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« on: February 12, 2014, 07:08:37 pm »

They guy that runs that outfit asked to fly on some property that is own by my sons boss and was told no but did any way took out 80% or better of the hog pop the guy is pissed. I told him it was the same as theft real cass act some people need there teeth replaced
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2014, 07:14:10 pm »

Is he gonna press charges?  I'd make him replace the dang hogs if that's legal
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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2014, 07:15:19 pm »

It's not theft.....but he may be able to press charges for poaching.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2014, 07:16:05 pm »

Call the game warden, they have prosecuted this type of case, this year, in the state of Texas.
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2014, 07:20:42 pm »

 if the hogs are on the guys property, then the hogs are the property of the land and he has legal rights to file charges. also have your sons boss contact the fsdo in san Antonio, here is the number 210 308 3300
I know there is something in the FARs about this type of issue. id have look in my far book and see which regulation it is. does he know the heli pilot or atleast the company/owner of the acft?
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2014, 07:43:33 pm »

If he is guilty this may also impact his license to fly.  Aviation rules and regulations are usually tight and pilot are monitored. 
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2014, 08:00:31 pm »

It won't be long until somebody gets shot and killed by somebody shooting out of a Helicopter.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2014, 08:05:56 pm »

Thanks for the info           I don't get it any way no game in it
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2014, 08:09:42 pm »

Or someone shoots at a helicopter!!!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2014, 08:12:32 pm »

That helicopter stuff wouldn't work over this way. Nothin but thickets
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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2014, 08:21:31 pm »

Or someone shoots at a helicopter!!!!!!

No matter why they shot at it, they will be in a federal prison.

It won't be long until somebody gets shot and killed by somebody shooting out of a Helicopter.

As long as they r wearing a turban n visit a mosque, it'll b ok. Justin, u better stay inside when u hear the choopers comin
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2014, 08:54:45 pm »

Or someone shoots at a helicopter!!!!!!

No matter why they shot at it, they will be in a federal prison.

I hear what you are saying.  Wouldn't the burden of proof be on the pilot?  I see a lot of defenses to prove that someone didn't shoot; even if they could determine who possible shot.
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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2014, 09:07:17 pm »

When they dig that slug out of the acft, thats the proof. Now if they just shot at but didnt hit, 9 outa 10 times, the feds will believe the pilot first, investigate n turn the "shooter's" life inside out before the investigation is ovr. 1 of my profesors n flt instructor said  1 time they lost an engine, attempted to make an emergency landing bc the other eng could keep them fully airborne to the first available airport. After they declared an emergency, they started their decent to an open field, the farmer walked n shot at them, they went full power, n got away from the guy, found another field, contacted tower n gave tower the location of the shooting n the guy pled guilty n served time for it. N that was nearly 20yrs ago, the laws r more strict on shooting at acft now, compared to back then. Hell, even shining a pen lazer at an acft is a felony.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2014, 06:52:44 am »

Or someone shoots at a helicopter!!!!!!

No matter why they shot at it, they will be in a federal prison.

It won't be long until somebody gets shot and killed by somebody shooting out of a Helicopter.

As long as they r wearing a turban n visit a mosque, it'll b ok. Justin, u better stay inside when u hear the choopers comin


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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2014, 07:27:44 am »

Judge peel, where are u located. I dont know how far the san antone fsdo stretches, even though they can give him the proper number, it may b faster for your sons boss just to go to this site, its all the fsdo location in texas, but any fsdo location in the US can be found.
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org/field_offices/fsdo/index.cfm?state=TX
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2014, 09:45:54 am »

  hey judge mark called me the other day and said they were flying all over Waxahachie shooting on the yantzy land by the farm . he said they killed a few . I would sure as hell prosecute if it were my land  .
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2014, 10:01:51 am »

He was flying and shooting off ovilla road and I know one more person that they where flying over where they did not have permission thanks for the info Charles
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2014, 10:05:52 am »

No problem. Folks like that make it harder for ANY pilot n thats why my far book has over 1300 pages of regulations in it and gets bigger every yr.
tx just opened up non permit aireal hog hunting n its gettin all screwed up by a$$holes doin crap like that.
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2014, 11:38:44 am »

Aint gonna be long somebody is gonna get shot are killed in a accident are something.  I know more than few people around here that are plenty pissed off a the choppers and are just waiting and laying for them to cross their proptery line.
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