TRASHY PUPS

[The Old Man]

   Night before last took a couple of the pups again on a short trip, didn't strike a hog but did LOTS of "anti" training haha. The trashiest set of pups I have had in a long time, partly they are just doing what instinct tells them, and partly because I haven't had them in enough hogs for them to know what we are hunting. It'll come together before long.

[NLAhunter]

That's good at least they wanting to do something I would lot rather them be trashy than laying there keeping my feet warm

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[shadygrovehawgdawg]

I have no doubt it will come together Clue. I have seen a lot of the early “trashy “ ones end up making good ones. Sounds like they have the want and the try to. That’s half the battle. Good luck with them.

[The Old Man]

Haha they don't ask for any help, will strike and run their own track be desired game or trash.

[t-dog]

Want to us the main ingredient for sure. Without that none of the other tools matter. Mine are trashy too. They had a coon treed for three days up a telephone pole. We had a rain storm the other night and some hail with it. The dogs took cover and the coon made a break for it, lol. I don’t imagine he’ll be back.


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[Cajun]

  I feel your pain Clue but they have to learn. I keep a nutria in my freezer and give the young dogs the treatment before I take them to the marsh. Depending on the time of year I also kill a couple of deer and give those young dogs the treatment with that. I like doing it at home and not during hunting. How many times have we turned dogs loose on deer and shocked them and some wont leave your feet after that.

[t-dog]

Cajun that’s exactly how I like to break mine as well. Your eyes will lie to you sometimes too. I remember pulling up to a particular set of woods once to cast dogs. My old buddy Edgar was here from Florida to hunt with me. As we were approaching the woods, there a handful of doe standing right where I wanted to cast from. We got within about 250-300 yards and they trotted off to the NW of us but went back to grazing in the open pasture. As we got dogs out Edgar asked if they were gonna run those deer. I said ohhh no! They ain’t gonna mess with no deer! They hit the ground and just as fast as she could run, ole yonder was headed straight for those doe. He said are you sure about that. The rest of the dogs followed and I’m yelling get out, get out you sorry bi$$$. She never checked up. She ran within 50 yards of the deer and never looked over her shoulder at them. 100 yards later she was in another set of woods and bayed on hogs right inside that wood line. If I had had a shock collar on her, I would have shocked her for sure because it sure looked like she was gonna make a liar out of me. She was winding those hogs though. She new what she was doing but I didn’t. Her head was up and she was in a sprint. It looked like she had deer on the brain.


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[Reuben]

  I feel your pain Clue but they have to learn. I keep a nutria in my freezer and give the young dogs the treatment before I take them to the marsh. Depending on the time of year I also kill a couple of deer and give those young dogs the treatment with that. I like doing it at home and not during hunting. How many times have we turned dogs loose on deer and shocked them and some wont leave your feet after that.

I agree…super gamey pups that roll out deep will be trashy…the worst trash by far is running deer…after the pups know what a hog is the next thing is breaking them off of deer in the dog pen and in the back yard…usually by 6 months of age…

Shocking pups in the woods can cause setbacks…

[The Old Man]

   These are older than that and I'm breaking them in the woods.   I have at times brought deer in and given pups a treatment or two and never had any deer trouble with them. These particular pups I didn't have that opportunity and they don't get their powder damp from the correction, 2 minutes later they are ready to roll again. I actually started them on bear from rig strikes so they didn't have to turn trash down. They'll straighten up with a few more hogs.
  My older dogs have been telling on them for me. And I watch real close to see that they are checking the pups.     I have seen some real suspicious circumstances before as well, once years ago we'd caught a hog and were leading the dogs back to the truck down a country blacktop and the dogs struck so we turned them loose they entered a long narrow stretch of timber and were gettin out of Dodge, at the far end of the Timber a herd of deer came out, I had my finger on the button ready to strike them down and out came some hogs, part of them caught a shoat and the others went on and bayed a sow.    Fall before last in WV my dogs rigged red hot, we stopped and I dumped them the fellow that was driving said oh no there went two deer, the dogs went right over the deer track and got to the bear track on out about 250 yds and 30 minutes later we walked to a bear tree. Due to numerous such happenings I'm real careful about mashing the button, but I do "some" trash breaking from the truck if pups rig trash I have seen and the old dogs don't rig with them. I shock them for idle barking on the rig as well when I know it isn't game due to the location and the older dogs don't honor them, it doesn't keep them from rigging.

[The Old Man]

t-dog you should have been proud those dogs weren't slick treed haha.

[t-dog]

Lol, you’re right! I guess it’s all about perspective, lol.


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[make-em-squeel]

hard to trash break at first since you want them out there hunting, i usually wait until they have bayed a few hogs then start lighting them up. glad your getting out there!