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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2012, 07:38:39 pm » |
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pick which pups you believe are from the sire you're wanting pups from, and then get them DNA tested along with the parents. to get 4 dogs DNA tested (both parents & 2 pups) will run you around $150. i had some pups tested earlier this year, and was happy with the service provided. if you want more info send me a PM and i will give you the website info and try and answer any questions.
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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2012, 07:49:56 pm » |
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pick which pups you believe are from the sire you're wanting pups from, and then get them DNA tested along with the parents. to get 4 dogs DNA tested (both parents & 2 pups) will run you around $150. i had some pups tested earlier this year, and was happy with the service provided. if you want more info send me a PM and i will give you the website info and try and answer any questions.
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« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2012, 11:55:27 am » |
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Still no puppies.... I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it stays that way. To my knowledge she was locked up on the 17th of September for sure and probably a couple times after that. I think I'm gonna give her till Saturday the 24th. That should cover it shouldn't it? If no puppies by then I'm cutting the feed back, dropping the weight and back to hunting by early December.
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« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2012, 12:11:46 pm » |
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Most likely the gyp is not proven at 10 months old. It would be best to cull them all and wait til she proves herself. But to each his own. That is the way I used to think. But I was talking with a very respected hog dogger that has been doing this longer than most of us. I don't want to use his name and pull him in. But I told him that I only breed proven dogs. He said that he does not hunt his breeding dogs. He matches dogs up based on genetics. Then sees what the pups do. If the pups don't work out he changes parents to get the pups he wants. Then he hunts the pups and keeps his breeders back to protect his lines. Just another way to think. |
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« Reply #24 on: November 21, 2012, 12:30:10 pm » |
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that's the way smart folks do it . kinda hard to keep line breeding dogs when your foundation dogs don't make it out the woods one day , ain't no differant than breeding roosters you get some good foundation stock and test the offspring . the brood fowl or brood dogs are tested by the quality of the offspring . you can cull anytime .
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« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2012, 12:35:00 pm » |
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Alright... Interesting discussion but start another thread!  Think its ok to start treating it like a false pregnancy Saturday? Cut feed way back, etc? Or wait a few more days? Never dealt with a false pregnancy before. By my figures she should have dropped already. |
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« Reply #26 on: November 21, 2012, 12:55:46 pm » |
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I had a gyp do just like you said. I finally got rid of the box. Went out the next day and she had the pups in a dog igloo house so I could not get in to check on them. She had full bags for about a month before she dropped. The problem I had was that I did not know when she got hooked up. She was always busting into my male's kennel. You know how them women are But I figured she had full bags within a week of getting pregnant so it threw my date off when I expected her to drop. Feel from the sides to see if you can feel some pups. If she is going too long you might want to take her for an ultrasound. Things could have gone bad and your female die. Call your vet and most will do a quick ultrasound without emptying your wallet. Be sure to put her in something just in case she drops on the way. |
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« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2012, 02:25:02 pm » |
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that's the way smart folks do it . kinda hard to keep line breeding dogs when your foundation dogs don't make it out the woods one day , ain't no differant than breeding roosters you get some good foundation stock and test the offspring . the brood fowl or brood dogs are tested by the quality of the offspring . you can cull anytime .
No disrespect intended to you, but if a cur dog dies at 10months-2 yrs old on a hog in the woods, then that dog has "proven" to be a bit more careless than I'd want as my "foundation". Now, accidents do happen of course but I'd say on the whole that natural selection is helping to ensure that a carelessly gritty dog isn't spreading his careless genes around. I would hate to spend year after year after year having to always run a pack of pups because I was too proud to recognize that all of the dogs I'd been producing have a tendency to get killed by their second year of hunting. |
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