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« on: May 24, 2014, 06:01:25 pm » |
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Haven't been on here in it seems like forever, but thought id ask y'all a question. I run 3 dogs, all cur dogs and they will all do about the same thing (Wind & Catch). Seems like a lot of the time all we end up catching are boars if the dogs are winding from the truck. Of course a boar hog is stronger so i would understand how they are winding boar hogs easier but it seems like pretty much every hog we catch is a boar if the dogs are winding. I was just wondering if this happens to a lot of y'all or just some freak thing that just keeps happening to me and my pack.
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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2014, 09:12:10 pm » |
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if they are winding them , they do smell stronger than sows and shoats . I've seen my old plott gyp bell run plum through the middle of a sounder of sows and shoats and start baying on boar hogs in the tree row .
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Reuben
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2014, 09:59:41 pm » |
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get you a good sow and put your dogs on her...try it a couple of times...
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Training dogs is not about quantity, it's more about timing, the right situations, and proper guidance...After that it's up to the dog...
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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2014, 10:49:31 pm » |
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I have been threw them rounds just like u are talking about were it seems like dog get on nothing but boar hogs. It goes on for awhile and then one day the boar chain breaks and it goes back to normal.
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2014, 11:03:15 pm » |
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I had a yella dog along time ago He would always wind big boars from at least 300 yards or so out
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MakeEmSqueal863
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2014, 10:17:54 am » |
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We catch sows too, but it's unbelievable how many more big boars we catch (Not Complainging about that) but it's unreal. Lol
Thanks for your comments. Went yesterday Morning and my cook dog winded and caught two. Both boars (Imagine That)
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2014, 01:00:39 pm » |
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This time of year here lots of sows are pigging and are hold up tight. Seems we get a string of boars then one day it goes to a sow here and there and bunch's of piglets.
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2014, 10:35:18 pm » |
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Thanks for posting this, because my two Black mouths that I ran have not ever bayed our picked out small pigs they always bayed up or picked out the bigger ones. I picked up these dogs from Ray Cooper Jus hunting dogs, and seen these dogs work on his place many times before I cut loose with my money, he has the biggest damn hogs I've ever seen that he trains these pups on. I have hunted with several dogs that prey on anything that they come across. I really think the way Ray trains them up at an early age is were this comes from. I guess is what I'm saying is I had two of the same dogs your describing and they will be missed not because of death, but I had to sell because of losing my job recently.
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Reuben
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« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2014, 04:48:25 am » |
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back in the 1980's my brother and I trained our pups and dogs on shoats and young sows because they were easier to handle on staged hunts...and our dogs mostly caught sows and smaller hogs and an occasional boar...in the meantime I had a couple of friends that were brothers and they only caught boars with their dogs...they had a training pen and only used big boars to train pups and dogs...My brother and I built a training pen and used big boars for training and we started catching big boars more often and a lot less sows and shoats...
I first made the connection when someone that was a guide told me how he trained his dogs...he advertised meat hunts and trophy hunts...he had a redbone hound that he used for trophy hunts and he started him in the bay pen with a big boar and when the dog was baying good he then used sows and shoats and he shocked the hound off of those hogs...so the redbone only struck and bayed boars...
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MakeEmSqueal863
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2014, 07:32:31 am » |
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Reuben- That's crazy, i have never even heard of that. i couldn't imagine having a dog that would find nothing but big boar hogs and never a sow, must have took a ton of training. My 3 dogs are older and have all been trained in the woods. I'm sure y'all have heard of the law in Florida where you cant train in a pen anymore, therefore most dogs around here learn everything in the woods, that being said it makes it alittle harder to fix the little things a dogs doing wrong (like finding only boars). I'm not complaining that i catch mostly boars, i was just wondering if it happens to others that hunted only wind dogs. I try to Barr everything i catch so catching boars is fine to me.
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that's the way any GOOD cow dog will work as well . they can get rough and nip at all the large cattle they want , but it's hell to pay if they even look hard at a young calf .
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MakeEmSqueal863
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That would make since being that all my dogs are outta cattle stock,
I like them that way, makes them rough and one dog shows. Them do it all kinda dogs.
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Also it is instinct for Cur dogs to key in on the animal that is trying to run off. I bayed a big group earlier this spring and while I was watching, a boar cut out of there with the dogs in tow. Got that boar killed, but meanwhile the other hogs were making a track. My old gyp rolled on the group and had 4-5 of them bayed down a ways.
Some dogs just prefer boars over sows. I suspect it has something to do with the smell.
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Might be that the boars are the first one to turn and fight , others just slip off while the dogs are busy. Have had this happen several times.
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