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« Reply #20 on: February 25, 2010, 08:36:03 pm »

Drue, I remember Sally... hope you got a bunch pups out of her before your momma got to her. Grin

I've hunted with several pointer/cur crosses. Most of them were wound up, real hyper dogs and burned the woods up hunting.
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« Reply #21 on: February 25, 2010, 08:39:33 pm »

Noah has three cur/EP crosses that I have hunted with. They aren't long range dogs but hustle, seem to have decent noses, are gritty (too gritty for Noah at times I think!) and the thing I liked most about them is, they seem to be more heat tolerant than my straight cur dogs. I wouldn't mind breeding Monkey to a EP or EP/cur cross and try to put some of that heat tolerance in my dogs.
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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2010, 09:05:40 pm »

My Crow dog is a 1/4 EP 3/4 BMC and I am pleased with him.  He has his faults but for the most part I like him.  I always laugh when I hear about these rough bird dog crosses, he is the one dog you can count on to not lay a tooth on a hog even when the catch dog gets there, been that way his whole life.




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« Reply #23 on: February 25, 2010, 10:29:17 pm »

In the top right corner of every post  Mrmud there is the quote button . You just click it and it will start off a response adn then if you would like to multi quote you just scroll down through the other responses and click the quote button of whatever other posts you would like to quote. Woowee how many times did I just say quote?  laugh
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« Reply #24 on: February 25, 2010, 10:45:01 pm »

If you type after the [/quote] you can type outside of the quote box.
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« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2010, 08:17:46 am »


Our female, Sweetpea




the dog on the left is our male, Red.
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« Reply #26 on: February 27, 2010, 12:13:16 am »

Seems like there are dogs in every litter that just wont hunt. Undecided  Tnhillbilly, was the redtick that you bred an outstanding hog dog? And the EP a hunting dog as well?  I do believe that prey drive has been bred out of many dogs, so it is important to breed two outstanding hunting dogs to increase the chances that the offspring will inherit the parents prey drive. But it is still pretty much a crap shoot.
The red tick was a good hog and bear dog, above average, the EP however was nothing more than a yard dog that was supposed to be top of the line blood lines out of miss. but you know how that goes Undecided
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« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2010, 11:35:21 am »

I wonder why some of the EP/Cur crosses come black in color? I don't recall ever seeing a black EP, but when an EP is bred to a yellow or red cur a percentage of the pups will come black....one black one was posted on this thread, Noah has a black one and a buddy of mine in S. Fla has some GSP/Curs that are black too........wonder what it is in crossing the birddogs and curs that makes them come black??
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« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2010, 11:41:43 am »

I wonder why some of the EP/Cur crosses come black in color? I don't recall ever seeing a black EP, but when an EP is bred to a yellow or red cur a percentage of the pups will come black....one black one was posted on this thread, Noah has a black one and a buddy of mine in S. Fla has some GSP/Curs that are black too........wonder what it is in crossing the birddogs and curs that makes them come black??

Yeah, I have noticed that too Mark.
One of my friends picked up a couple of cur/ep from Jake Kibby and they were all black.
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« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2010, 02:07:07 pm »

Yea i bought me a English pointer to make a cross. Just waiting on her to cycle. May be making a mistake cause she want bay a hog. She is a hunting machine when it comes to bird hunting though. I asked the guy i got her from and he told me the difference between EP and GSP is the EP's have long tails and the GSP's are bobbed.
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« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2010, 02:37:55 pm »

my brother picked up a couple of 1/2 ep 1/2stag to breed to our cur,catahoula ,lacy,hound cross dogs hope it works there 5 months old and the lady said they was 3miles from the house the other day
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« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2010, 03:12:43 pm »

My EP came to me from a more or less pet home but had the training for birds, anyway after killing the pet ducks she was passed on. I liked the gyp alot, She would strike and hunt until her feet would bleed not just wear the pads off, and then she woul still hunt more but trying to walk on the sides of her feet.
She was not too gritty for me, matter as fact she won money in a baying competition in Nixon one time I took her. She would tree a squiorrel here at the house and trashed on them a few times in the woods. She was extremely easily handling dog. I bred her to my favorite Uglydog once, and yes they produced several blacks and now from those pups they will also produce several blacks in the litter. She even pointe pigs in brush for me, like they were quail.

Here is the thing about this one dog, and only pure bred EP I have ever owned. Her bones were pettite and brittle, she had her ribs broken several times by hogs. I believe that to be because they were bred to hold a point rather than bay and work like a stock dog does. My theory is many times she would be in front of the hogs she had bayed and rather than move her feet and get out of the way when the hogs charged her, she would get nailed right in the chest, thats why alot of broken ribs.
Her pups hustle like EP but bay like a cur dog. She had plenty of heart and no quit to her, and if I had another like her, I would put her up for breeding, but thats hindsight, too late now.
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