking it personally, so I really don't have any for sale. But your in coweta there are tons of yella dogs between Texas and Kansas in our great state and if you want I can pm you the #'s of some people who might sell you a pup or started dog, I don't think my dogs are special or super I'm just trying to raise some that will gather cattle or find and bay hogs like a BMC should and earn there feed. God Bless.

thank you all for the kind words, and for the good info and glad to know the hound thing was a  I feel better now.

Waylon if everybody handled their dogs that way we wouldn't have anything to talk about. I wish more people understood to get where you want to be with a line of dogs that is the way it has to be done. Let's face not everybody can raise a whole litter of puppies. You have to have hunting partners or friends you can trust to do right by your dogs.

[waylon-N.E. OK]

ETHHunters  wrote - " Waylon if everybody handled their dogs that way we wouldn't have anything to talk about. I wish more people understood to get where you want to be with a line of dogs that is the way it has to be done. Let's face not everybody can raise a whole litter of puppies. You have to have hunting partners or friends you can trust to do right by your dogs.  "


Thanks for seeing that, I feel lucky to have been allowed the chance to get my hands on the stock I have, to place a pup with just anyone not only put's my name out there it also places the men who gave me that chance in the same boat, all there hard work and time spent on there dogs and there good name goes along with what leaves this yard. I used to think getting good blood was the toughest part, now I think placing extra pups into the right hands is harder. I will keep what ever I can't place with guys who I feel right about giving a pup(s) to and cull hard, and I expect any one who gets one from me to simply do the same. Be honest, don't get barn blind and cull hard & don't spare my feeling, just work the dog like a tool with out excuses. God Bless and thanks to those who paid compliments and sent PM's about the pups. I sure hope I didn't offend anyone or sound puffed up like I have some super dogs that no one can beat, I just don't want any one saying Waylon Stokes raises sorry dogs for any reason other than that is the case with what I produce, not because the dog was placed into the wrong hands

[mod93dirt]

No problems Waylon. I fully respect your position on your dogs. I am new to hog dogging but have been in the same spot with working German shepherds. I didnt want my dogs just going to any joe blow either. I myself have been very picky in looking for the pups that I have. I have passed over a lot of dogs just because I was not sure on the background. Sure, someone can tell you they will be the very best pups but you never know. I have been lucky to have a good group of guys take me in and show me the ropes, and they gave me the two pups I have now because they didnt want me to start out with crap dogs like they did when they first started. and I feel my chances are pretty good if the pups hunt anything like their parents.  With that said I would love to hook up and tag along on a hunt sometime. I have been out with the same group of guys everytime and appreciate what they have done for me, but I would also like to hunt with some other people to learn as much as I can and to see how different people go about it.

Just wanted to let you know no offense taken or that you didnt come off arrogant about your dogs.

[BIG BEN]

When you have been around a ton of YMBC's you will notice those bell thin shaped ears on some of the older strains of ybc's. the dog i got from Lavon was like that and threw pups with that ear shape.  Seems to me the cowdog types of ymbc's have shorter ears and they feet/toes are fifferent as well.  I am sure hounds are in them somewhere but it must be 100 years ago when Jude Hart was coming from Florida to Texas in a wagon.  Whatya think???  Those Hart dogs used to be wasp waisted as well and a longer tail as well as i remember them.  I have never seen one of those short eared yellow curs smaller dog type version be as cold nosed as those older east tecksus types either.  That why i think people make a huge mistake buying into the cowdog strain puppy mills thinking they are getting anything other than bred for cows curs.  Think about how much more a cow weighs and smells and how much closer a cow ranges as well and also that cows are never worked at night or hunted from a hood like tolder yellow curs used to be.  I dont want any cur that is not from a hog dog strain, waste of time and efort when proven hog strains are out there and on this board actaully hunted by there owners not some hired handslol   Like this agteach???lol

Huh? So cow dog strains of yella curs are not worth the time and effort to try and use on hogs?  Thats a very strong statement to be making. I might have to start culling before I even give mine a chance.

[BIG CHRIS]

When you have been around a ton of YMBC's you will notice those bell thin shaped ears on some of the older strains of ybc's. the dog i got from Lavon was like that and threw pups with that ear shape.  Seems to me the cowdog types of ymbc's have shorter ears and they feet/toes are fifferent as well.  I am sure hounds are in them somewhere but it must be 100 years ago when Jude Hart was coming from Florida to Texas in a wagon.  Whatya think???  Those Hart dogs used to be wasp waisted as well and a longer tail as well as i remember them.  I have never seen one of those short eared yellow curs smaller dog type version be as cold nosed as those older east tecksus types either.  That why i think people make a huge mistake buying into the cowdog strain puppy mills thinking they are getting anything other than bred for cows curs.  Think about how much more a cow weighs and smells and how much closer a cow ranges as well and also that cows are never worked at night or hunted from a hood like tolder yellow curs used to be.  I dont want any cur that is not from a hog dog strain, waste of time and efort when proven hog strains are out there and on this board actaully hunted by there owners not some hired handslol   Like this agteach???lol

Huh? So cow dog strains of yella curs are not worth the time and effort to try and use on hogs?  Thats a very strong statement to be making. I might have to start culling before I even give mine a chance.

kinda what i was thinking with my plott/BMC pups!!!