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« on: December 06, 2009, 09:43:03 pm » |
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Never ran a straight CD, but needing one now.. The question I have, I've always heard pitts are a dime a dozen, and they are the way to go.. What do you guys consider a fair price on a finished pitt CD. Might have one in the works, $400 - Kinda thought that was a little high - or is it.
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« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2009, 09:47:05 pm » |
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Im sure there are going to be alot of different answers here. Most i have paid for a pit cd is 250. I have friends that have got dogs from the pound, and also have got some for free, and most of them worked out pretty good. It's just all i what u feel the dog is worth
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« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2009, 09:53:21 pm » |
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Whatever you feel the dog is worth. I personally can't see more than spending $250 to $300 on a catch dog... but that's just the way I look at things. To me, a catch dog is in the "high risk" catagory and I can't justify sinking a lot of money into one.
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« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2009, 10:00:23 pm » |
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Thanks Mike and Jeff, I was thinking the same thing - hard to spend alot on a cd that might catch his last hog everytime you go out. I have a good rcd but he doesn't have enough "lead" in his butt, especially on the hogs we've gotten lately. I'll keep my options open, again thanks
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« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2009, 10:08:31 pm » |
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Dogs that simply will catch are a dime a dozen, but a true catchdog can be a pretty rare find.
Keep in mind that the catchdog is the one you'll trust your well-being to and the one who will put his life between you and a VERY ticked off 300lb boar. Having said that, I suppose it really comes down to what the seller thinks it's worth, and how valuable it is to the buyer.
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« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2009, 10:24:25 pm » |
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agree with bryant. pits that will catch are a dime a dozen. good catch dogs are not quite that plentiful.
the average cd is worth 250 at the most. i could see spending 400 on a really special, really reliable cd.
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2009, 10:36:30 pm » |
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When you put it that way - I totally agree with you guys = CD is the main dog between you and the hog, so it better be a good one. One more question - In your opinion are pitts one of the better CD's.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2009, 10:56:57 pm » |
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One more question - In your opinion are pitts one of the better CD's.
ONE of the better CD's...probably so. THE best CD...well that could start a whole other debate. I will say that pits are probably the most AVAILABLE catchdog. I have my own personal preference, and they're not pits.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2009, 11:30:56 pm » |
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i have had all kinds of cds and i can say that pits are the best for me. i like to have a brush pit short and about 40lbs and biger 70lb one with good leg i mostly use rednose pits
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« Reply #9 on: December 07, 2009, 07:15:43 am » |
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Just because it's a $200 catch doesn't mean it's any less of a dog than a $1000 catch dog right? Just like a strike dog, know what you're buying before you buy it. Price has nothing to do with how good the dog is. And to be honest, i've been very disappointed in some of the big $$$ catch i've seen and hunted with... a lot of those are sold based on breed.
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« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2009, 08:39:23 am » |
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Just because it's a $200 catch doesn't mean it's any less of a dog than a $1000 catch dog right? Just like a strike dog, know what you're buying before you buy it. Price has nothing to do with how good the dog is. And to be honest, i've been very disappointed in some of the big $$$ catch i've seen and hunted with... a lot of those are sold based on breed. Amen to that... and it applies to all hunting dogs.. As for CD's, I Never bought a catchdog in my life. You can get all the bulldog catch dog prospets you want free and just as many of them will make good one's as any you pay $$ for. Fact is most bulldogs will catch, you just may have to go through some and find those that suit ya. No offence to CD breeders tryin to sell CD prospects, but that's just a fact based on what I have experienced and know to be true. A good finished catch dog,, yea might be worth payin a man something for his time, feed and the proven ability of one in the woods, but remember what he is , what his job is and how things can happen in the blink of an eye with a catchdog doing his job.
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« Reply #11 on: December 07, 2009, 09:31:59 am » |
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There are as many different styles of catch dogs as there are bay dogs. I am not much of a pit fan myself, but I ask quit a bit from my catch dogs and use them different than most I guess. I will say this, A dog that is going to do what I want, is not going to be picked up at the pound or cost $200. And "size does matter", as well as raw speed, nose, holding style, and wind.
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« Reply #12 on: December 07, 2009, 09:36:47 am » |
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The average price I have piad for catch dogs is $100 to $150, would probably give $200 for one if I really liked it but no more. The one I hunt now was free. I picked him up and took him hunting the next day. His first hog was about a 200# boar w/ 2 1/2" teeth, sent off the bow of a boat. He has been catching ever since.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2009, 09:50:17 am » |
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Paul, sure they can. I know several folks that breed ab's, dogo's and crosses of the two... from free up to $300 that will do exactly as you say.
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2009, 12:25:55 pm » |
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Like Bryant said a true , well- mannered, catchdog that you can always depend on is not real easy to come by. If I needed a catchdog and knew I could buy one like this I would pay $400 for it... Problem is you probably won't find one like that for $400..
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« Reply #15 on: December 07, 2009, 01:38:31 pm » |
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People that have very good, well mannered catch dogs, ask them would they sell them and for how much.
Mike would you answer this about Clifford?
I thought I would never sell Lex, Victor, or Rock, but some one else owen all but Rock.
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« Reply #16 on: December 07, 2009, 01:46:40 pm » |
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I know of plenty of people that have gotten dogs for free that have turned out to be good dogs that catch good and hard. Plenty of dogs out there that can be gotten if you are in the right place at the right time for next to nothing.
From my point of view- Problem is I am extremely particular about my own catch dog and how I want them to perform and behave, at home, in social situations, on the way to the bay, in the box, and after the catch. The only way I have found to get the particular dog I want is to raise it myself. I have come to a conclusion after handling and using plenty of dogs in several different breeds, that they are not all equal. I set my standards quite a bit different from the majority for my own dog. When I set a price on my dogs, it because I stand behind whet I expect of them, and if they don't do that for the person that gets them, well than I want them back. I have an extreme passion for the dogs I use and produce that goes above and beyond just catching hogs. With that effort and long term comittment I have, I am not producing pups every six months, nor am I selling pups for $100 a peice either. I will also say my dogs are not ment for every individual, that is not my goal.
I also believe that spending $500 on a catch dog that you can use the same dog for 4-7 years is more valuable than starting over with another $100 dog every year or two. Yes there is always that chance each hunt may be the last for a dog, but the odds are better with ceratin dogs that have technique, ability to control a hog and a good handler that is there to back them up. We have retired two really good dogs to age, and have several more that are getting some age to them that have been on the "a" team for several years. It is all personal preference
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« Reply #17 on: December 07, 2009, 01:57:00 pm » |
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People that have very good, well mannered catah dogs, ask them would they sell them and for how much.
Mike would you answer this about Clifford?
I thought I would never sell Lex, Victor, or Rock, but some one else owen all but Rock.
No sir, he'd never be for sale. Besides, he's old, worn out and toothless... wouldn't be worth much these days. I know people pay big $$$ for catch dogs, but that's something that I personally will never do.
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« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2009, 03:51:05 pm » |
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My catch dog was a gift when she was just a puppy. She's a large red nose pit and to me she would be worth at least 350. She catches hard but she's also intelligent which I think is important in a CD. She's rough but not reckless and she's also a good dog around the family. I raised her though so I know I can trust her to hold onto a pig and not let go. I used to hunt with a guy that just picked dogs up for free and tried them out and some would catch but many tended to bite instead of catch so he had a hard time finding a 'good' catch dog. The one he finally did find is one of the best catch dogs I have ever seen but it took him a while to find the dog
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« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2009, 05:10:15 pm » |
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Amen to that... and it applies to all hunting dogs..
As for CD's, I Never bought a catchdog in my life. You can get all the bulldog catch dog prospets you want free and just as many of them will make good one's as any you pay $$ for. Fact is most bulldogs will catch, you just may have to go through some and find those that suit ya. No offence to CD breeders tryin to sell CD prospects, but that's just a fact based on what I have experienced and know to be true. A good finished catch dog,, yea might be worth payin a man something for his time, feed and the proven ability of one in the woods, but remember what he is , what his job is and how things can happen in the blink of an eye with a catchdog doing his job. [/quote]
I agree with skoalbandit...we have never paid for a cd....we find them at the pound. We just make sure they dont have any human agression and then take them huntin and send them in with another cd and they catch on. Some of our best catch dogs were/are the gentlest playful dogs we have ever owned but when turned to a hog its all business. And to say that free dogs dont last as long, we havent ever lost a cd to a hog.
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