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[charles]

 ok, im wanting to wire my portable building, powering it from my service pole. I also want to a dedicated single 240 and quad 110 extension cord. I plan on putting a breaker box in my portable building, running 220 to it, branching off with a 220 outlet and 110 outlets for the rest of my building. my problem is, the service pole box looks like a 1920s era box with a single 100amp breaker with NO places to add additional breakers. I think im gonna have to replace the service pole box with a modern panel that has upgrade capabilities. is there any sparkys in the central tx/temple, tx area that could assist me? ill get a pic of my service pole panel box in a few.

my amp draw for the extension cord will need to be a continuous 20amp for my 220 welder (19.6amps) during its duty cycle, my chop saw draws 15 amps and the drill, 4 1/2" grinder and circular saws probably draw 5-10 amps each, but with only 2 hands, I cant run them all at the same time, so I was figuring a 20 amp breaker will be sufficient for the 110 items, a couple 10 amp breakers for the 110 receptacles running through the building and a 10 or 15 amp for light source. I will more than likely start off using an incandescent light source and eventually go to a florescent lighting, with draws less amps except during start up.

I was thinking of going with 10/3 romex to feed the building, which has a 30 amp rating, should I go to an 8/3 just incase? I may have the light on and possibly the welder at the same time, and may even put another deep freezer out there, but I don't think it would draw more than 10 amps when the compressor kicks on.

[Purebreedcolt]

Awwww hell just throw a line over the power line and run it like that it aught to work. Lol idk

[charles]

Here is my serice pole garbage the ignerant electrician left me to work with. Along with it leaning like the leaning tower pissa










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[charles]

Landon, i think the power company would frawn on stealing power, and i want it to b built farely close code, and not a rats nest like this house is with the wiring


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[Mpbarrs]

What ya could do if you didn't want to replace your service is turn of your 100 amp main and add your shed service to the bottom of your main. It would save time and money . Or the best thing is add ya ....... Tell ya what give me a call 956-515-1916 and I can walk you threw it


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[Mpbarrs]

Sorry. Your on the right track with a two pole 20 or 30 amp off the bottom of your main then from the two pole breaker in your main run to your shed . Stick with an 8/3 for the welder and such . How far away is it from the main ? Every 100 ft you will have a voltage drop. You can get some db (direct burry) wire and add ya a hot tub breaker box on your shed as a disconnect at the shed and there pretty cheap at lows


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[charles]

I was thinking bout just tapping into my main, but i dont want to overload the current 100 amp breaker. I guess i could tap into the top side and put a 50 amp in my building. I need to replace the box to i can add to it as i need, but the pole needs replacing too, but with nobody in my area to help, im trying to correctly half-a$$ it but it be built as close to code as possible. Im lookin at goon the cheap route, bc a person gets what they pay for by cutting corners.

[charles]

From my pole to my building it 25'. I want a 75' extension cord, but will settle for no less than a 50'. I was gonna use 10/3 uf romex for my ext cord, but thinking i should go with an 8/3 nm rubber coated.

[Mpbarrs]

nah man i understand and that service pole does look pretty rough. i was just trying to save ya some time and money. with putting a 30 amp two pole breaker on the bottom of your main your eliminating the chance of it tripping out your main because it will travel to the 30 and trip it before it interfears with 100 amp main. you will still be in code with a independent disconnect at the main and put a disconnect on the shed. if your were going to tap into the top side of the main you would need the power company to turn of the power or pull the meter off , you could do that yourself but the really frown on a customer messing with a meter.

[Mpbarrs]

stick with 8/3 uf cable for the building. like ya said you have a welder,light,grinders etc. you dont wanna be frying bacon real good with that welder and the wire heat up to much

[charles]

The problem with tapping into top or bottom and setting up a dedicated line to ny building is, the current box does not have ANY room for expansion. No matter what, i have to replace the panel box and was thinkn the same bout havin the pwr comp disconnect the meter for a lil bit but i think i can b-cap the main in and slide the old box out n new box in while its still hot. Iv wired stuff hot b4, but nothing over 110, which will grab u n hold on, where more often than not, 220 will knock u off. In high school, we used to take the work lead in 1 hand and the ground in the other and turn the welding machine on n crank up the amps n bet on who would let go first. Not the smartest thing to play with electricity, but it supplemented my fuel n nicotine habbit.

[Mpbarrs]

lol i agree with ya. thats why i like working up top on the high voltage it wont hurt long. when ya say theres no more room in your main theres plenty to add the breaker you would just half to mount it in the box or you could even put ya a post beside your service and come of the main to disconnect of your post and go to your shed

[charles]

Do they even make screw in breakers? Thats the type of breaker i would need, a screw in. There is no breaker mnt rails. The non existant breaker rails is why i want to replace the entire box and make it modern where i can plug n play with new breakers. I found an indoor/outdoor 6 position box for $40, IF it has a place for a 100 amp double pole, that will leave enough room to add 4 more single pole or 2 more double pole breakers

[Mpbarrs]

Yea they make surface mounted breakers and rail mounts you can mount in your existing panel and put breaker on. I have a lot of those rails I use now at the plants I could send ya


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[charles]

Let keep tryin to get ahold of my pops n c what he may have layin around. He was the electrician of the family n i am the mechanic. My pops worked at a foundry as an electrician for nearly 20yrs n has crap layin around all over, but havent been able to get anybody to answer his phone for the last few days. If he aint got what i need, i may take u up on the offer of the rails, but i still need to replace the pole. It was leaning a lot more, but i pushed pole upright enough to drive a fence post in a lil ways, but with only 1 tractor and 2 hands, its hard to do on my own. If it wasnt electrical, id try n attempt it by myself but unemployed n minimal cash flow, i cant afford to hire 1 of them bend over take it electrician companies

[Mpbarrs]

LoL I noticed your lil stud pole helper keeping that gangster lean on the pole. Well man just msg me your address and i will be more than happy to send ya some parts to get ya situated until you get a new service pole. I left the power company in Florida and came to plant work out here so it's no trouble


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