Dog Aggression or Dominance?

[Reuben]

What is the difference...lets see some thoughts on this.

To me...one form of dog aggression, from what I have read is not a breeding trait but is due to a pup taken away from the litter at a very young age and not socialized with dogs. In other words this dog does not see itself as a dog thus the dog aggression. I can't say that I totally agree with that.

Also, there is a pecking order that is established and usually it does not cause too much trouble or turmoil.
 Then you can have 2 dominant males that will never see eye to eye and it will take one heck of a fight to decide who the boss is. This is a pain but it can be dealt with.

Then we have that dominant dog that that is all it is worried about. It main agenda is to make sure that all dogs know it is the boss. This dog causes fights because sooner than later it will meet up with other dogs that are dominant but these dogs want to hunt and said dogs are just fine until this dominant dog gets in their face... then there is a dog fight. Hunters are scolding dogs and all hunting is disrupted... This dog to me is a cull and it will produce this in its offspring.

I don't mind owning dominant dogs that mind their own business and when turned loose in the woods they go hunt. These type of dogs are manageable but must be supervised when together otherwise there will be a big dog fight to find out who the top dog really is...

[Purebreedcolt]

I'm in category 2 sometimes with new dogs but not vary often.  There is a place for the third as the only dog but not with me

[uglydog]

Then we have that dominant dog that that is all it is worried about. It main agenda is to make sure that all dogs know it is the boss. This dog causes fights because sooner than later it will meet up with other dogs that are dominant but these dogs want to hunt and said dogs are just fine until this dominant dog gets in their face... then there is a dog fight. Hunters are scolding dogs and all hunting is disrupted... This dog to me is a cull and it will produce this in its offspring.

I agree with you about this being a cull, a problem dog. We (people in general) just brush it off too many times as a "Dominant" dog and truth is yes its Dominant but thats not what causes the problems, the problem is he is a combination of "Bad temperment", loose screw, just plain spoiled, or most and foremost aggression issues combined on top of being dominant.

I have worked with a few of these. The hardest one was the one that was a several year project, he was a very special dog. The last one was a cull in two months because, after all the dominance was worked through the aggression issues were still there, and maybe it could have been fixed also, but when I sat down and thought long and hard all about 30 minutes worth. The bottom line was this a major disruption to the rest of the pack on a repeated basis, (who don't have issues that need help) and there will be another 100 dogs come through my kennels that don't have these issues, why jepoardize the rest of the pack over one dog ?  Cut losses move on and spend my time working on a dog that has the chance to be a really nice dog, is the way I see that. I am all about trying to find that diamond in the rough, and everybody has to decided for themselves when to make that call. I know some dogs get a week with me and other dogs gets months or a year, I have to decide from my gut instinct to make that call, then live with the decision I made without regrets.

[noelle]

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I agree with you about this being a cull, a problem dog. We (people in general) just brush it off too many times as a "Dominant" dog and truth is yes its Dominant but thats not what causes the problems, the problem is he is a combination of "Bad temperment", loose screw, just plain spoiled, or most and foremost aggression issues combined on top of being dominant.

I have worked with a few of these. The hardest one was the one that was a several year project, he was avery special dog. The last one was a cull in two months because, after all the dominance was worked through the aggression issues were still there, and maybe it could have been fixed also, but when I sat down and thought long and hard all about 30 minutes worth. The bottom line was this a major disruption to the rest of the pack on a repeated basis, (who don't have issues that need help) and there will be another 100 dogs come through my kennels that don't have these issues, why jepoardize the rest of the pack over one dog ?  Cut losses move on and spend my time working on a dog that has the chance to be a really nice dog, is the way I see that. I am all about trying to find that diamond in the rough, and everybody has to decided for themselves when to make that call. I know some dogs get a week with me and other dogs gets months or a year, I have to decide from my gut instinct to make that call, then live with the decision I made without regrets.
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Very well stated.


Some dogs can be dominant and just not be aggressive to other dogs and some are aggressive trying to show dominance... There is a big difference between the two, a dominate dog should be in a sence the leader that the other dogs trust and respect as the leader and hunt with without dispute, I think aggression is partly hereditary but the way it's been treated or handled can also lead to aggression  many factors can go into why a dog is aggressive but the bottom line is is it worth the time to try to break it or just cut losses and cull it... I worked with one dog nearly two yrs to get him totally broke from aggression. This was a rare occasion and was the first and last time I will do it. And if a dominant dog forces his dominance to the point where it's causing fights continually then he too is a cull to me

[Reuben]

Then we have that dominant dog that that is all it is worried about. It main agenda is to make sure that all dogs know it is the boss. This dog causes fights because sooner than later it will meet up with other dogs that are dominant but these dogs want to hunt and said dogs are just fine until this dominant dog gets in their face... then there is a dog fight. Hunters are scolding dogs and all hunting is disrupted... This dog to me is a cull and it will produce this in its offspring.

I totally agree with the both of you...
I agree with you about this being a cull, a problem dog. We (people in general) just brush it off too many times as a "Dominant" dog and truth is yes its Dominant but thats not what causes the problems, the problem is he is a combination of "Bad temperment", loose screw, just plain spoiled, or most and foremost aggression issues combined on top of being dominant.
I have worked with a few of these. The hardest one was the one that was a several year project, he was avery special dog. The last one was a cull in two months because, after all the dominance was worked through the aggression issues were still there, and maybe it could have been fixed also, but when I sat down and thought long and hard all about 30 minutes worth. The bottom line was this a major disruption to the rest of the pack on a repeated basis, (who don't have issues that need help) and there will be another 100 dogs come through my kennels that don't have these issues, why jepoardize the rest of the pack over one dog ?  Cut losses move on and spend my time working on a dog that has the chance to be a really nice dog, is the way I see that. I am all about trying to find that diamond in the rough, and everybody has to decided for themselves when to make that call. I know some dogs get a week with me and other dogs gets months or a year, I have to decide from my gut instinct to make that call, then live with the decision I made without regrets.

Very well stated.


Some dogs can be dominant and just not be aggressive to other dogs and some are aggressive trying to show dominance... There is a big difference between the two, a dominate dog should be in a sence the leader that the other dogs trust and respect as the leader and hunt with without dispute, I think aggression is partly hereditary but the way it's been treated or handled can also lead to aggression  many factors can go into why a dog is aggressive but the bottom line is is it worth the time to try to break it or just cut losses and cull it... I worked with one dog nearly two yrs to get him totally broke from aggression. This was a rare occasion and was the first and last time I will do it. And if a dominant dog forces his dominance to the point where it's causing fights continually then he too is a cull to me

[FLBayNSlay]

I have a male Cat that is very what i like to call "Moody" He growls at other male dogs for a bit but can ride in the box with him no problem. He just does not like to get messed with, dont sniff, touch or lick him if your a male dog. I can hunt him with anyones dogs and he will run and bay and catch with any dog, No Problem. That is the only reason I have kept him around. He is all business in the woods, he minds good, walks on a leash with another dog. He's basically just a PR!CK half the time    rolleyesI got him and his sister at 6 weeks of age but are well socialized and good around any people or kids.

[Purebreedcolt]

Lol I am as moody as a hibernateing bear lmao just ask some I have hunted with

[tnhillbilly]

Lol, me too colt.  I have an absolute 0 tolerance policy for ill dogs.
only if its a female thats gettin cold nosed, and sometimes over dead game and thats only if its not shown at all any other time.