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« on: March 01, 2010, 06:25:03 pm »

Okay, I had no idea there were so many folks out there running sighthound crosses. Please indulge me with some photos. Are you running them as rcd, lead ins, or are they out hunting with the pack?

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« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2010, 06:56:21 pm »

here's Ricky Bobby (i just wanna go fast Grin)  he's a staghound x dogo/ab. 28.5" at the shoulder and 94lbs.  Cody Weiser actually bred this dog, Doe x Cotton (Amerigo).  He's seen a few hogs but hasn't quite turned on yet at 12months old.  these crosses mature a lot slower than most common hogdog breeds.  You can tell from looking at him he threw mostly to the staghound side, he just got some added bone and a little broader head and muzzle.  Still FAST though.



and here's MY Clifford, pure great dane 33" to shoulder and 123lbs.  He's actually a rescue dog that I picked up.  He's seen a few hogs and he's catching and running em down but it's been all staged.  Chompin at the bit to get him in a hunting situation.  He's gonna be used as a Ozzie style hunting dog.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2010, 07:10:00 pm »

I run my dogs as a pack and am walk hunting and train them to range out to 200 yards lookin for sign and then checkin in and looping back out again. I have a few pics up of them already but heres a few more.
Jamba-Greyhound/Weimeraner

Primo- Malinois/Greyhound           

Marley- Whippet/Bull  (I believe a lil pointer)


Like I said I don't have near the qulity of camera as you guys but here is a video: My dogs are the 2 on the rear with Yellow cut collars on
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydcp79y5OVc
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« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2010, 07:15:18 pm »

Jordan, cotton is a big dog, and doe is no slouch either. It will be interesting seeing what that cross ends up being at full maturity.

 I think you missed the fact that clifford is supposed to be a big RED dog, not a big BLACK dog  angel


Big a, I see why you like that bullwhippet! What an awesome looking dog. The others are way nice as well. Are sighthound crosses all you run, and are each of those different crosses gritty as hell?
They look great.
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« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2010, 07:18:00 pm »

Mandi,  

I'll let you explain that one to my 4 year old daughter.....lmao  she names almost all of the dogs I've got.  I don't know if you've seen Buck (Doe's brother) but Josh White used to have him and he says they're built almost identical minus the little heavier bone structure.  I'm just waiting for when the switch finally flips in that dog.
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« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2010, 07:20:05 pm »

Primo has found about 20 hogs since I've had him and so far have only seen him bay 1 barr that was a big boy!  laugh Other then that he likes the rearend and Jamba is the more experienced of the 2 and is a stay bakc and bark until the rest fo the crew show up but he does have the ability to spin around alot of running hogs and usually is the one that will
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« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2010, 08:42:25 pm »

How do the sighthounds do in rough country? Where I hunt it's mostly steep hills and hollers. I've thought about using sighthounds but didn't know how they would work out.
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« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2010, 08:47:33 pm »

are these dogs the one like blooming brothers use from australia..
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« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2010, 09:08:45 pm »

to an extent i guess you could say yes.  Ozzies use a lot of crosses of various breeds to get what they want.  this is the starting point for me personally.  i've got a finished product in my mind and they're gonna be used to get there depending on how well they come into their own.  these dogs won't just hunt off of "sight", they'll wind and work scent just like any other dog.  most crosses like this just catch and don't bay or they'll bay til you get there and then catch when they see you or you command them to catch.
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« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2010, 09:31:44 pm »

The only thing I'm interested in breeding my purebred greyhound to is another purebred greyhound. I like the idea of the greyhound pits, but I enjoy what my purebred is. I love sending her to a hog across a 650 yard wide open pasture. If you have never seen one sprint like that in a real hunting situation, you just can't appreciate how fast they are. The track dogs don't seem as awesome to me after seeing the speed in a hunting situation. She is all catch on 100 to 150 lb pigs. A 200 with an attitude will back her up to bay, and that is fine by me. She is also trashy as hell, but it is usually just killing small furries and coons - not barking at furries.

Believe it or not, we have had to choke her off on occasion. You wouldn't think that needle nose would have a bite, but she does have some power.

Again, I don't have a breeding plan - I have a novelty and a pet. Not to mention, I can take my hog dog out in public and pretend to be hifalutin. When we are among mixed company, she is a "big game hound" which I use to course wild boar. When you put it like that, people are generally accepting.... would you care for crumpets with your tea?

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« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2010, 09:50:24 pm »

i'll tell you what the first time i saw Josh's dog chasing down a hog that we literally clocked going like 40mph (it was running side by side with the truck)  it was crazy.  i've never seen a hog run that far in the wide open like that.  and then to see the dog close in on it was awesome.
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« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2010, 10:12:20 pm »

It is too cool to watch these fast dogs, isn't it? I wish we had more wide open areas to run them. Foxy spends 99% of the time on the mule waiting for the situation to be right to use her. Lately I have had more occiasion to use her though. The last time I had her in the woods I used her on three hogs and a shoat.

She is down right now with two injuries - she got a poke in the eye by a rose hedge a few weeks ago that sent her to the vet. It is healing but it is slow going. While she has been getting over the eye issue, she had a run in with one of my aussies. They don't like it when she goes blasting by. One reached out to nip her when she was breezing past and it ended up making a bad skin cut on her shoulder. That think skin is a problem! Are the crosses any thicker skinned?

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« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2010, 10:24:59 pm »

So far I haven't seen to many "scratches" but Primo did take a 2 1/2" tusk to the chest that punctured deep enough to put a Qtip swab to swab in!  Shocked
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« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2010, 10:27:17 pm »

BigA how does Marley work for ya?  I have a 3 month old pitXwhippet cross female right now that I have high hopes for.  Know it partly depends on parents in breeding but how well does this cross work?
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« Reply #14 on: March 01, 2010, 10:40:35 pm »

For me she has done good but I started her at 8 months old and she really didn't constantly go out with the rest of the pack until she was a year and a half and still doesn't use her nose to track a pig but will track every bird that she comes across!  laugh Since she has started going out with the rest of the pack she has been able to stop quite a few pigs on her own but once stopped she lacks the size to hold one and does have a very random bite as she will just bite whatever she can! Kinda like a heeler when they nip but from a bull!  laugh The thing I like best about her is her ability to move and juke is amazing! I have never seen a dog move like she can and have been trying to get it on video for quite awhile but haven't yet! My uncle actually hates to hunt with her because of her style, It is actually like she wants the pig to run so she can chase it again! She works for me when I run just my dogs as I know the other 2-3 are right behind.
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« Reply #15 on: March 01, 2010, 10:45:50 pm »

Well that sure helps me out.  I had absolutely no idea what to possibly expect.  I was looking to put more leg and speed on my cds and possibly make a cross over my dogoXdane dog provided she works out and everything goes well.  Right now she is really fast, or atleast I think so, for a little puppy and I really enjoy watching how she moves playing with the other dogs.  Thanks for the insight on this cross.  If she turns out like yours has I think I will be ok.  Guess I'll just have to wait and see  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: March 01, 2010, 10:55:33 pm »

I just realized that no one responded to the question about rough country. My dog goes too fast for me to take her anywhere there are cliffs. I could see her sailing off a cliff because she didn't get stopped. Think of her as a topfuel dragster. She wouldn't be effective having to navigate cliffs and ravines like a rock crawler.

The other guys who run crosses will have to answer for them. I would think they would be better suited for that country. They do run them on yotes, but I think that is a flat land sport too though.
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« Reply #17 on: March 01, 2010, 11:42:20 pm »

As far as Cliffs go I shutter at the thought!  laugh Here on the Big Island we don't have the steep valleys and cliffs in our forests like the other outer islands but if you go near the ocean there are a few areas where the pigs will just run off the end and the dogs will follow but I've seen and heard of all kinds of breeds going over so I think if I planned to run them down there I would be sure to show them the cliffs and then still plan on one getting to engaged and going over and having to go down adn bring it back up! Bring rope!!
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« Reply #18 on: March 02, 2010, 08:46:18 am »

Maybe Brendan can chime in on this but I know the guys in Australia hunt mountains and all kinds of varying terrain with these same build type dogs and they do very well.  I know my dane runs up and down and doesn't slow down at all running the steep creek banks at my house.  where my dogoxab (24") which isn't short by any means has a lot harder time.
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