bay? strike? RCD? help dog? find dog?

[bluecrazy123]

just want some clarity on what each means? i have a dog that some buddies call a RCD some a strike dog? what's the difference in a bay dog,strike dog,RCD,find dog and help dog? or does it just vary depending on the person?

[noelle]

think it varies by person, rcd is a fairly new term to me, strike/bay/rough strike dog/ find dog... all this should b the same dog imo...a good dog oughta strike/find a hog and bay it, a rough dog oughta strike/find a hog and catch or help catch...a help dog outta b culled lol j/k but i like my dogs to be able to do it all i dont believe in help dogs. i think rcd means rough cur dog lol im not real sure i never had or called any of mine rcds but like i said to begin with i think it varies by each persons definition of a hog dog/find dog or what not

[catchrcall]

How I define them

Strike dog/Find dog-Finds, stops, and bays hogs

Bay dog- I use it for any dog that bays a hog.  Can be a dog that does not find the hogs but helps bay it.

Help dog- Does not find many hogs but will help bay

RCD- Running Catch Dog- runs loose on it's own or with the curs, and catches what they find.  Does not bark at or bay a hog, straight catch only, so really it could be used as a lead in catch dog too.  A RCD might or might not find it's own hogs.

This is just how I define them, others probably have different opinions.

[Txmason]

I also use my Catdo's at times as one out dogs, meaning I just turn one out and he hunts, finds and catches.  I have had the Catdo's wind, rig, road and put on track.

[ChaseG]

How I define them

Strike dog/Find dog-Finds, stops, and bays hogs

Bay dog- I use it for any dog that bays a hog.  Can be a dog that does not find the hogs but helps bay it.

Help dog- Does not find many hogs but will help bay

RCD- Running Catch Dog- runs loose on it's own or with the curs, and catches what they find.  Does not bark at or bay a hog, straight catch only, so really it could be used as a lead in catch dog too.  A RCD might or might not find it's own hogs.

This is just how I define them, others probably have different opinions.

I agree with what he said to a T. Especially bout the rcd part. It seems there are different opinions on that one but the way I understand that's what a rcd is

[TX HOG]

or does it just vary depending on the person?

you nailed it!!!

[SCHitemHard]

Now im different from everyone so nobody take offense but heres mine:

Find dog-(usually a hound mix); finds hog by scent or sight, alerts bay dogs to location of hog

Bay dog-(dog of your choice but mainly cur lines); Dog that keeps the hog in place till the hunter arrives

Help dog-(can be a bay dog); Bay dog that waits till hunter arrives with catch dog, then assists the catch dog in "catching and holding" hog for hunter

Catch dog-(word says it all); Dog that is walked to a bay by hunter then released to catch and hold hog so hunter will not be injured

Running catch dog/Stop dog-(dog of your choice); Any dog (find,bay,help dog) that hunts out to find and catch a hog either as a group or alone, then holds hog till other dogs or hunter arrives to seal the deal

[txhogsanddogs]

Now im different from everyone so nobody take offense but heres mine:

Find dog-(Any breed); finds hog by scent or sight, alerts bay dogs to location of hog

Bay dog-(dog of your choice but mainly cur lines); Dog that keeps the hog in place till the hunter arrives

Help dog-(can be a bay dog); Bay dog that waits till hunter arrives with catch dog, then assists the catch dog in "catching and holding" hog for hunter

Catch dog-(word says it all); Dog that is walked to a bay by hunter then released to catch and hold hog so hunter will not be injured

Running catch dog/Stop dog-(dog of your choice); Any dog (find,bay,help dog) that hunts out to find and catch a hog either as a group or alone, then holds hog till other dogs or hunter arrives to seal the deal

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[dan]

I agree with most of these, except: 

For me there is no such thing as a help dog. 

Every dog I keep will be capable of hunting/finding a hog, "one out". 

They will also honor a bay or catch. 

Some catch and some bay, but they will all hunt independantly.

I don't keep dogs with specialty jobs.  I do use the term catch dog, scrub dog and trail dog.  These are used to describe the dogs actions or methods, not a specific job.  The job is hog hunting.   

[Reuben]

everyone pretty much agrees on most but I will only talk about the RCD and Help dog also known as the "me too" dog. A few people call a me too dog a pack dog because it might not hunt but will run with the pack. The "pack" also means all the dogs that are running/hunting together which also includes the strike dogs.

To some a RCD is a solid catch dog that can be walked in. I wouldn't want one of these running and hunting with the pack especially if it is a pack that is long range. The reasons are that this dog doesn't bark so don't know when he catches a boar and then he can get the pack hurt or killed because they will help in catching and the hunter wouldn't be around to help out.
Also a running catch dog better be straight on hogs and not trash on cows or other livestock because this dog can do some serious damage to livestock and this can get you kicked off the property faster than anything...

I used to think a RCD was a dog that was super rough or gritty and would catch a sow or young boar but would keep a boar stopped. Some folks on here call these dogs rough bay dogs... and these folks see gritty and rough as having different meanings which I used to think that these two words basicly meant the same thing. So I stand corrected.

Now that I know the difference I prefer a rough cur dog/bulldog mix for a rough bay dog or Me Too dog. I want this dog to have enough grit or be rough enough to stop a bad hog yet be sensible enough to not get injured or at least keep the injuries to a minimum.

I like strike dogs that can do it all but the right pack dog or rough bay dog or me too dog or whatever you want to call him can be value added to the pack because this dog can shorten the races...

[zachW]

Well what's the difference I'n rough and gritty i thought they were the same

[noelle]

rough dog catches, tries to catch, and dont care how big or bad the hog is... a gritty dog is just that, gritty. mite be catchy to some extent, prolly bite u if he dont know you,mite not take crap from other dogs... just a good old tough dog... but not necessarily suicidal on a hog like a rough dog. I like mine gritty. some are rough too tho... big difference in the two in my opinion