Hounds vs Curs

[STEELTRAP]

setexasplott that's my style.

[BarrNinja]

Hah ninja I can think of some of those times when we said that exact thing about having a good hound . But we gotta be careful me being a lacy and cat guy and you being a yella dog with the occasional brindle thrown in .
I love em' all, nothing like the bawl of a hound or the chop of a bayin cur.....now I'm confused, don't know which way to lean towards

HAHA!
Thats right! You are a witness! lol.
I think you should sell all your curs to me and order a half dozen Blue tick pups from Cutter Bay Kennels so I dont have to drive all the way to Florida to see those bad a$$ hounds of his hunt! lol

[HogzgoneWild]

Don't you temp me now!!

[LionandBoarHunter]

lionanboar im not trying to put hounds down i'v just not hunted with the right one.

No hard feeling steal trap just tired of all the poor old hounds getting the blame for makin all the hogs hard to catch and nobody could catch them because they hav been hunted with hounds i personally went to a place that has been run with nothin but silent dogs for about two years and they couldnt catch a hog on the place after a few months running silent dogs. And they called me to bring some of my hound crosses to see if we could catch some hogs and we caught three in just a few hours. i do not have any problems with silent dogs because i own a a few of them and love them i believe if a hog is goin to run he is goin to run and not bay until he gets ready wheather it be a open dog or a silent dog

[BarrNinja]

lionanboar im not trying to put hounds down i'v just not hunted with the right one.

Thats how Im feeling. Im not ready to start shucking my cur dogs by a long shot but all the hounds I have tryed in the past were coon hound bread. Not big game bred. They houndsmen claim there is a little bit of a difference.

[LionandBoarHunter]

theres a huge different between potlickers and good bred hounds

[HogzgoneWild]

All the hounds I had were coon dogs, but I have two dogs, a lacy(lacie loo) and a cat(lilly) that occasionally bark on trail,  (ninja can vouch for that) I got the best of both worlds And by golly we catch a few hogs with them.

[LionandBoarHunter]

yea i have been with a few guys that bad mouth dogs that bark and say they run nothin but silent dogs so i just leave mine in the box and lowin tobe hold there dogs strick a hog and they have a few yip on track and they say ol man they never hav done that before. and i just dump mine out and say mine will fit right in with yours haha

[HogzgoneWild]

  Hah I love it, thats good stuff right there. I bet you had to hold back from rolling on the ground and laughing.
Personally I'll hunt behind any, open, closed don't matter, as long as they are good at what they do they get it done, I could care less how they do it or what happens in between, heck we all expect the same outcome. And I don't mind a lil singing or "I'm over here" while they do it.

[BarrNinja]

theres a huge different between potlickers and good bred hounds

I know it and thats part of the problem here. The same can be said about cur dogs thats for dang sure.
But unlike curs, I have never hunted behind a good bred big game hound.
It could be that some houndsmen have never hunted behind a good hog dog bred cur just the same. You think?

[setexasplott]

i never said i dont have a hound that wont yep after a hog breaks but i do have 1 r 2 u can put ur money on 2 b lookin if u hear them and i can say i have seen quite a few open curr dogs  (and they had no hound in them)and if u look up that breed it will tell about that as well so all u curr fanatics better take a chill pill and relize brindle is better

[HogzgoneWild]

Ok I got the solution... a totally opened mouth brindle cat with a remote on/off bark.

[LionandBoarHunter]

yes sir that is exactly right i hav had some jam up cur dogs that could run with my hounds but they are a few and far between the reason i like the hound cosses is because i hunt almost everyday not every weekend and the curr dogs just cant take it day in and day out i am not talking a few miles every day i am talking 20 30 miles a day i not saying there are not cur dogs that can do this because i have some that can they are just few and far between

[setexasplott]

lion and boar said it i will have to 110% agree a curr just cant keep up with a hound i have a curr in my yard and she makes excilent pups from a hound but out of 20 dogs she is lucky she thinks she is brindle

[BarrNinja]

yes sir that is exactly right i hav had some jam up cur dogs that could run with my hounds but they are a few and far between the reason i like the hound cosses is because i hunt almost everyday not every weekend and the curr dogs just cant take it day in and day out i am not talking a few miles every day i am talking 20 30 miles a day i not saying there are not cur dogs that can do this because i have some that can they are just few and far between

Well I have no ground to stand on to argue this because I dont hunt my curs day in and day out and dont know anyone that does. But just to clarify, are you saying that hounds in general hold up better than curs hunted day in and day out?

[HogzgoneWild]

Ok guys you've got my interest, since I've only delt with coonhounds and not the big game hounds I think one of yall should give me a pup and let me try it and give a personal hands on cur dog hog hunters review


Ninja-what was the time on that last hunt, though not day in and out but usually are long and hard you outta start training our dogs some of that ninja stuff

[Silverton Boar Dogs]

I am on the 1/2 Catahoula 1/2Plott  band wagon. Mine are silent but will bark on a breaking hog. I think that track speed and bottom is what bays hogs, has little to do with being open or silent. The hound crosses do have more bottom then my straight cats thats for sure. I love them and have 4 more 8 month old pups ready to start, can't wait.

[BarrNinja]

Ok guys you've got my interest, since I've only delt with coonhounds and not the big game hounds I think one of yall should give me a pup and let me try it and give a personal hands on cur dog hog hunters review


Ninja-what was the time on that last hunt, though not day in and out but usually are long and hard you outta start training our dogs some of that ninja stuff

LOL. Good luck with that!

Yeah after 11 hours of straight hunting them cur dog sure acted like they were just getting started!
I hunt mine 2 and 3 days straight like that sometimes and they do well but I dont think they could handle that pace day in and day out, every day. I sure wouldnt mind letting them try it though! Just got to win that lottery first!

[ETHHunters]

I go to bed and miss all the good conversation. Boar Ninja you just can not beat a good hound cur cross. You can have the best of both worlds. And when a conversation like this comes up you can laugh and chuckle from both sides. I personally have never had the kind of dog I LIKE with a straight cur. I know there are some good ones. Just not my style. If I hunt with one and I like it well then get ready because I might try to buy him!

[heat]

The thing that I have found is that breeding dogs is not like mixing paint.  White and balck don't allways make grey.  When you mix hounds and curs their is usually not an even mix.  You will get some crosses that are real houndy and then some that are real curry.  If you could just get the long range, nose, and bottom of a hound and them be silent.......everybody would have them.  In my experiences most of them bark.  I just sold a male plott that I had on here because he didn't bark enough to suit me.  He was a Hog Dog and I don't use that term lightly.  In my opinion stopping hogs is alot more about the hogs than the dogs.  We ran one Tuesday for 7 hrs and saw him 3 times, bayed him 5-6 times and never got close enough to send the bulldog.  Took the same dogs Wednesday and caught 5. 
As far as hound just getting gone and not hunting with you....dogs are alot like kids...they are gonna do exactly what you let them.  You can put a handle on a duck if you handle it enough and tri-tronics will fit around its neck.  If i keep a hound over about 2or 3 years may not be able to run out from under a falling tree or smell a gorilla fart but you can bet 2 things it will know its name and better than that, know my voice and respect it.  I have had several hounds that could be called off a running or bayed hog, never need a leash, and handle like a 12 year old boy is suppose to. 
Please don't take this last bit to be offensive....I do not know any of you and am making a blank statement in general........

The problem is that there are very few people that really know dogs.  All they are interested in is putting their hands on a hog.  That is great because it is what we are all after.  I can have a good hunt and never touch a hog.  If I have a young dog progressing good and showing it is making a hand...I have had a good day.  I like listening and watching the dogs, learning about how they work and what they are doing.  If you can understand a dog and let it teach you and you teach it you will both progress alot in the same direction