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« on: December 01, 2009, 05:23:36 pm » |
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So long story short, sat night, went hunting with a friend. his best dog had good energy was running around, about 30 min into the hunt, he got onto one, our two cur dogs were there hog caught, his puppy also joined in at the end.
One of the hogs nuts was hanging out when we got there, so at least one of them got a good mouthfull of blood.
it has been exactly 4 days now, my friends best dog started throwing up yesterday and quickly went downhill till he had to be put down late last night.
my dog is acting normal so far, but i was wondering when is he completly out of the woods, so i can stop worrying at work weather ill have to shoot him when i get home or not.
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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 05:40:05 pm » |
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The incubation period of psudorabies can be as long as two weeks but once symptoms present, a dog only has about 3 days.
Steve
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 05:42:20 pm » |
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I've never heard of pseudorabies, guess I'll google it.
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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 06:26:41 pm » |
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if he starts scratching and shaking his head real bad , youll know . no need in going to the vet .
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2009, 06:48:40 pm » |
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was told 3 of 4 hogs in our area carry ps rabies. my vet said it is a very small window of possible contracting and fairly difficult. however if it is contracted...it is usually fatal.
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2009, 07:10:21 pm » |
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if its contracted it is fatal, period .... or that was my understanding
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2009, 08:10:44 pm » |
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Thats a bad deal........
75% of hogs that carry the disease is a very high rate. Id Have to see the study that statistic came from to beleive it. Then again I dont think I wanna know how many hogs around here carry it.
Waylon
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Monteria
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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2009, 08:19:28 pm » |
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75% of hogs that carry the disease is a very high rate. Id Have to see the study that statistic came from to beleive it. Then again I dont think I wanna know how many hogs around here carry it.
I had 28 pigs tested in an attempt to be TDAC and Sunset compliant for a bay competition that I held. Of those 28 pigs, 21, exactly 75%, came back PSR positive. I may still have the testing report from aTm around somewhere. If I come across it, Ill scan and post it. The good news is that interspecies communication of the disease is rather difficult. Otherwise, we would be loosing dogs constantly. Steve |
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2009, 09:47:05 pm » |
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75% of hogs that carry the disease is a very high rate. Id Have to see the study that statistic came from to beleive it. Then again I dont think I wanna know how many hogs around here carry it.
I had 28 pigs tested in an attempt to be TDAC and Sunset compliant for a bay competition that I held. Of those 28 pigs, 21, exactly 75%, came back PSR positive. I may still have the testing report from aTm around somewhere. If I come across it, Ill scan and post it. The good news is that interspecies communication of the disease is rather difficult. Otherwise, we would be loosing dogs constantly. Steve Pretty sure my numbers came from the vet that pulled the blood on your hogs....if it was done in Betram. From what he said...it was the most dangerous in shoats in a 4-5 day window and the pigs blood had to come in contact with an open wound of the dog. Not 100% sure but something to that nature. |
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« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2009, 09:49:13 pm » |
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JDJP, whose dog was it who caught it?
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« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2009, 10:40:59 pm » |
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Pretty sure my numbers came from the vet that pulled the blood on your hogs....if it was done in Betram. From what he said...it was the most dangerous in shoats in a 4-5 day window and the pigs blood had to come in contact with an open wound of the dog.
Not 100% sure but something to that nature.
Yep, that is where the real world #s came from. It was your friend who pulled the blood samples. We was a hell of a good sport too, it was a rodeo! At that time, I did extensive research on PSR and found a report from the TAHC stating that they estimate 73% of all feral hogs in the state are PSR positive. I can not find that link now but if someone were inclined, google would get you to it eventually. PSR can be transmitted via blood or saliva. however, either method of transmission must be administered into the dogs blood stream in some way. Also, even with direct contamination, it is difficult to transmit from pigs to dogs. Steve |
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2009, 10:44:14 am » |
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I had a friend get a cur pup and brought it to the ranch several years ago to show it its first hog. I had caught a 30 lb or so shoat with my Dixie dog that day putting out hay, just for that pup. I put the shoat in the dog box until that afternoon, right next to Dixie.
My buddy came out with his 4-5 month old pup, I tied three legs of the boar shoat and let him hobble off in the weeds. We turned the pup out and walked him in to where the pig went. We almost tripped over the pig and the pup got excited, started booger barking at it and stuff but wouldn't get too close. I had a pup of my own so I went and got it (we weren't far from the house) and turned my pup out with the other pup. They got more aggessive and started getting in the hogs face and even started biting him some.
I thought we would let then get fired up then I would untie the pig and let them run it and stop it. Well, I untied it....and they ran it..but that pig left the inexperienced pups in the dust. I wanted to cut him and had planned to when the pups stopped him again, but he got away from them. I had Dixie in the truck, turned her out and she caught the pig about 1/4 mile away and it was the same pig......
The point is, my buddys pup came down with Pseudo Rabies within 3 days and had to be put down. Neither of my dogs caught it (luckily) and I had caught the pig twice with Dixie and my pup had been on the same hog. And that was the only hog my buddys pup had ever seen, so we know thats where he caught it.
Its hard to figure out why some dogs will get Pseudo and some won't even after being exposed to the virus. My vet said its not a canine virus so it has to mutate to affect a dog but when it does, there is no hope for the dog.
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Florida cur dogs for almost half a century....now I know I am old!!
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2009, 12:04:31 pm » |
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Scary stuf, I know a guy south Texas who lost 2 young dogos of this horrible desease.
Do you guys see more/hear of more dogs infected than earlier, is it getting worse?
Is there a pattern regarding what dogs gets it, thinking age?
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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2009, 12:46:02 pm » |
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As Cracker stated, after contamination the virus must mutate to effect the dog. Most of the time the dogs immune system kills the virus before it has the chance to mutate. As such, puppies and other dogs with weak or compromised immune systems are definitely at higher risk.
I have not noticed any increase in the frequency or number of K9 cases myself.
Steve
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2009, 01:58:58 pm » |
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Last year it was either 12 or 18 dogs caught it and died from it on a management area, all within a month or so. I was just thinking that is wierd.
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« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2009, 02:05:19 pm » |
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 I ran across this today, it says that according to the TAHC 20% of feral hogs have PR, abd 10% have Brucellosis. |
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