Runners

[Mike]

are you serious? i have just about laughed at people when they talked about running dogs on 10 acre places.

I don't think the whole property was 10 acres... just a 10 acre rice field on the property.

[TJR89]

haha your probably right . we dont have rice fields around here just huge wheat fields and a few other crops but its usually more than 10 acres whatever it is

[Eric]

Same here. I hunt a 250ac corn field with a couple hundred yards of coastal between you and the SA River. Another field is about 300 and is about 100yds at the most off the river. You have to stop them in the field or they swim. The land owner owns pleanty of land around it, just nothing that a hog wants to stop to fight in. I had a guy with some loose dogs help me out one time when my dogs were cut down. We tracked dogs doing circles for atleast two hours. Finally a dog bumped off on one that stayed to fights and we killed it.

Its actually fun to hunt a small trac like that. Its a challenge because you need the right dogs, but there is also a stategic side to it as the hunter. I have ran the same boar hog out of a field 3 times before finally getting him. Each time changing up the game plan a little.

[TieEmUpOrLeaveEm]

Gentics-speed -good cur dogs!!! Works for me!! I have said it once will say it again a hog can breath as long if he is in a trot but can not if he is in a run a dog with alot of speed will knock the  wind out of him and the hog has to bay!

Well I dont know where you hunting at but where I hunt at in the real world Hogs run faster and harder than any deer! NOT TROT! There aint a dog in this world that will run them down in this thickets! You got to have a dog with anough heart, nose, speed and stanima to stop them. We dont have a bunch of hogs just barley a huntable population and we try to keep and protect them by turning every one we catch loose or relocating. Now with that said we are only educating these hogs now when they here a boat, wheeler, truck, or dog box rattle they start runnin not TROTTIN! I have been hog hunting since i could walk and im 27 my grandpa is 77 has been doin it his whole life and we are still no experts! We have had curs, hounds, airdales, fiest you name it. I have been hog hunting in TX, OK,MS,LA,AL,FL, an GA Diff dogs work better in Diff sitioations. Now if i hunted in texas where the hogs was plenty i would only use curs. And a hunt is welcome anytime if you would like to see what im talking about And if you find that perfect dog please let me know! But chances are he aint gona be on the www!

[cward]

We have runners and thickets!! I have never hunter your country so I don't know how it is!!Hear about 3 years ago I was told of a boar hog that was in a 8000 acre lease that could sure smoke a dog!!Bad Thickets!!  I went to try to catch him and sure enough he out ran me 6 different times!! Boy that sure did embarass me but!!I came  up with a cure for that hog!! I have a gyp with lots of nose lots of bottom but runs track for track and barks every time her foot hits the ground!! Then have a male dog that runs wide and is silent when I say runs wide he will leave a track and start trying to cut the hog off (BRAINS) and he can fly!!If he gets throwed off she will put him back!!So this is what I did I put them two on the ground and they bayed together the race was on it lasted about 1/8 of a mile !! The male dog was always way ahead of her and she was barking on track well the hog thinks the dogs are way behind because he heres her barking and the silent dog is cutting him off!! It has worked  for me ever  since!!! I start all my dogs on cows first so they will learn that I want them stopped and bayed that means get ahead and stop them not not bitting the nuts!! If I have a dog biteing a cow on the rear end he is culled that day!! My dogs do not see a hog until they get the cow thing down first!! My point is if the hogs are getting smarter than breed your dogs smarter and better!! Everytime I have a litter I am thinking of there next cross!!Oh when I say started on cows I mean brush cattle braman cross wild goofy cows that run when they hear atrailer and lay down in thickets to hide from you!! I too release and preserve the hogs!!I would much rather a hog than  adeer!!

[Rockin-P-Ranch]

Cward you are a man after my own heart. I wish I had your us of words. You just hit the nail on the head. You have got to get smarter than the hogs. I thought I was the only one one that used my cow dogs to run pigs!!!

[BARRETT]

I just popped my fourth bag of popcorn !!! This is a GREAT Thread!!!

[TieEmUpOrLeaveEm]

Cward what part of texas do you hunt? Like I said diff dogs work better in diff situations. Some people have never been huntin other than where they hunt so they don't know what its like. And yes we are constanly changing and breeding to get what works best. We might ride aruond to 9 or 10 in the mornin till we find a track and then the track might be 6 to 12 hrs old, then again ihave hunted in texas and cought 10 hogs in about 6 hrs and another trip 16 hogs not sayin that's everywhere in texas but was the 2 spots I hunted. This is no pissin match that's why I don't post much I was just postin my opinion and what has worked for us!

[Mike]

This is no pissin match that's why I don't post much I was just postin my opinion and what has worked for us! I have learned there is a lot of experts on the www!!! This will be my last post! I hog hunt not dream about it on the www!

 

Why do people always seem to get their feelings hurt on good debate topics? There's no pissin matches going on?
Just people sharing they way they do things and their experiences... a great majority who's been doing this for many years.

And on a side note, this where we can all be when were not in the woods... and you've spent many hours on here during the past few months since joining. So, put your feelings aside and keep posting... I enjoy seeing everyone does things.

[dabutcher]

This is no pissin match that's why I don't post much I was just postin my opinion and what has worked for us! I have learned there is a lot of experts on the www!!! This will be my last post! I hog hunt not dream about it on the www!

 

Why do people always seem to get their feelings hurt on good debate topics? There's no pissin matches going on?
Just people sharing they way they do things and their experiences... a great majority who's been doing this for many years.

And on a side note, this where we can all be when were not in the woods... and you've spent many hours on here during the past few months since joining. So, put your feelings aside and keep posting... I enjoy seeing everyone does things.

X2  at the very least you can read through this and pick up new ways to try out on a running hog.  one of the better threads in a while.

[BARRETT]

AMEN !!!!

[BigAinaBuilt]

I actually appreciate the direction and tone of this topic lately and how everyone has conducted themselves as adults just discussing different terrains and the different methods or tactics you could try to put the hobbles on a runner. One thing I have learned after being on quite a few forums and discussing a variety of topics is before you log in you need to leave your feelings and ego at the door or else it will not be a pleasent experience for you. The way I see it is like this, Come online read through the 1000s of suggestions and opinions and then go out in the field and build your own. There is no right way and there is no wrong way and there is also NO WAY to catch them all. Good luck in the field guys and thank you for making this a great board to be on!

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

I actually appreciate the direction and tone of this topic lately and how everyone has conducted themselves as adults just discussing different terrains and the different methods or tactics you could try to put the hobbles on a runner. One thing I have learned after being on quite a few forums and discussing a variety of topics is before you log in you need to leave your feelings and ego at the door or else it will not be a pleasent experience for you. The way I see it is like this, Come online read through the 1000s of suggestions and opinions and then go out in the field and build your own. There is no right way and there is no wrong way and there is also NO WAY to catch them all. Good luck in the field guys and thank you for making this a great board to be on!

Very well stated.

[Kyle0329]

ketchemwcurs your taking this all the wrong way in no way did i run your dogs down and not calling you a liar either just couldnt belive that your dogs shut every hog down they got on 99% of the time...and i know my dogs are 10 to 15 min behind the hog when i watch the hog cross the road and my dogs run behind him trailing him 10 to 15 min later everything i hunt is extremy thick woods and briar patches, stuff that you cant even see 5 feet in front of you so when a hog hears a dog coming they break and run before the dog ever lays eyes on them and most of the time dont stop

[TieEmUpOrLeaveEm]

Ok when you get out run what breed of hog is doing it? In my opinion terain has alot to do with it but for the most part its the breed of hog. For instance a long time ago my grandpa told me all the hogs were about cought and traped out in our area so he went to crossville tn and brought back some pure russians and distributed in our public lands which at the time was his hunting club. The reason for this was so every tom dick and harry could not catch em out. And again in 1996 we went back and got another load and did the same thing. Thats why we cut every boar thats not russian. Russians are the fastest and smartist hogs on the planet! Alot of people claim to have russians but do they have the pure and real deal? So lets see some of the pics of yaws runners and see.

This is my old pure russian Brood boar Cluade he came from the sandieago Zoo stock you might have seen some of his relatives n the movie hanniable. This was in 2005 he was a young buck then.

If you will notice he shows alot of resiblince in the first pic of the 14 hr runner


Russian sow we breed to him and turned back loose.


This one here weight was 175 and the only reason he is dead he killed 7 dogs and i had to have him mounted


A few more

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

That was a great scene in Hanibal.

[BarrNinja]

TieEmUpOrLeaveEm,

great pictures! The 14 hour boar is almost a carbon copy. Some serious dog wrecking daggers hanging out of that dudes mouth!

[cward]

Good pictures!! Enjoyed them!!!

[TieEmUpOrLeaveEm]

Thanks

[Ladogos]

Gentics-speed -good cur dogs!!! Works for me!! I have said it once will say it again a hog can breath as long if he is in a trot but can not if he is in a run a dog with alot of speed will knock the  wind out of him and the hog has to bay!

Well I dont know where you hunting at but where I hunt at in the real world Hogs run faster and harder than any deer! NOT TROT! There aint a dog in this world that will run them down in this thickets! You got to have a dog with anough heart, nose, speed and stanima to stop them. We dont have a bunch of hogs just barley a huntable population and we try to keep and protect them by turning every one we catch loose or relocating. Now with that said we are only educating these hogs now when they here a boat, wheeler, truck, or dog box rattle they start runnin not TROTTIN! I have been hog hunting since i could walk and im 27 my grandpa is 77 has been doin it his whole life and we are still no experts! We have had curs, hounds, airdales, fiest you name it. I have been hog hunting in TX, OK,MS,LA,AL,FL, an GA Diff dogs work better in Diff sitioations. Now if i hunted in texas where the hogs was plenty i would only use curs. And a hunt is welcome anytime if you would like to see what im talking about And if you find that perfect dog please let me know! But chances are he aint gona be on the www!

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