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« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2013, 07:37:09 pm » |
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Clean the heads surface area with a flat piece of steel. Only resurface if they are warped. Over heating an engine can cause warping but simply resurfacing them makes them usable. If they take so much off the compression is changed then they don't know what they are doing. Any real machine shop will check the surface and resurface if needed. It is checking for cracks that can't be seen that is really important because they can detect stuff you can't. I can get some angle iron, vice grips, and some cleaner then they will look brand new. But they could be cracked. I bet you can a youtube showing you how to clean the surface of a head like I was shown. I did not come up with it that is the way shops do it. Make sure the angle iron is longer than the head is wide. As you clean the gasket material off you will see any warping. Or just take it to a shop and they can do it.
I always get parts from the junkyard. Just get what looks the best. Sometimes you can take it back and exchange it if it is bad even at a junkyard. Check return policies posted at the junkyard. As long as you aren't trying to cheat them they are cool. But remeber they deal with crooks everyday so they try to be careful.
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« Reply #41 on: March 29, 2013, 08:20:27 pm » |
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I'm gonna start tearin into it tomorrow to see what there us to see. I've been drivin it from crockett to madisonville since monday and hadn't added water but once. Still havin water comin out the exhaust all the time though.. kinda hopin its just a gasket. Doesn't seem to have the power it did before. Guess ill find out tomorrow
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« Reply #42 on: March 30, 2013, 04:21:40 pm » |
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Got the drivers side mostly tore apart didn't really get to it till about 2 but there's a real thick cream colored sludge all over everything. Ain't got the head off yet tryin to figure out the easiest way to do it.. bout all I can tell now is that whoever had the truck before me didn't take very good care of it.. but then again its dang near 20 years old..
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« Reply #43 on: March 30, 2013, 05:07:26 pm » |
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that thick creamy sludge is water and oil mixed. I had a 6.9 international that the head gasket blew, nvr overheated but would deff was allowing a lil water into the oil system once it was shut off. when I tore it down, there was a thick creamy sludge in the valve covers. unless you know deff which side is leaking, it would b best to pull both sides down, replace all gaskets of course and also drain the oil and coolant, flush both and then reservice.
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« Reply #44 on: March 30, 2013, 05:12:32 pm » |
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That's mainly where the sludge is.. this thing is bein a b*&$@. Only truck I've pulled the head on was a 98 cummins and that was gravy compared to this. Definitely know what I'm shoppin for next
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« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2013, 07:06:58 pm » |
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The sludge is on both sides. Can kinda see maybe where the gaskets gone on the passenger side ill find out tomorrow when I get the rest of it apart
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« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2013, 08:14:26 pm » |
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Keep us posted. Im curious which cylinder blew out the gasket. If i was closer n wasnt getn a headache from this dang flight trip planing crap i would giv ya hand. Fixn to eat 4 or 5 hydros to ease the headache. Good luck man
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« Reply #47 on: March 31, 2013, 12:19:09 pm » |
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Got the passenger side pulled right before it started sprinklin. That sob did NOT wanna come off! When I pulled the plugs on the #2 cylinder it looked red and kinda rusty when I pulled the head that one was out all the way. But the #6 was compressed with water standin in the cylinder gasket looks intact but there's a cardboard feelin gasket that was all torn that goes to the plate that the throttle body sits on. Could that make it get water to the cylinders?
Waitin on abuddy now to take me to go get some degreaser to clean up thehead to check for visible cracks
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« Reply #48 on: March 31, 2013, 03:05:10 pm » |
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Its sittin as a bare block now. All the plugs on the drivers side had that rust color to em and the number 5 cylinder has standin water in it also its half compressed. #4 is compressed all the way with no water
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« Reply #49 on: March 31, 2013, 04:54:46 pm » |
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The carboard gasket under the throttle body being torn wont allow water, it wont allow the correct air/fuel mixture into the cylinders. There will b more air than fuel. Where there any head bolts with more corrosion than than others? If so, thats where the gasket blew out, allown for more than normal high temp to the bolt, compression blow by carboning up the bolt and water movin around the bolt, causing it to rust faster than others
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« Reply #50 on: March 31, 2013, 05:37:45 pm » |
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Just surface rust. No deep corrosion
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« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2013, 06:13:02 pm » |
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My old 6.9 int blew its head gasket n the last head bolt on the left was siezed so bad in the head from carbon buil up, cooked onto the shank so thick, i had to take a hack saw n cut the bolt in half, hand screwed outa the block and had to beet the bolt outa the head.
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« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2013, 06:30:40 pm » |
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This ain't anywhere near that bad lol
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« Reply #53 on: March 31, 2013, 06:34:11 pm » |
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Just some redneck inginuity a couple beat up knuckles and a few words my momma used to bring out the switch for lol
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« Reply #54 on: April 01, 2013, 07:57:06 pm » |
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A trip to a machine shop to sheck the heads is money well spent IMO. Nothing worse than putting it together and have to take it apart again.
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