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Kyle0329
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« on: March 11, 2010, 05:59:52 pm »

Anybody eles have abunch of runners on there lease seems like every hog i have been on this year have ran him for a hour or two before he finaly stops and bays, ran one for three hours this mornig and never shut him down
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« Reply #1 on: March 11, 2010, 06:35:39 pm »

get ready for more of it. more hog hunters= more running hogs.just have to have some dogs tough enough to hang with em
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« Reply #2 on: March 11, 2010, 06:44:25 pm »

join the crowd
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« Reply #3 on: March 11, 2010, 09:01:11 pm »

Nope, I started just turning out one bay dog and theyve been baying up real nice Grin
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2010, 09:27:54 pm »

thats all i run is one bay dog and a 7 month old puppy both dog are rough sink teeth in a hog to get it stoped the hog this morn kept makin circles in about a 300 acre block of woods watched him cross the road in the same spot twice each time the dogs were bout 10 min behind him guess iam just going to have to start shooting them like deer when they cross the road
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« Reply #5 on: March 11, 2010, 10:20:12 pm »

I've tried it all, loose dogs, rough dogs, 1-2 dogs only, etc. We catch a lot of pigs, but they are surely getting faster and smarter. They don't take a bay like they did 3 years ago or before. I think the solution is simple. Less bay dogs and more RCD's. The slow hogs are being caught, and the faster, smarter hogs are breeding out the dumb, slower hogs. I knew it was coming and it's gonna get worse. Stagg, ridgebacks, greyhound crosses, are gonna become the future for a better hunt.
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« Reply #6 on: March 11, 2010, 10:29:58 pm »

It's actually funny to hear you say that PiglyWigly! I was told the same thing by a few guys that I hunt with here and by a few guys that live on the mainland that eventually the guys who live by the Linebred breeds will "see the light" and be forced to cross more grit and speed into their lines! Only time will tell I guess!! We still have a few guys who pay big $ to bring in pure lines from Texas and Louisianna and still catch pigs so I am not sure exactly how true this statement is but think it would be a great thing to document and look into!
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« Reply #7 on: March 11, 2010, 10:33:31 pm »

The days of baying a group of hogs and marking the ones u want are just about over fellers.  I have just about come to the conclusion,, that a man is gonna need dogs that are simply put ROUGH. And with that I mean dont want to bay, just reach and grab and hold.  But along with that comes DEAD dogs or plenty of money at the vet.  But you got to ask your self this Question:  Do you want to find hogs and run em, or do you want to find hogs and catch em.
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« Reply #8 on: March 11, 2010, 10:50:29 pm »

I believe there are plenty of hogs out their that your gonna have to run to catch no matter what kind of dogs you have. I personally like the challenge of a runner. The quick catches are work and the runners are sport for me and my dogs. Aint nothing like a dog with all that bottom to put it on them race horse hogs in my book.
BigAinaBuilt. The guys line breeding hog dogs saw the light a long long time ago! Thats why they have consistently kept exceptional dogs for the past 20, 30, and 40 years. Thay are always breeding to improve their blood and not just maintaining it.  Wink
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« Reply #9 on: March 11, 2010, 11:03:19 pm »

i believe the dogs will adapt just as the hogs have im not the smartest and don't claim or will never claim to be but i have been hearin about runners for years now and don't think people are realizin that the dogs are evolving to because there will always be hogs you won't stop unless you put a bullet in his head its just that way anyone who claims their dogs can catch anything haven't been huntin to long this is just my opinion
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« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2010, 11:12:09 pm »

dont get me wrong i love a good challange  and love nothing more than to see my dogs run a hog for two or three hours then stop it and bay it but it just seem here lately these hogs have no quit in  them but iam glad to see iam not the only one whos dogs are getting burnt
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« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2010, 11:16:59 pm »

my  freezer  has  plenty  of  meat  in it ..... i  like  the hunt ...  i like  findinga   giid  track  and  trying  to  figure  out  where  he  lays ........i  like  to  put a  dog  on  old  tracks  or  sign a nd  set  back  and  watch  him  try  and  work  it  up ...... if  i  get  out  run  oh  well .....  i  have  run  hogs  with  ruff  dogs and  dogs  not  ruff ......how  much  ruffer  can  you get  when a  hog  breaks  on  2  bulldogs  and  out  runs  the whole  pack  and  gone  never  to  be  stopped .......nothing  you  can  come  up  with  will  work  everytime ........ actually  i  could  catch  more  hog  in a  trap .....that  why  i  cut  boars  all  summer  out  of  traps ......then  i hunt  barrs  in the  winter ....
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« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2010, 11:19:23 pm »

It's actually funny to hear you say that PiglyWigly! I was told the same thing by a few guys that I hunt with here and by a few guys that live on the mainland that eventually the guys who live by the Linebred breeds will "see the light" and be forced to cross more grit and speed into their lines! Only time will tell I guess!! We still have a few guys who pay big $ to bring in pure lines from Texas and Louisianna and still catch pigs so I am not sure exactly how true this statement is but think it would be a great thing to document and look into!

it's not that I don't like to hear a good loud bay, it's just more logical to use less bay and more RCD's on the ground. leggy dogs are gonna run down more, but aren't gonna work in some terrian. This is why I'm fixing to have 4 different CD's. not saying my way is best, but like you said, "some people will never see the light." besides, some people are so stuck in their old ways or just too close-minded, they will never figure it out. Look at gps technology, everybody knocked it at first, now look what's on every dogs neck in these pictures. that's why those of us who evolve with the pigs will catch more hogs. Good luck to everybody.
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2010, 11:30:17 pm »

yea larry your right...i guess just as long my dogs are finding them and running them all over thats bout all i can ask from them....guess you cant catch them all...and just wanted to tell you parker i have had the chance to hunt with your old bill dog the past couple years and he is one hell of a hog dog wish i could have hunted with him before he got his back leg hurt
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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2010, 01:40:25 am »

put some gritty dogs on the job they might get cut a bit but he will stop
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« Reply #15 on: March 12, 2010, 06:33:23 am »

I hunt in Georgia and here there are alot of hog hunters. I have one spot where the hogs DON'T bay. In three years I've had two hogs that stood and bayed. Big boars. The rest run after one bark from my single dog. I have friends that hunt in farm country south of me and the hogs there run also. If you have lots of room you can run a dog with lots of bottom. Some properties are just too small for that.
I am gonna have "2" packs of dogs. One really catchy for smaller areas and one or two dogs that are looser baying and lotta bottom for really big areas with less hog density. I realize that rough dogs get hurt more but thats part of it. Ideally I want my rough dogs to hunt within sight of me and all to run together. I have several large RCD's that can hold any hog.
I was just thinking yesterday I could have caught double the number of hogs this year if my dogs were catchy. I know a fella who runs all catchy dogs. He don't have many that get away. His dogs all weigh around 45 lbs. The key I have noticed from talking with him and hunting with him is the dogs have to stick together. An independent dog is asking for trouble.
Running hogs are the future. Just ask the old timers in Hawaii, they can tell you about the hogs there and on different islands how the hogs have adapted to hunters.
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« Reply #16 on: March 12, 2010, 06:54:43 am »

ok i have access to a 50 acre trap hog proof and you can take the same hog same dogs everyday and the hog never bays the same sometimes he runs sometimes he don't im just sayin a hog will run dependin on lots of things and ya you can go in with rough dogs and catch him faster than with loose dogs that's why i have different dogs and as stated above they have to work together
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« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2010, 10:13:51 am »

My dogs will stop a hog in its tracks pretty dang quick, we dont really worry about runners anymore lol
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« Reply #18 on: March 12, 2010, 01:51:27 pm »

i hunted a spot for a wile with 2 rough bay dogs that would stop and catch smaller hogs without a catchdog but when i got on big hogs they would break and run when the dogs tried them you would hear them stop and bay for a minute hear the dogs hit it then off to the races again we brang a buddy with a real good bay dog that would not touch a hog just kind of look at it and yip every once in a while we would sneak up with cd and we did good like that these hogs seemed to stay put if you dident put too much pressure on them
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« Reply #19 on: March 12, 2010, 02:15:07 pm »

i don't  know  how  everybody  elses  places  is  but there  i s way  more  small  shoats  and  sows  where  i hunt  than  huge  boars .....i  will  not  hunt  dogs  that  mangle  up  the  hogs .....thats  just  me .... i  try  and  manage  where  i hunt ......the  people  that hunt  on  invites  usually  run  alligators ...
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