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« on: March 28, 2008, 02:57:39 pm » |
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How many of you hog hunters loan and barrow each others dogs ?
I made myself a rule many years ago not to loan or barrow dogs, PERIOD.
IF A DOG LEAVES MY YARD HE'S YOURS TO DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT.
IF A DOG COMES TO MY YARD HE'S MINE TO DO WHAT EVER I WANT.
NOT COUNTING BREEDING.
WHEN I GIVE,BUY,SELL, OR RECIEVE A DOG THERE IS NO STRINGS ATTACHED
When I first started,, a man gave me 2 cur dogs and said train them and give him one back and i can keep the other. We went to get them and they were wild as coyoteys, bad wild. I took them and worked with them for about a month. They were hopeless. I called the man that I got them from and told him that I could'nt train these 2 dogs and he said just despose of them. They were both fem. so I found a guy that lived way out,, to just let the dogs live at his barn cause hes there every day and can feed them. Then our plan was to catch them when they came in heat and breed them.About a year later the man that first gave me the dogs called me and said he was gonna work cows in the morning and he needed his dogs that he loaned me. We almost had a killen. So thats why to this day I have strick rules on my dogs.I've only lost one friend over a dog in my time.
I SEE A LOT OF PEOPLE LOANING AND BARROWING EACH OTHERS DOGS NOW - A - DAYS.
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Circle C
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« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2008, 03:07:58 pm » |
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LeeVon, To date I have not loaned out a dog. However there are a handful of people that I would loan a dog to. These people take care of their dogs the way I take care of mine. I have one dog in my barn that I do not consider to be "my" dog. She is an old brindle cur with more hogs under her belt than I can count. I doubt that money could buy her, but my deal with her "owner" is this. Hunt her until you are done with her, or she dies. They want her back when I am through with her. If the day comes that I no longer need her in my pack, she will go back to them alive. If she dies while in my care, her body will be taken back to them, to be buried with their other "great ones" No hard feelings either way. IF A DOG LEAVES MY YARD HE'S YOURS TO DO WHAT EVER YOU WANT.
IF A DOG COMES TO MY YARD HE'S MINE TO DO WHAT EVER I WANT. That policy right there will stop potential BS as long as both parties are aware of that in the beginning.
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Mike
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« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2008, 03:13:20 pm » |
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That's a hard one. I've had several people offer to loan me their dogs or hunt their dogs while they were unable to over the years... i've always said "thank you" but turned them down.
I have a few dogs i'd probably loan out... but there's also a few I don't think I could.
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HIPOCKETS
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« Reply #3 on: March 28, 2008, 03:19:54 pm » |
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I've found that even a second or third string dog can cause trouble . ANOTHER THING THAT I'VE DISCOVERED THAT REALLY GOES GOOD WITH EAST TEXAS HOG DOGGERS IS OREO'S AND A BIG GLASS OF MILK.
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« Reply #4 on: March 28, 2008, 03:21:35 pm » |
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Mike, Don't you remember saying that I could use Blue and Clifford for a year or two. Something about them getting old, and you needed to work some younger dogs? I know Sean has stated that he come with the dogs, so that takes care of our cooking and gardening too!
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« Reply #5 on: March 28, 2008, 03:22:48 pm » |
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Leevon, I am still working on Girl Scout cookies and milk. When they run out, I will go back to oreos myself
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« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2008, 03:27:03 pm » |
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UMMM ,,I LIKE THEM GIRL SCOUT,,,PEANUT BUTTER ONES... 2 COOKIES BETWEEN EACH POST .
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« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2008, 03:50:14 pm » |
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I have loaned out my old brindle male to a good friend of mine a time or two when he needed help. He gave me the dog to start off with and I told him then that if he needed him to come get him. I have also asked him to take young dogs hunting when I was working and unable to. We have been friends since childhood and hunt togather most times I go, that is the only person I would loan a dog to.There are some that I would not let go w/o me though.
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« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2008, 04:36:56 pm » |
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There are just a couple of people I would loan my dogs to because I know they would do the same if I asked them. I've only been hunting dogs for a few years and spent the first couple finding the dogs I have now, Its too hard finding good dogs just to loan them out to anyone.
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« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2008, 04:58:46 pm » |
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Lavon, I got a guy that will let me hunt several thousand acres of coastal marsh, loaded with hogs. They kill 8-10 every time they go out there with guns. My problem is I don't have strike dogs ready to hunt. You got a couple I could take. Oh yeah, they got a butt load of alligators out there too, so I need dogs that will bay gators.
Mark
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« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2008, 05:09:27 pm » |
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MadShark, I sure that purty white dog you got will do just fine.
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« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2008, 06:39:03 pm » |
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There are a few "close" hunting friends of mine that I have loaned out a catch dog when theirs are out of commision. I know they would do the same for me. You must be willing to accept the outcome.
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« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2008, 11:26:18 pm » |
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We share some dogs in our group. Catch dogs and young strike dogs mainly (they need as much time in the woods as possible). Plus it makes them more well rounded. Goes back to that, if the dogs wants to hunt it will hunt no matter the circumstances.
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2008, 12:12:29 pm » |
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NO way NO how! Might as well ask to barrow my wife. My dog are just that my dogs if they go I go. I let a Man Barrow an old gyp one timw to start some puppies and in return he was going to start the last remaining pup out of her for me as I was working 7/12 and did not have the time to do so well to make a long story Short both dogs ened up in Heaven By his hands. Lost on of the best dogs I ever owned and good bloodline that day and worked hard to get. Won't never happen again lesson learned.
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2008, 02:55:48 pm » |
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I will loan you my husbands dog
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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2008, 03:15:20 pm » |
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Great question - it depends on who the borrower or loaner is. Can you trust them? My best friend and hunting buddy and I use each other's dogs alot - sometimes its hard to tell which ones are mine and which ones are his. I've also taken on a few project dogs for other people "hey - would you mind giving X dog a try he needs some time in the woods" I've made a few really good friends in this game that I'd gladly help out, keep their dogs/work their dogs, and even a few who I would trust with my dogs. Not too many, but a few for sure.
I always treat other folks dogs as well as I treat mine, and try to return them in as good a shape or better than you got them. One thing though I always try to be clear about is what I will and won't do. I WILL stich them up, doctor them myself, etc. I WILL take them to the vet if their doctoring needs are beyond my capabilities, but I WON'T promise that, no matter what it will all be alright.
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2008, 03:38:49 pm » |
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Don't gamble what you can't afford to lose. Loaning a dog is a gamble.
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2008, 04:14:56 pm » |
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I will loan you my husbands dog Thats just wrong.
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2008, 04:44:16 pm » |
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I'm very particular about my dogs, just like I am the rest of my stuff for that matter. In the past, I have very sparingly both lent and borrowed but it was with a firm understanding of two things:
1. You will treat my dog(s) as if they were your own, just as I will yours. 2. My (or your) dog(s) may not return home. It's rare, but still a possibility that both people must understand and a risk that must be willing to be taken.
A dog is a dog and I don't care how good they are, they CAN be replaced. A true friendship is way more than that and may not ever be replaced. If there's any question, we better just keep our own stuff and save the friendship.
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