CD catch placement/position on Hog

[Piglywigly]

Seems to me just about every CD I've seen gets shook on a big boar. I think the ear is about the best place a dog can hang on to and really control a big hog. What do yall think.

[got2catchem]

I really think the legs is the best place, it keeps the hogs from running....

[uglydog]

I have seen only a couple through many years that could actually control a big hog from a catch on the jowl. I agree that I prefer the leveridge a dog can get from the ear and pull down, tilting the hogs head to the side is the best control method IMO. I like even better when a catchdog will get shoulder to shoulder with the hog and an ear in the mouth and pull the hog around in circles.
I have seen a couple dogs that catch on the end of the nose that bite down so hard the the hog will mostly submit, but seen more dogs get hurt from that position, that makes me want to stay away from those, pluse it usually ruins the hog if you want to keep your hogs tied and live.

[Piglywigly]

I'll have to agree with uglydog 100%! shoulder to shoulder with a big boar and locked on ear is about the best and safest place a dog can get. A lot of control can be obtained from that position too.

[coyote hunter]

i agree with both of u

[Texas_Cur]

Shoulder to shoulder is a good spot, but I have seen a couple big hogs take off with the dog still on the ear from that position.  I can see where catching the leg would keep the hog from running, but it would also expose the dog to more damage than the ear would.

Personally I think for the best control, it would have to be a tall catchdog caught on the ear or back of the head with its chest almost touching the ground and at a 90* angle from the hog.  I have seen one dog do this and it had the hog's head so torqued to the side that the hog couldn't do anything.  I am not saying this is the safest place, but from my limited experience it is the most control I have seen a dog have on a big hog.

[ktchemwcurs]

Depending on dogs type. IMO-I have had BD's that yust hit and set back on what ever hog body part that comes to them first. The gritty curs(like I have ) They will bay till you get there  and then one will distract and hit him in one ear while the other turns and hits him in the other ear. Then they will do just what uglydog said, go shoulder to shoulder and everytime the hog throws his head to one side the other pulls the oposite and rolls right next to the hog. They try and stay side by side instead of in front where the tefys are. This is just my opinion.

[got2catchem]

I really think the legs is the best place, it keeps the hogs from running....

Let me clarify...Caught on the leg, while standing on the hogs back...

[Texas_Cur]

I really think the legs is the best place, it keeps the hogs from running....

Let me clarify...Caught on the leg, while standing on the hogs back...

You mean after it gives the hog a Judo throw right   

[BOSS HOGG]

Shoulder to shoulder would seem to be the safest catch, i have a short bulldog that will grab under the hogs throat everytime and gets great control and fairly safe position. I have a taller pit that grabs the ear but i wouldnt want him going for the throat because he is so tall.

[Noah]

All ear dogs are not created equal... it's all in the grip...

I've owned both, a straight ear dog that only grabs ear... skin and cartiledge swinging in the wind... no real leverage/control of a hog... and if that ear decides to tear loose... uh ohh....

Then you've got the "skull grip" dog... my personal favorite... dog may grab ear initially, but re-grips until he's got the lower teeth anchored in the ear hole, and the uppers on/over the point of skull.  Both my curs and CD have perfected this grip and it's hell on hogs   No thrashing, no raking dogs off, that grip tends to put any hog on lock down, a very good pressure point hold...  only problem is they tend to "pop the top" on alot of 100 and under hogs... but I never worry about going in on a big one.... he ain't going nowhere 

I've seen some jam up nose dogs, and that sure is another good pressure point for a big hog... but the dogs do tend to get their mouth tore up in the process, which I don't like.

[robbiew2208]

it all depends on the hog. i agree catch on the ear shoulder to shoulder, but ive got a little male dog that catches on the end of the noseor the eye lid [ yes the eye lid]. some buddies of mine caught a big barr with 1 little bulldog that i gave him that weighs 35 lbs. hogs are all different some are just bigger bad a$$es than others

[hoghunterdfw]

interesting thread. i generally prefer an ear dog as everyone else has said shoulder to shoulder it is the safest for the dog.  but I have a young female dogo who is starting to really catch hard on the snout bridge of the nose area. I have tried to show her the ear but she completely ignores it and goes right back to the snout. is it possible to turn her into an ear dog now or do yall think its a genetics thing? like would snout CD bred to snout CD equal more likely snout CD pups? or do you think its learned behavior?

[cowcountryhogdogger]

I have had some cd's that caught strictly ear and they seem to be in a safer spot for the most part than if they chose somewhere else to catch.  Currently I have a pit that will only catch bridge of the nose between the snout and eyes.  I've tried to break him from it several times and he always goes back to the same place.  He can handle himself on most pigs but a big pig, especially a big boar, will toss him every now and then.  He doesn't lose his grasp, but will lose his power in the front end.  It has never affected him and he hasn't been cut other than just skin since I've owned him.  I would rather him catch ear, but oh well, atleast I don't have to worry about him trying to leg a pig.

[Piglywigly]

An ear dog, throat, snout, etc... Those are all great and everything, but I have a "nutt" dog!

Yes, you heard right, he gets the ol' nutt sack every time! Once he gets hold, he drops low and goes to twisting. You should see the look on the poor hogs face.

Ok ok.... I couldn't help myself! 

[southsidehunter]

On the snout  , I feel with a good size dog fully vested, every dog is safe. Thats as long as he gets there first to take the first whacks then get a good grip. They have good control of the pig that way, but I only need one good catch dog that catches on the snout. jmo

[hogslayer6]

on the ear and ear only a jowl catch is hard to hold on to, because of the flex in the flesh( to much fat) a snout catch is more dagerous than people think both for you the dog and the pig( which if you never tie isnt a great big deal at all b/c hes about to die anyway) and a leg catch is completly useless hogs can still turn to fast and on a bad one your dog is dead before you get there. personally i belive the best way is to either have two cds or one cd and baydogs that will catch the head w/ the cd (rather 2 cds cause i dont like seein dogs get poked and bled out specially good strike dogs) ive seen really large hogs 350+ not be able to move w/ 2 cds on them at all and not even think of cuttin a dog when them two dogs are tryin to rip his head in two but they cant catch on the edge of the ear they have to get down on it....just my thoughts

[Jesabell]

i agree with hogslayer. ear and ear only. my good friends had a catch dog that would catch on the snout and  every time we would catch a pig, he would end up gettin cut. if you get on a good enough hog, no matter where your dog catches, most likely he's going to get cut. someone earlier posted it depends on the dog and i agree because the bigger the jaw and body of a catch dog, the easier it is for him to hang on. thats just speaking from experience.

[southsidehunter]

on the ear and ear only a jowl catch is hard to hold on to, because of the flex in the flesh( to much fat) a snout catch is more dagerous than people think both for you the dog and the pig( which if you never tie isnt a great big deal at all b/c hes about to die anyway) and a leg catch is completly useless hogs can still turn to fast and on a bad one your dog is dead before you get there. personally i belive the best way is to either have two cds or one cd and baydogs that will catch the head w/ the cd (rather 2 cds cause i dont like seein dogs get poked and bled out specially good strike dogs) ive seen really large hogs 350+ not be able to move w/ 2 cds on them at all and not even think of cuttin a dog when them two dogs are tryin to rip his head in two but they cant catch on the edge of the ear they have to get down on it....just my thoughts

What I was meaning was the other dogs would have a better chance of not getting cut with the dog on the snout. Also fully vested, I really don't care for the hogs snout either, if i did i wouldn't run catch dogs

[southsidehunter]

Every situation is different so all this talk is just conversation so we can all have fun cause we are bored at work. Some hogs 150 lbs can put u out of commission some 200+ hogs with 3 inch teeth not put a scratch on a dog. So its just opinions, there isn't no hog hunting manual that says how its supposed to be, even when u got people on here that think its the best way, its all opinions.