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« Reply #20 on: January 06, 2010, 06:18:47 pm »

I went and visited with a guy from South LA this past summer (Mike Cauley, Bayou Cajun).  He and his buddy consistently catch hogs.  The hogs in the areas they hunt are heavy on the Russian side.  He has some great Plott hog dogs as indicated by the stacks of photo albums full of hog pics.  They are hunters and don't breed a bunch to sell, but they will occasionally have pups available.  His adult dogs looked good and from the scars its pretty obvious they have the grit.  Some so gritty they are 1-out dogs.  I don't have any of his stuff yet, but its just a matter of time.
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« Reply #21 on: January 06, 2010, 06:33:36 pm »

Mike Cauley raises some of the best dogs around.
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« Reply #22 on: January 06, 2010, 06:41:19 pm »

Alan,

How is the plott pup you got about a year ago working out?
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« Reply #23 on: January 06, 2010, 06:47:07 pm »

One just turned a year,the other is 9 months.Both are doing good,the older is very quiet,the younger is very loud.The younger one is showing to be a better dog.You couldnt ask for a better put together dog than the older pup.The young one is ugly as they come,but is really starting to show me something.
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« Reply #24 on: January 06, 2010, 06:49:24 pm »

 West,
   When you get tired of one of those plotts give me a call....... I remeber that young one, all ears and elbows!
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« Reply #25 on: January 06, 2010, 06:57:04 pm »

Yep,and sharp little teeth.Now she is grown up.She is to long bodied,to short legged,and hair like a German Shepard.But she is a go getter when it comes to critters.Seems like all my best dogs are sorta ugly,and put together wrong. Wink
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« Reply #26 on: January 06, 2010, 07:08:40 pm »

I have had real good sucess with the Alabama hammer line also the sizzlin heat. I had a tiger 2 line gyp that was ruff lot of nose but slow. My buddy has a crocket male and he hunts alot like a cur real  hot nosed.
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« Reply #27 on: January 06, 2010, 07:16:13 pm »

I wish I could remember the lines that my dad used to have. He had 3 of them shipped down here from washington state out of some big game stock.
They hunted more like cur dogs, and even looked more like a cur. Short ears, hot nosed, and real gritty.
I tried digging up some old pictures but no luck yet.
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« Reply #28 on: January 06, 2010, 07:46:22 pm »



This is a pic of my old alabama hammer gyp Brenda was a good hog dog She died last year.
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« Reply #29 on: January 06, 2010, 08:58:43 pm »

I wish I could remember the lines that my dad used to have. He had 3 of them shipped down here from washington state out of some big game stock.
They hunted more like cur dogs, and even looked more like a cur. Short ears, hot nosed, and real gritty.
I tried digging up some old pictures but no luck yet.
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« Reply #30 on: January 07, 2010, 07:39:43 am »

I believe my hunting partner bred the Brenda dog and everything I have comes from close to that same breeding.  They are like al dogs some good some get culled.  Most of them can run.  Man the funniest thing......

If a guy is hunting silent curs and the hog runs for 4 hours they brag about how much bottom the cur dogs have and what a good job they did.

If a guiy is hunting hounds and they run a hog for 4 hours everybody is cussing and fussing saying they should have already stopped the hog and if they were quiet they would have already caught him.

I don't car if he has a monkey riding his back blowing a bugle if he can catch hog.  I actually will get rid of a dog for nor using enough mouth.  Stopping hogs is more about the hogs than the dogs.  I've run hogs for 10 + hours and take the same dogs the next weekend to "fresh" ground where hogs are not pressured and catch 7 or 8.  When ya'll get it all figured out put me on the list for a couple pups....I like to hunt the best I can affordd.  And if I get showed up a couple times I'll switch brands.  Until then I'll keep these Ol plotts around
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« Reply #31 on: January 07, 2010, 09:21:26 am »

Stopping hogs is more about the hogs than the dogs.

Yes sir... them dogs didn't stop him in the blown down, root ball or up against the creek bank... he chooses where to stop. Wink
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« Reply #32 on: January 07, 2010, 10:41:45 am »

I don't care if he has a monkey riding his back blowing a bugle if he can catch hog.

Thats some funny chit right there I don't care who you are !


Its like this some hogs are just not going to bay up very easy using open , silent , semi open are a pure open bawling dog with a monkey riding on his back blowing the hell out of a bugle  and then there are some that will crap there hog britches and shut down right on the spot .  We have stopped big bad 275+ boars with three inch 30/30's hangin out their mouth that you know is bad to the bone in just a few mins and wonder how in the hell that happened and then again we have ran 190+ boars with no tusk hardly for three four hours and get them and then again sometimes never get them .  Some boars big, med are small just won't bay up .  Its all about the hogs in that department.
 
Silent are Open is just a matter of opinion, choice are desire  of each hunter.

Thats my opinion.  I myself don't like open mouth dogs don't like all the rackett but one that  yips are chirps here and there I like it lets me know what is going on and which direction I need to be headed.  Hard hunted hogs you dont think are going to run soon as they hear that pickup drive into the land?  Soon as the four wheeler cranks up you dont think hard hunted hogs are gonna run?  Soon as they smell man are dog you dont think they are going to run and I bet half of them are more can smell ya before they ever hear ya.

There is just as many open dogs out there that catch and stop just as many hogs as a silent are semi silent dogs and again it just all boils down to what the man wants and likes.
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« Reply #33 on: January 07, 2010, 11:23:54 am »

There used to be a guy in DeLeon named Larry Neighbors that had some jam up Plotts. Not sure what line they were but he was a coonhunter.
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« Reply #34 on: January 07, 2010, 11:33:01 am »

I don't care if he has a monkey riding his back blowing a bugle if he can catch hog. 


Hey!  I've seen it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsHgpS2lug8
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« Reply #35 on: January 07, 2010, 12:26:14 pm »

I went and visited with a guy from South LA this past summer (Mike Cauley, Bayou Cajun).  He and his buddy consistently catch hogs.  The hogs in the areas they hunt are heavy on the Russian side.  He has some great Plott hog dogs as indicated by the stacks of photo albums full of hog pics.  They are hunters and don't breed a bunch to sell, but they will occasionally have pups available.  His adult dogs looked good and from the scars its pretty obvious they have the grit.  Some so gritty they are 1-out dogs.  I don't have any of his stuff yet, but its just a matter of time.

I have some of Mike's Bayou Cajun stuff via Trey Love, his hunting partner.  Those two catch some big bad Russians all the time.  I have a bitch with Bayou Cajun top and bottom.  And a big male with Bayou Cajun in him.  Mike used to live across the street from me before I moved to Alaska the second time,about 15 years ago.  Back then he was traveling all over the US to find the best big game plotts.  He brought back blood from Joe Husdson's Timex dog and others, such as (maybe)Crockett, but has bred out the Crockett like catch stuff, does not want the vet bills anymore.  Mike posted on the Parker Cur site that what he has now is Shamrock, Weems and Swampland melded into his Bayou Cajun lines.   He also lays high praise on other plott lines.  Mike is my age, mid-fifties, and always could and still can run off and leave me in the woods.  Trey and Mike have both sold their stock to Norway and Yugoslavia hunters.  Here is a pic of Mike's stuff and what him and Trey do nearly every weekend:



I also have a black female that keeps my chin greasy from all the pork she finds from the Beaucoup lines.  Turning into a top dog. Semi-open and runs silent a lot.  She has some Alabama Hammer and Sizzlin Heat in her.  She is nearly the same stuff Jim Crainer had at one time and used in his cur-crosses.  In the photo she is with her litter sisters, both "blue" plotts.  Her mother and grandfather (Orval Robert's Jeb) were blue plotts from the Beaucoup lines.  She and here sisters are much faster running dogs, as they are 35-40 pounders, than the Bayou Cajun lines, and they are much less grittier.   My big male from Bayou Cajun will go toe-to-toe and get knocked down by a hog, then get right back up and go again.  The Beaucoup females I have are not anything like him.  I don't breed plotts, so go see Orval Roberts in Kelley, LA or Mike Cauley or Trey Love in Folsom, LA as they occasionally have spare pups, but rarely.

The last thing below is a video of the blue plott pups and their sisters at 11 weeks age with the first hog they have seen.









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« Reply #36 on: January 07, 2010, 05:57:35 pm »

I wish I could remember the lines that my dad used to have. He had 3 of them shipped down here from washington state out of some big game stock.
They hunted more like cur dogs, and even looked more like a cur. Short ears, hot nosed, and real gritty.
I tried digging up some old pictures but no luck yet.
Cascade??

Yeah that's it. Said they were real bad about fighting, and all they did was catch though.
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« Reply #37 on: January 07, 2010, 06:04:13 pm »

Cascade sounds right.  I took a bear hunter from Washington state hog hunting with my curs when I lived in California.  He said my main cur hunted wider than his plotts!  He had this strain. od cascade dogs  But his dogs tore up the bears, he had a mess of photos.  They were very good bear dogs.
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« Reply #38 on: January 07, 2010, 06:14:42 pm »

I believe my hunting partner bred the Brenda dog and everything I have comes from close to that same breeding.  They are like al dogs some good some get culled.  Most of them can run.  Man the funniest thing......

If a guy is hunting silent curs and the hog runs for 4 hours they brag about how much bottom the cur dogs have and what a good job they did.

If a guiy is hunting hounds and they run a hog for 4 hours everybody is cussing and fussing saying they should have already stopped the hog and if they were quiet they would have already caught him.

I don't car if he has a monkey riding his back blowing a bugle if he can catch hog.  I actually will get rid of a dog for nor using enough mouth.  Stopping hogs is more about the hogs than the dogs.  I've run hogs for 10 + hours and take the same dogs the next weekend to "fresh" ground where hogs are not pressured and catch 7 or 8.  When ya'll get it all figured out put me on the list for a couple pups....I like to hunt the best I can affordd.  And if I get showed up a couple times I'll switch brands.  Until then I'll keep these Ol plotts around
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« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2010, 10:26:33 am »

TexasHogDog (Jim)

Here are my two line of plotts for contrast.  On the left is a Bayou Cajun male (red brindle) pup and on the right is a grown female Beaucoup line (black w/brindle points).  Big difference in the way they hunt.  The only thing they have in common is bottom and extreme prey drive.

Glad to "meet" you and see your male plott.  He is sort of like Viagra, I don't think I will need it right now, but it is nice to know its there!  Cheesy


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