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Question: What kind of country do you occasionally find a bad running hogs?
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flooded river/creek bottoms
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« Reply #20 on: March 17, 2010, 04:21:02 pm »

any fl guys ever hunt in mangrove swamps there is one by my house it hase some bad hogs in it but the skeeters are even badder. Hogs have to be some tuff animals to live in that stuff the few i have caught in there where fat and healthy guess they can drink saltwater
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« Reply #21 on: March 17, 2010, 04:25:52 pm »

I knew a guy in Punta Gorda that hunted the mangroves, he said the hogs could get pretty nasty.
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« Reply #22 on: March 17, 2010, 08:38:30 pm »

Typically if they make it to the pepper tree heads or the lake bottom the odds of it turning out in the hogs favor are pretty good!  If we cant cut them off or call them out it typically turns into a few hours of hollering and driving in circles Undecided

Who wants to crawl hands and knees in 6 - 12 inches of water any way?  lol

The really thick cane (right before harvesting) and palmettos are also a little harder for the bigger dogs to work it, but the smaller ones zip right through it....

We cant catch them all but we can dang sure try to give them a run for their money!!!!  Smiley
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« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2010, 12:02:24 am »

any fl guys ever hunt in mangrove swamps there is one by my house it hase some bad hogs in it but the skeeters are even badder. Hogs have to be some tuff animals to live in that stuff the few i have caught in there where fat and healthy guess they can drink saltwater

I heard some mangrove islands in the indian river lagoon have hogs on them, or at least used to.
Maybe I will have to take the boat out one of these days and see if the rumors are true. Maybe drop a few hogs off there and see if they live.
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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2010, 12:56:27 am »

try a little north of pecks lake east side of river they in there
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« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2010, 01:10:25 am »

Where are you from chopper?
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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2010, 03:32:40 am »

all depends on the hog,,,and where. lol
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« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2010, 07:11:24 am »

Seems like when our dogs get left in the dust it is usually in the briar thickets. One time we actually witnessed a hog running at top speed, go right through a tightly woven briar thicket and the dog was right on its heels. the hog disappeared and the poor dog was bounced off of the briar mesh like a trampolene. Those hogs are built aerodynamic and can run at top speed through the crap that makes a dog have to slow down and find a way through it.  So i voted other. Wink
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« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2010, 08:26:33 am »

I tell you what I know some good medicine for bad brair thicket or any vines for that matter.  A good dose of fire about mid January will cure allot of briars.  Find a good natural fire break and light it several hunred yards up wind from the break about mid morning with damp ground and a steady 5-10 mp wind is perfect so it don't get away from you.  Just light a match briars burn quick and sure helps clear things up and even makes good deer habitat for the next couple years, so the goat hunters will be happy as long as one of their deer feeders does'nt jump into the fire. Smiley  It was not uncommon while hunting when I was kid after the dogs were caught for the old men we hunted with to take out matches and just set a patch of woods on fire.  The ground is damp and grass is grazed to the ground by the cows so you couldn't burn the pasture if you poured gasoline on it.  The trees tops wont burn because there is no leaves on them  but the briars are dry and burn very well.

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« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2010, 11:51:30 am »

We have suggested the farm manager that if the fire jumps while they are burning to let'er rip but they always put it out Sad  those hogs would be confused if when they got there the thick was gone. 
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« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2010, 01:45:02 pm »

One of my properties that has the lagodium vines is gonna be burnt in the next month or so. I'll be able to teach them hogs a lesson after that. Grin
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« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2010, 02:02:27 pm »

I would have to say in about a 5-7 yr old pine plantation because the briars are so think in there our dogs cant make circles around the hogs to bay them. Gotta have some real rough dogs around the Groveton area. We were in a pine plantation last weekend that they had select harvested about 3 years ago and the briars were so think and tall that our jeans were tore all to pieces and couldnt hardley lead a catch dog. We wound up catching 2 little boars about 15 lbs apiece but man it was sure nuff thick in there. Hard huntin and gritty dogs around our area.
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« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2010, 03:31:36 pm »

Where are you from chopper?
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« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2010, 07:07:44 pm »

briar thickets! hogs would run ahead and rest til the dogs caught up then go again.briars were full of hogs.if they ever came out the dogs would run em down and catch em.but the briars made our dogs look bad.
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« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2010, 07:11:55 pm »

I would have to say in about a 5-7 yr old pine plantation because the briars are so think in there our dogs cant make circles around the hogs to bay them. Gotta have some real rough dogs around the Groveton area. We were in a pine plantation last weekend that they had select harvested about 3 years ago and the briars were so think and tall that our jeans were tore all to pieces and couldnt hardley lead a catch dog. We wound up catching 2 little boars about 15 lbs apiece but man it was sure nuff thick in there. Hard huntin and gritty dogs around our area.

This is definately tough. Very similar to an open canopy palmetto flat. Its the worst of both worlds. I know of some good dogs that have fallen to nasty boars in this stuff also.
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« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2010, 12:00:16 am »

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This is definately tough. Very similar to an open canopy palmetto flat. Its the worst of both worlds. I know of some good dogs that have fallen to nasty boars in this stuff also.

yup,,, hard for a dog to turn and run from a hog through brairs
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« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2010, 01:07:01 pm »

Well I locked in the poll folks.
After reviewing results and post it seems to me that most hogs hunter get burned in the real thick nasty stuff in general including mature agg crops.
The only surprise for me was the percentage that voted for Pasture land - mostly open country. Kinda blows my theory out of the water with that country and has reinforced my opinion in other areas about runners.
I guess they are out there but I have never seen them. Quick as they are I have never seen a hog flat outrun a dog in open country. Catch dogs not included. Grin  Maybe its as simple as just never having the opportunity on the right hog but Im not convinced of that yet.
 
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« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2010, 01:39:36 pm »

It doesn't matter where we start the hog, what time of day or what the terrain is our hogs can flat out fly. They have had so much hunting pressure that they almost refuse to stop. They get worse and worse. We used to think a dog that went two miles had bottom but my dog and two dogs of my buddies ran a hog for around 4 miles before they finally bayed in a brush pile in a orchard in the middle of a plum thicket last week.
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« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2010, 02:20:17 pm »

Near the city, on county property nicknamed hell
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« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2010, 02:22:05 pm »

It doesn't matter where we start the hog, what time of day or what the terrain is our hogs can flat out fly. They have had so much hunting pressure that they almost refuse to stop. They get worse and worse. We used to think a dog that went two miles had bottom but my dog and two dogs of my buddies ran a hog for around 4 miles before they finally bayed in a brush pile in a orchard in the middle of a plum thicket last week.

Where part of Texas are you running these hogs?
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