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« on: August 02, 2011, 12:46:19 pm »

I have a pretty good cd that is nearly just what I want to breed other than he is a pound pit.  Every one around here I know have basically has the same as me.  Would yall breed him or look for someone willing to stud their cd out if they know the back ground of their dog?  I understand breed only proven to proven but I'm coming up a little short
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« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2011, 12:55:19 pm »

depends on what ur wanting to breed him to
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« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2011, 12:56:10 pm »

I personally like knowing the background on dogs I breed, BUT I always breed for ability first. I don't breed for color or anything else. If a dog will do what I want in the woods consistently, on different tracts of land (public land, ranches, deer leases, etc), by himself or with other dogs, I will breed them .

I hunted with a big red male cur in south Fla that I heard was a good dog and I bred to him based on what I saw in the woods, even though they had no idea who bred him or what was in him. My two dogs out of him just haven't been hunted much , but a guy that owns one of the other pups (there were only 4 pups) said his is the best hog dog he has ever hunted with.

I have seen dogs that were from known breeding lines not produce good dogs and I have seen them produce real good dogs. I think just because a dog may be from an unknown source he shouldn't be banned from a trial  breeding. He may be from top hunting dogs and you just may not be aware of it.
 
But I am one that definately doesn't have all the answers so you may want to use your own judgment!!   Shocked
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« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2011, 01:08:39 pm »

To a rough rough female ridgeback/bmc lots of leg and fast
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« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2011, 01:27:04 pm »

i think breeding to a straint pit you will loose  stamina and endurance   prolly some hunt to  you  are workin for a rcd arent u?
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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2011, 04:12:20 pm »

Yes once with this cross I am going to work on decreasing the pit just a little more work for 3/8 to 1/4 pit in the end just need the start
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2011, 04:14:43 pm »

why not  breed  to something already half pit
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« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2011, 04:20:26 pm »

Ok like what I'm sure open to ideas
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« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2011, 04:28:47 pm »

well you gyp is  bmcx ridgeback i am assumeing she is a strike dog

 so find you a pitxbmc   ridgebackxpit  dogoxpit   pitxdane  something as big or bigger then you female  so you dont loose size in the cross i would think the key would to breed her to something  that  is already  a rcd key being the  dog you breed to being all catch and its still a crap shoot
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« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2011, 07:20:30 pm »

If I were breeding a cur or hound to a pit I would use a leggy pit and cross to a real good hunting dog with some range and nose with a ton of grit. Probably a rough Plott.
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2011, 10:06:30 pm »

I thin the real question is what are you looking for???

1. The next up and coming Catchdog to take the throne?
2. A rough Cur short range?
3. A RCD with some size?
4. A gritty baydog?

I think if you want a solid Catchdog you should breed him to another Pit, if your looking for a gritty cur or maybe a straight catch cur with a better temperment then a typical Pit i would breed him to a ROUGH/GRITTY cur dog. If you want sum nose and a little grit I would breed him to a hound.

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« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2011, 06:56:43 am »

If the cd is the way you like them, then why not breed him to the ridgeback cross dog? I am not sure where this bs about losing stamina and endurance by breeding to a pitbulls came from, but it is just that, BS. If you like the dog and he has traits that you would like to see passed on then breed him and try the pups out. It you like them do it again, if not then cull them and try a different dog. When crossing up dogs like that it is going to be a gamble in the beginning, til you get a couple of generations then you'll be able to predict for the most part how they will turn out.
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« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2011, 08:12:39 am »

Thanks tmatt this is my thoughts but wanted some more input.  I am going to cull through them pretty hard so we will see what happens
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« Reply #13 on: August 03, 2011, 08:14:44 am »

If the cd is the way you like them, then why not breed him to the ridgeback cross dog? I am not sure where this bs about losing stamina and endurance by breeding to a pitbulls came from, but it is just that, BS. If you like the dog and he has traits that you would like to see passed on then breed him and try the pups out. It you like them do it again, if not then cull them and try a different dog. When crossing up dogs like that it is going to be a gamble in the beginning, til you get a couple of generations then you'll be able to predict for the most part how they will turn out.

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to me it would be a no brainer... If I wanted catch it would be to another pit. anything else I would want a rough dog with a nose and hunt and then to keep the hog stopped.

The hardest thing to do is to select correctly from the pups...because some will hunt and some won't some will be rough and some won't...
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2011, 06:54:52 am »

Reuben, I have a solution to that problem as well, just keep all of them. Cheesy
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