Runners

[BarrNinja]

Yep these hogs now a days have their tennis shoes on but if you all keep haveing trouble with them let me know . I got some muts that will have a whole hind quarter pull off of a running hog . If he breaks once he better leave the country because them long legged muts of mine are going to have him sitting on his back side the next time he stops. I call em "nut dogs". I like em to bay but if they run, I want my dogs to sink them teeth in there backside and hold on until he stops and bays. I have hunted with a lot of diferent hunters and if you have a dog that will chase a hog then you will more than likely not catch the hog, but if you have dogs that bit one and turn one then he will bay up. You just got to have a dog with the right amount of stop and bay. When my dogs bay and the hog breaks, you will not hear anything until you hear that hog grunting a second because one of them has done hit him in the back side, then you will hear them bay again. This is just my opinion about my worthless muts and the way we hunt down here. I don't have any Catch Dogs either so there are not to many people that hunt like me. I still catch alot of hogs and a lot of big hogs with just a bunch of yellow mutts

Cant beat them nut dogs mutts ktchemwcurs! lol.
What kind of country do you hunt?
I have had dogs fully castrate a bad runner on a few occasions. Seems like it made them run harder! lol But more probably do get shut down by dogs like yours in the right country. I dont know. They are your dogs not mine and I will take your word on it.
 
Real thick, wet country is where I have the trouble with these running hogs. My dogs just cant get to them to put teeth on them sometimes. I dont have real rough dogs but they will put teeth on a hog if they get a chance and stop him.
 
buddylee. I dont see anyone claiming their way or dogs is best (in this particular thread;D ) . Why do folks get so sensitive when people talk about what works for them? I dont care what kind of dogs you hunt or how you hunt them. If you are catching hogs I am going to listen to what you have to say. I dont tell people with a cooler full of fish that they are fishing all wrong. I sure as heck am going to listen if they care to tell me what they used and how they used it to catch them!
400 acre city property? Everyone has their own fishing holes and places they like to fish.
Do those hogs ever try and cross the highway on you? Its a scarry prospect and I dont have the kind of dogs to hunt a property like that. I dont seek out properties like that to hunt either but kudos to the doggers that can and do. Some big ole bass get caught in small ponds!

[ktchemwcurs]

Ninja, I consider myself very lucky after reading some of the post on here. I hunt big ranches with lots of hogs so If a hog breaks on my dogs and he dont usually run over 500yrds, then I consider that as a long ways. Normally the hogs down hear will break and my dogs will have it stopped within a 100yrds. Most of the land is big oaks and pecan trees with some palmettos(MSP). I don't consider it very thick but everyone that hunts with me does. I am just blessed with (IMO) dogs that work for me and mind me very well. I have been on running hogs and it makes out for a long day or night but very few. I don't know if my dogs can stop hogs in other places and they probably can't but I can promise that they will stay on one long enough for me. The only hogs that I seem to loose is in the creek. My strike dog climbs on there back and drowns them. Sometimes when we get there we have to wait until the hog floats up. Last year he drowned one that was 230#'s. Dangdest thing I have ever seen. Two weeks ago he drowned that one in the creek, I will post a picture of it. This hog did break and run maybe a 100yrds until Rookie got him in the creek.

Look no bulldog, stike dog drowns

[BarrNinja]

Thanks ktchemwcurs,
Hogs just dont seem to do well piggy backing dogs in deep water do they?


 
 
 

 

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These hogs around my area are pretty bad about running 500-600 yards before baying up. Worse part is having to walk that far when I cant drive straight up to the bay. 

Seriously...that is about the norm for me. I dont know if my dogs do a good job, it is my places or both.....but I have only one place where hogs really run. Even then we almost always get them shut down....using 20 lb dogs.

[Piglywigly]

Krchemwcurs, are you really saying that you stop every hog and they don't make it 500 yards when they run? Come on now, you don't have any dogs that are better than the rest of us. Everybody is getting burned at one time or another. There isnt a dog on earth that's not gonna get smoked by a hog at a few times in his life.

[Circle C]

Come on now, you don't have any dogs that are better than the rest of us.

That's an interested statement....Unless you have hunted with his dogs.  I have never thought that there was a level playing field out there with regards to dogs.   I've seen plenty of dogs out there that are better than the ones I am feeding Some people just have better dogs than others.

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

Some people just have better dogs than others.

Others have great spots to hunt.   

To say that your stuff has never been outrun, tells me one thing.  You have not been in it too long.

What I feed satisfies me, and I feel as though I have high standards when it comes to hunting stock.  However, I can assure you, my hounds do get outrun or outwitted from time to time.  Most of those instances, I have called them off the track, but I do so out of experience.

[Piglywigly]

So everybody on this board has been talking about getting burned lately, and your saying that this guy is the only one around stopping ALL his hogs and NONE make more than 500 yards?? I'm sorry,  but I don't buy it and also know better!

[Circle C]

So everybody on this board has been talking about getting burned lately, and your saying that this guy is the only one around stopping ALL his hogs and NONE make more than 500 yards?? I'm sorry,  but I don't buy it and also know better!

I don't know anything about his dogs or his success rates.  I do know that not all dogs are created equal, and some people do have better dogs than others.

Others have great spots to hunt.

Agree 100%  but that has nothing to do with this statement....

Come on now, you don't have any dogs that are better than the rest of us.

If that statement was true, and all dogs were created equal, we would not be worries about improving our dogs, we would be worried about finding honey holes with slow stupid hogs.

[Piglywigly]

Some people just have better dogs than others.

Others have great spots to hunt.   

To say that your stuff has never been outrun, tells me one thing.  You have not been in it too long.

What I feed satisfies me, and I feel as though I have high standards when it comes to hunting stock.  However, I can assure you, my hounds do get outrun or outwitted from time to time.  Most of those instances, I have called them off the track, but I do so out of experience.

Isn't that the truth! If you haven't been burned at one time or another, you simply haven't been hunting long enough.

A bold statement would be, "I have never been burned!" That's a bold statement!

[BarrNinja]

Not saying that ktchemwcurs are or not but there is always somebody out their with better dogs! Every time I would get cocky about my dogs when I was younger someone with better dogs would go hunting with me and hurt my feelings. lol. Funny but true.

That being said he says he dont get burnt on the places he hunts but admits that there are places that his dogs probably would. I have hunted places regularly and never been burned by a runner. I think a lot of people can say that. Its all about the right place and the right hog from what I can tell.
Ktchemwcurs or someone elses dogs may not ever see a runner on the places I do. I do think sub par dogs are part of the problem on some places with these running hogs but not all of them. I hope this thread doesnt turn into a "your dogs arent any better than mine" debate.

[BigAinaBuilt]

Running hogs are the least of our worries guys, It's when they stop is when they hurt the best dogs out there!

[Kyle0329]

ktchemwcurs apparantly you and some of the other people on here dont understand what i call a runner...a running hog 2 me is not one that you drop your dog out and he goes out there 200 or 300 yards and barks and the hog breaks then shuts him down another 20 or 30 yards and just keeps breaking, iam talking bout throwing your dog and he never laying eyes on the hog just trailing 10 or 15 min behind the hog in that wagon trot that hog get in it dont matter what kind of nut dog, loose dog, rough dog, one dog, or twenty dogs you have if the hog doesnt want to stop he is not going to stop thats when a dog with bottom is your only chance and 90% of the time you will get burnt, and whos to say that you didnt know you were on a runner and your dogs just wouldnt stick with him

[BigAinaBuilt]

Our pigs here flat outrun the dogs! The run like bulldozers and blow down trees and ferns and they do this all on their tippy toes! I ain't making this up! There is nothing like hearing the boar blow as he takes off and you stand there just waiting to hear the dogs yank his ebreak! If the pig is running while we're 10 minutes behind that hog is LONG gone and the dogs are just chasing asswind! 

[TieEmUpOrLeaveEm]

14 hours!!!

I would get that sucker mounted!!! That is one impressive hog and dog to put on that kind of race! What kind of size did it have to it? Lie to me if it was a shoult! lol

If this is what you call a shoult than so be it

This is the 14 hr runner after we got him cuffed and in the truck and cooled down with some water he ended up crokin on us course it was last summer and hot as hell. This was done with one Hound and One catch dog.

On the other hand here was one my smokey dog bayed by himself. We run him the weekend before with a buddys 5 cur dogs for 3 hrs and lost him. So the next weekend we took my smokey dog right by himself and in 2 hrs had him lock down bayed and sent the bulldog in and sewed the deal up.Check out the boars nuts 1 was gone and the otherone was barley there. BY the way smokey is a OPEN MOUTH Plott.

[Kyle0329]

ok iam not calling you a liar just doing some math...but the other day we did a little back tracking on my buddies garmin my dogs ran a hog for a little over two hours in one big block of woods we tracted it all back and they ran the hog a almost 12 miles in one big circle in two hours so thats bouts 6 miles per hour if you ran that hog for 14 hours that would have been 84 miles thats what you call leaving the country lol

[HBR]

I'm pretty sure i can speak for ktchemwcurs and say that he knows very what running hogs are all about . And i can also say that i know very well what they are about.

[HBR]

We are greatfull if we can be back to the truck without the Garmin saying 12 miles. Long nights and this time change is for the birds!

[Kyle0329]

i know what you mean just dont see how he can shut every hog down within 500 yards or so maybe my dogs just suck that bad at stoping hogs or maybe scared to bay and would rather run them lol

[TieEmUpOrLeaveEm]

ok iam not calling you a liar just doing some math...but the other day we did a little back tracking on my buddies garmin my dogs ran a hog for a little over two hours in one big block of woods we tracted it all back and they ran the hog a almost 12 miles in one big circle in two hours so thats bouts 6 miles per hour if you ran that hog for 14 hours that would have been 84 miles thats what you call leaving the country lol

 I have the garmin with 5 collars and its useless unless you can stay right on top of the dogs. The land we was hunting on was 13000 acers with another 10000 acer club ajoining it and we ran slap across both of them of course she bayed and had some walkin bays but he would not stay long anough for us to catch him. I have had dogs out of this same blood run there self to death literally. Im not saying shes the best dog in the world by no means she works for me  where i hunt. And if you would like a hunt here is welcome whenever you get ready ill even feed you and put you up. I can back up what I put on the www. And by no means im not downin no type of dogs I have hounds, and curs they both have there places.