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« on: September 04, 2013, 08:50:42 pm » |
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Well I got a crazy idea. I need some stainless 55 gl drums. I found some out of state but the shipping is a killer. Does anybody know where I could pick up used ones within a day trip of Houston? I also need stainless tables. I don't care what condition because I will be cutting and welding them to make what I need. I will be making this on a skid so I will need either pipe or I beams. Maybe somebody has some used skid laying around they will sell cheap that fits on a trailer. I don't have big money to spend. I am still stuck working at a grocery store to take care of the family. I will be getting a cheap TIG to get things done. I don't mind doing some work to offset costs or whatever. I just need the whole thing to be able to be moved on a trailer when I am done. I have already designed my whole setup. Let me know if you have seen something laying around and if you know who to contact.
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« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2013, 09:09:35 pm » |
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There a so many scrappers these days and the price of stainless being sky high it will be hard to find!! But if I see some I will let you know.
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« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2013, 09:20:06 pm » |
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I guess i shoulda grabbed the stainless pipe. They were buildin somethin on ft hood n had 30" stainless pipe. I grabbed a 1 1/2" thick stainless flange ring that was just "laying" around. Warren, would it be cheaper to buy the metal in flat sheets, roll them for ur barrels n weld the seam up? U mite ck with a resteraunt that is remodeling or goin out of business n see if u can pick up the food prep tabels up for possibly cheap or even scrap yards, take a walk through them n see if they hav anything that could be manipulated into what u want
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« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2013, 09:46:56 pm » |
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I will go and see some people I know in the scrap business. The people I asked already did not have anything. Just hoping maybe someone has a broken legged table in the barn or something. I will have to get fittings and stuff. The big thing is the stainless drums. I just don't know where to look for used ones. I heard they use them for dairy and soft dring industry. I asked some people at Coca Cola but they had not seen any. They kind of stand out so I hoped somebody on here had seen some walking through somewhere. I think some oil field equipemnt gets shipped in them too. I don't mind paying scrap price I just don't want anything so nice I have to pay much more than scrap because I am sure I will mess some up on my first few tries at welding it.
I really do not need drums I just need to have clean water in stainless tanks and figured they would be a cheaper solution. Not sure what the price of sheets are but I may make a call tomorrow to find out. TIG welds are water tight.
Anybody made a skid? I am guessing two skids of I beam or pipe and then some cross braces. That way when I am ready to go into business I can winch it onto a trailer and then pull it off in a warehouse. Then just hook it up to power and water and I am rolling.
It will be for a food product so I would like to use as much stainless as possible.
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2013, 08:50:03 am » |
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What bout using beer kegs instead of drums? What do the skids need to be made from, stainless or can they be steel? Makin skids is easy, like u stated, pipe or i-beam will work n yea, put cross bracings in it based on how much weight ur asking it to hold up.
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2013, 04:13:13 pm » |
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going into the bathtub gin bizz lol . but seriously check your local kitchen supplyers and remodlers they may have a bunch of used stuff after some jobs . I know when I was plumbing the school remodels they would just rip out the old stuff from the kitchens and take it back to the shop .
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2013, 09:51:23 pm » |
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Kegs would be a good idea if they are big ejough for you. You could even weld a couple together if need be.
If I read right, you said picking up a chrap tig? Why not just get a wire feed? I would think it would be cheaper, easier and faster and more mobile welding
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2013, 10:52:54 pm » |
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Kegs would be a good idea if they are big ejough for you. You could even weld a couple together if need be.
If I read right, you said picking up a chrap tig? Why not just get a wire feed? I would think it would be cheaper, easier and faster and more mobile welding
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I never welded stainless. But I was told TIG was the most water tight. I can get one for $200 that I am sure is not the best but if it last through the project I am good. I have some kegs but needed larger conainers. It will not be holding much weight besides the metal and a few hundred gallons of water. I just need to build it in my backyard and then get a warehouse when I am ready to start. That way I do not have to pay rent while I am building the equipment. I can make the skid out of anything. I only need stainless for the places food products will touch. So the skid can be anything. I will also need a deck to walk on and I think I will use expanded metal, diamond plate or something. The stainless I need is the drums. for the control panels and a prep area. I have friend in the scrap business but he is out at his ranch and turns his phone off. His wife said he should be back in a few days. But word travels out by other people coming and going. He hates being bugged about anything relating to work when he is off so I have to wait.
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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2013, 10:58:51 pm » |
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Do the containers HAVE to be metal containers or would them 250gal food grade totes work? If u dont wanna put ur project out in the pm me or call me tomorrow if u wanna go over ur project instead of playing internet tag.
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2013, 11:12:52 pm » |
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If you have mig welded before, go with what you know. To me, it would be much easier. And, a good weld is a good weld...the method don't really matter, but both ways have pros and cons
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« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2013, 07:05:23 pm » |
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What is lowest cost way of welding stainless might or stick?
My scrap friend said he can get me stainless drums.
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« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2013, 07:31:59 pm » |
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Lowest cost welding would be stick, mig gets in the pocket book bc of wire n gas, n tig is the cost of the machine n extra gas cost.
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« Reply #12 on: September 06, 2013, 10:42:08 pm » |
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going into the bathtub gin bizz lol . Don't tell the revenuers I think I will just go with MIG. My welder got stolen a while back. To get a TIG that can do aluminum it cost way too much. I will just go with another MIG and I can just get a spool gun if I need to weld aluminum. Plus MIG is easier than stick because I hate stopping to change sticks in the middle of a weld and then knocking the slag off. MIG just weld and go. Now I just got to go find the best price on a MIG. My friend told me not to buy any metal because he can get it for me at scrap price.
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