We threw in the white flag last night.

[Piglywigly]

Got of to a good start, caught a smaller boar about 90 lbs. Then, we got on a lot of hogs and just couldn't get one caught. Let me tell you why. I had 3 good strike dogs on the ground. The hogs kept running and finally they singled one out. They would only bay for a couple of minutes. I sent a smaller running CD in to try and end it. The pig out manuvered him. So then I sent my main CD in to help. He's big and controls every catch. Still, the pig is staying just far enough in the thick brush not to be caught. At one point I remembered looking at my map screen on the GPS thinking, "wow, I would hate to be that pig out there!" He just doesn't realize how lucky he was to make it out of that last night. All it would have taken is one wrong move and one of my pitts would have sealed the deal. Due to how freaking cold it was and the fact this had been going on for hours and we had already caught a hog, I called my dogs out. Last night made me realize, how bAd I hate to run a hog for hours. I'm fixing to get rid of these pitts. I'm never gonna hunt a slow CD again. From here on out, it's a Bullyxdane or ridgebackxdogo or something that can out run a horse. I'm done!!!

[hog tied]

I run Pits for Cd's and they do fine. Sounds to me like you need some better bay dogs, maybe a nut dog. Finding the hog is only half  the battle, they gotta keep em bayed so the catch dogs can do their job.

[T-Bob Parker]

X2 there's no reason the Pitts shouldn't have caught if the hogs were legitimately stopped

OR your dogs may have been trashing on something, did you SEE a pig before you let the cds go?

[uglydog]

Alot too assume!
If it was in Old Rosehedges then there is no reason to blame anything, sometimes that is just the nature of the beast, big dog, small dog, slow dog, fast dog, loose dog, tight, it does not matter.

Then again, it may be a problem can't make assumptions.

[mzhoghunter]

ID TRY A GRITTY STRIKE DOG ONE THAT USES HIS TEETH NOT JUST HIS BARK 

[goose]

a pitt being being to slow is the last thing we have ever had problems with...you have to look at size factor and big bulky dog is just not going to be as fast and agile as wat i like to call pocket rockets...maybe try sum smaller built dogs if bigger built dogs is what your running...or have you ever ever considered crossing a pit with a july hound or greyhound...their smaller framed than a dane and have alot more bottom...jmo of course

[Piglywigly]

It's not the bay dogs! It's the brush, the slow pitts, these hogs! I've caught a lot here, but if they don't bay, it's not gonna happen. If you don't have some leg on the ground, it's not gonna happen. Hunting at night here is harder for a dog too! But, when we go in the day, we're on the money. I hate a dog that will put teeth on a hog, if he's gonna bite the hog, he better plan on catching him. Or, the hog better be running! I don't like a mouthy bay dog. If you bite, you get culled in my yard.

[ETHHunters]

If you have had good luck with the dogs you have then I wouldnt try anything new. Nobody catches every hog they get on I dont care what kind of dogs they run. Sometimes the hogs win.

[Piglywigly]

Exactly, I dont care who thinks they have super dogs, some hogs will not be caught. Let's think logically here for a few seconds! Look, I know that's like really hard for some of you close-minded nay Sayers!! Some hogs are faster than others, WAY FASTER! Now, with that in mind, I want you to vision what most peopes pitts, AB's, etc. Most are short for one, and for two, they are big and bully which makes them great for hogs that are standing still. If you get a fast hog, that Pitt is gonna get out ran. How you gonna catch a hog if you don't have a dog that can keep up with the hog or out run that hog. So, you can have a pack of gritty cur dogs all day long, but they bite that one hog who's got the heart of a lion, and the speed of a deer, you gonna get burned. A fast, leggy, running catch dog that can run down a hog like a cheeta, will catch more of those hogs. If you dissagree with that, the next 200lb runner we catch out here in the marsh, I'll bring it to an open field and you can turn you big bulky Pitt loose on it and if he doesn't stop him in the first 2 miles, you own me $500 dollars.

[Scott]

For the most part, if it's over 60 pounds...it's not a real Pit. From your comments, it doesn't seem as if you've seen too many performance ABs either.

The simple fact of the matter is that all dogs (doesn't matter the breed, build, etc.) can and do get smoked...

[Piglywigly]

NoT according to what's said above, it's my bay dogs apparently!
On a serious note, have you ever saw a working AB keep up with a horse?
I've seen horses get flat out spanked by some running hogs!

[ETHHunters]

There are very few dogs if any that can run as fast as a hog in a flat out foot race. Add a thicket to that situation and it is just about imppossible.

[Piglywigly]

What about a greyhound x ridgeback! I'm fixing to do a crazy cross.

[hog tied]

Sounds like you've got it all figured out.You said in your own post that if they dont bay it wont happen.If the hog is bayed and bayed right, you could send a two legged dog in to catch.Point being, if that hog is bayed solid, your CD will have a shot.Im not trying to pick on your bay dogs, but if the hog isnt bayed and your not using running CD'S, it wont happen.

[Piglywigly]

You tell me how your gonna bay a hog in stuff a hog is having problems moving in? The poor dogs can't get a spot open enough to bay. When the hog comes out, he'll run and do a big circle back to the brush. We catch hogs all the time, but never in the thick brush. We got to flush them out with a big pack of dogs. It's literally like a chess game.

[hog tied]

I guess I would have to ask you what difference the breed of your CD has to do with catching the hog if the hog itself cant get through the thickets. Im going to make an assumption and guess that you havent been hog hunting long. My advice to you would be to listen to those of us who have and use the info to make your pack and hunts better.

[Texas_Cur]

I have to agree with some of the others.  It sounds like your bay dogs couldn't shut it down, which happens to everybody.

When I get out run by a hog I blame the bay dogs, not the catch dogs.

[Piglywigly]

I've never caught a hog. My bay dogs suck. The end.

[hog tied]

Im glad you see the light. Why ask for advice when you dont want it.

[Piglywigly]

Who asked for advice? This was a vent topic for me. It doesn't matter though, I'll agree w/ you, my bay dogs suck. The end.