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Me and my main strike dog and buddy(Slick)
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Yes Mike , I bred Catahoulas for 15 years , I started hog hunting in south texas. Had some sure enough get it done dogs .Moved back to Louisiana and i couldn't give the pups away on the count of everyone was breeding them and just pushed the value down to where they were worthless. I changed my breeding on the blackmouth, i breed a limited number of litters maybe 1 a yr , and do my best to place and sell the pups only to hunting homes and repeat customers .That way I knowthey will be worked,I have the blood the pups just need the exposure.When they get it done the owner will call again.
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bignasty
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Yes Mike , I bred Catahoulas for 15 years , I started hog hunting in south texas. Had some sure enough get it done dogs .Moved back to Louisiana and i couldn't give the pups away on the count of everyone was breeding them and just pushed the value down to where they were worthless. I changed my breeding on the blackmouth, i breed a limited number of litters maybe 1 a yr , and do my best to place and sell the pups only to hunting homes and repeat customers .That way I knowthey will be worked,I have the blood the pups just need the exposure.When they get it done the owner will call again.
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No Bignasty, I started hunting some other dogs that just out performed what i had hands down and then were easier to train . I had lost my original blood in a divorce and got back some partial blooded pups but it was never the same .I met Kory and Boband got some of there dogs and was sold .
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.Moved back to Louisiana and i couldn't give the pups away on the count of everyone was breeding them and just pushed the value down to where they were worthless. I changed my breeding on the blackmouth, i breed a limited number of litters maybe 1 a yr
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mark, im buddies with KD! i know his cousin donald, and KC!!! i have hunted with KORY, i am under the impression he had to start over do to his divorce. i heard at one time he did have some top notch dogs. i had a chance to own one of his females that was bred and keep the litter, i did`nt and may very well have been one of the worst mistakes of my life. i talked to him a few weeks ago and he is suppose to be back in the emory area sometime in sept. the plan is to do some hunting!!!!
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Dogs hit the ground noses down! That's how we roll...
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tmatt
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The whole fad thing happened to the APBT as well. It just about ruined the breed!
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Be who you are and say what you mean because those that mind don't matter and those that matter don't mind.
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yellowdog
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I always thought that the best thing the BMC had going for them was when they weren't as well known. There sure wasn't as many to pick from in the past as there are now. I imagine is was just the same with any other breed. Popularity leads to all kinds of breeding. For money by some and alot of breeding with good intentions by others. "much of it misguided". Breeding to preserve the breed as they were when they were founded has it's merits and I strongly support that, but is not practical for the way most folks hunt these days or for the pigs of today. People didn't want their pigs or cattle all chewed up and wanted to lead all their stock to the pens in the past. Most people don't have the patience to let their dogs work and settle a bay and as soon as they hear a bay they send the catch dogs. I think you almost have to hunt this way some places these days as the pigs are going to break bay and run more often than not and alot of the dogs today don't have what it takes to keep them bayed or the bottom to find, stop and keep them bayed as long as it takes. I not only think it is due to the popularity now and junk breeding as I think there are very few who still use these dogs on a regular basis to work stock for a good part of their living. The dogs are so varied now you can almost get what suits you for your needs if you look really hard. From the stock dog with natural lead ability and classy baying style to the rough, catchy type of dog which seems to be more the norm these days. I don't think there is a right or wrong way to hunt. A man just has to sort through a bunch of BMC these days or know who has the dogs that suit the style of hunting a fellow is looking to do. Seems like hunt and bottom have taken the worst licks of all.
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u cant say it any better than that
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I always thought that the best thing the BMC had going for them was when they weren't as well known. There sure wasn't as many to pick from in the past as there are now. I imagine is was just the same with any other breed. Popularity leads to all kinds of breeding. For money by some and alot of breeding with good intentions by others. "much of it misguided". Breeding to preserve the breed as they were when they were founded has it's merits and I strongly support that, but is not practical for the way most folks hunt these days or for the pigs of today. People didn't want their pigs or cattle all chewed up and wanted to lead all their stock to the pens in the past. Most people don't have the patience to let their dogs work and settle a bay and as soon as they hear a bay they send the catch dogs. I think you almost have to hunt this way some places these days as the pigs are going to break bay and run more often than not and alot of the dogs today don't have what it takes to keep them bayed or the bottom to find, stop and keep them bayed as long as it takes. I not only think it is due to the popularity now and junk breeding as I think there are very few who still use these dogs on a regular basis to work stock for a good part of their living. The dogs are so varied now you can almost get what suits you for your needs if you look really hard. From the stock dog with natural lead ability and classy baying style to the rough, catchy type of dog which seems to be more the norm these days. I don't think there is a right or wrong way to hunt. A man just has to sort through a bunch of BMC these days or know who has the dogs that suit the style of hunting a fellow is looking to do. Seems like hunt and bottom have taken the worst licks of all.
I agree Bob, you just keep line breeding for hunt and bottom or "prey drive" as we call it and thats all we can do for the breed. I think as time goes on the hunters will get pups from you and Spivey and help this breed out in the future, I appreciate all yall do |
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Bryant
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Seems like hunt and bottom have taken the worst licks of all.
I agree, but I don't think this is limited to the BMC. |
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A truly rich man is one whose children rush to fill his arms even though his hands are empty.
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waylon-N.E. OK
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" A man just has to sort through a bunch of BMC these days or know who has the dogs that suit the style of hunting a fellow is looking to do "
Bob that's a darn tuff job to with as many BMC dogs as there are under every shade tree. I bet I've called and talked to honestly 100 different people over the course of a year or two and heard 100 different opinions about what kind of dog there breeding and why. I'm more confused now than when I got my first dog and now that I'm moving to a vastly different area that makes it even tougher
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make-em-squeel
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" A man just has to sort through a bunch of BMC these days or know who has the dogs that suit the style of hunting a fellow is looking to do "
Bob that's a darn tuff job to with as many BMC dogs as there are under every shade tree. I bet I've called and talked to honestly 100 different people over the course of a year or two and heard 100 different opinions about what kind of dog there breeding and why. I'm more confused now than when I got my first dog and now that I'm moving to a vastly different area that makes it even tougher
Not that I am the guy with any answers.... but dont you think the best thing to do is hunt with the dogs to see if they are what you like and if they are, then make sure your getting them from a source that is breeding in a way that reproduces a high % of the similiar traits (line breeding) regularly vs a guy who is just throwing together "good dog to good dog" ?? BMC or CAT etc that is what I am doing, Ive only been hunting for 5 yrs though and still keep a humble approach to this and learn from the old timers every chance I get, or cull the old timers not in line with this general point of view but still show them respect and courtesy |
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waylon-N.E. OK
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but dont you think the best thing to do is hunt with the dogs to see if they are what you like
that's exactly what i'm doing at this time, time will tell I reckon
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uglydog
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Blondes are whats in style this season  just look on the internet! |
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Scott
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Blondes are whats in style this season just look on the internet! Lol Sent from my SGH-T839 using Tapatalk |
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Blondes are whats in style this season just look on the internet! I think the "new Style" should be line bred hard working dogs! Maby forums like this can help that......  I am glad the dogs I buy or prove out for my friends breeding curs could care less whats trending on the internet or even know thats the case since they rarely get online much less market them.......most old dog men I know have a waiting list and its not from the dog trade or baydog . com!! |
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TimmsHogDogs
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I have blue eyed catahoulas not because I bred them that way but because they are some of my best dogs, yes i have sold almost a full liter outta him but I actually kept 5 and culled down to 2.... yes i understand the meaning to this post but some took it overboard while others made very good points
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