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« on: March 16, 2010, 08:41:09 pm » |
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As Of right now we are planning on a live stream of the Reunion Bay . you will be able to go on FBR web site and click on a screen and watch the baying live . If this something yall think would be good or bad let us know now so that we can proceed . Francesca Buck is working very hard to make this happen for us.
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david
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« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2010, 09:18:24 pm » |
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That is a idea but, what if something goes wrong. Their is a chance that a peta person coould be watching. That is why the baypens do not allow camera's. Them people are just waiting for something to go wrong that they have proof of so they can shut us down.
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moffittcatahoulas
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« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2010, 09:28:40 pm » |
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it would be run on a small time delay to eliminate any chance of that.
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david
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« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2010, 09:43:22 pm » |
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if u yall miss anything this sport is could be over , also what if a person does not wont their dog on the internet
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« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2010, 09:48:25 pm » |
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Like mentioned above, if you miss a single nip to turn a hog it will end badly. Between cancellation of ue and streaming video of a baypen, things don't look good for the future of the sport.
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Baypenbubba
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« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2010, 11:29:26 pm » |
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Boy's Obviously you dont know me very well or you would know I would never do anything to hurt the sport that I love and have helped to build over the last 20 years. I dont see where streaming the crowd and interviewing some of the contestants and spectators in a positive light and then selectively playing a few clean runs would do anything but help our sport to grow . If done the wright way it should be a great asset to our sport and show every body we are not the boogie man .as for anyone not wanting to be on or have there dog on that is not a problem no one will be broadcast with out signing a release. youtube is already full of hog baying video and some of it is inappropriate in my opinion . But in the final analisis we will do nothing that does not have the overwhelming support of all of the veiwers on all 6 of the forums that we have posted this notice on
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david
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« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2010, 09:26:11 am » |
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you will be able to go on FBR web site and click on a screen and watch the baying live .
[quote author=Baypenbubb I dont see where streaming the crowd and interviewing some of the contestants and spectators in a positive light and then selectively playing a few clean runs would do anything but help our sport to grow .
two post too different things which one is it ? i agree with the second one that could help but ,that is not live baying |
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Texboar
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« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2010, 10:11:27 am » |
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David,I don't know you very well but I've known Reggie 14-15 years. He will NOT do any thing that will hurt the sport. Maybe I'm wrong but it sounds to me like you've got an axe to grind with him. So instead of nit picking every thing he says to death, why not pick up the phone and call him.
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« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2010, 10:16:11 am » |
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David,I don't know you very well but I've known Reggie 14-15 years. He will NOT do any thing that will hurt the sport. Maybe I'm wrong but it sounds to me like you've got an axe to grind with him. So instead of nit picking every thing he says to death, why not pick up the phone and call him.
I like you better all the time Skipper... |
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Texboar
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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2010, 10:36:20 am » |
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Ben I'm just a likeable guy. But seriously as you know I was oppossed to the live stream. I voiced my concern but I have no problem with delayed. I do believe though that utube and pictures of hogs with ears chewed of have added alot of fuel to the fire. Years ago when 5 or 6 of us first started TDHA here in Groesbeck we went to Austin and defeated a bill that would have shut down our sport (woods and pen). On that morning we went to the capitol not knowing what to expect but, quickly learned how our political wheels turn.The thing that started this whole mess was ONE short video clip, agood bay with One nip to stop a running hog. If they had the pictures and video that we now have, I do believe we would have sunk
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« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2010, 11:01:32 am » |
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Boy's Obviously you dont know me very well or you would know I would never do anything to hurt the sport that I love and have helped to build over the last 20 years. I dont see where streaming the crowd and interviewing some of the contestants and spectators in a positive light and then selectively playing a few clean runs would do anything but help our sport to grow FBR web site and click on a screen and watch the baying live Baypenbubba, Maybe I misunderstood the initial post. I assumed it would be a feed of the baying, not interviewing individuals. Even with a delay, I don't think anyone involved in the baypen sport would intentionally do something to harm the sport. But accidents happen, and if someone missed a nip, it sure could end bad. Whatever y'all decide, good luck and enjoy the festivities. |
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Baypenbubba
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« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2010, 01:31:32 pm » |
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No offense taken on my part. and you all have some very valid reservations .That was the whole reason for throwing this out there to get every ones slant on it. I guess I should have explained it in better detail. first off who ever clicks on to watch will have to have a pre issued password in order to tune in.secondly it will be a 4 day live feed from the FBR featuring campfire talk and interveiws of competitors and hog hunters from all over the US along with the different vendors.thridly the only actual runs that will be brodcast will be runs of strong heathy boars with dogs that never make any contact with the hog .
Our whole goal is to show the world this is a family oriented event in which every member of the family can compete. For to long we have hid out in the dark. Also we are protected in our state legislation that as long as it is a deduction in a contestants score for over aggression our sport is legal under all state and local laws. I encourage all coments on this topic as long as they are presented in a inteligent and constructive manner. Once again I love this sport it has been my life for many years and would never do anything to cause it harm.
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« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2010, 02:32:35 pm » |
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Ben I'm just a likeable guy. But seriously as you know I was oppossed to the live stream. I voiced my concern but I have no problem with delayed. I do believe though that utube and pictures of hogs with ears chewed of have added alot of fuel to the fire. Years ago when 5 or 6 of us first started TDHA here in Groesbeck we went to Austin and defeated a bill that would have shut down our sport (woods and pen). On that morning we went to the capitol not knowing what to expect but, quickly learned how our political wheels turn.The thing that started this whole mess was ONE short video clip, agood bay with One nip to stop a running hog. If they had the pictures and video that we now have, I do believe we would have sunk
If that's true then we all might as well pack it in right now.I'd rather be honest about what I'm doing then try to lie about it and do it in secret constantly worrying about getting "caught" like some paranoid criminal. We are hog-dogging, not baking cookies. It is what it is, and I'm not ashamed... I'm proud of what we do for conservation, and I'm proud of the integral part our dogs serve in that effort. Instead of trying to hide, we should be more vocal about the reality, and benefit the hog-dogger offers to the community. It's not rocket science... you only need to understand two realities: 1) Feral swine populations are profoundly destructive and are growing... and the rate of growth is accelerating. 2) Private land holdings are getting smaller, not larger. In this increasingly broken and parceled landscape, we can't have races that go on for endless miles across 20 different properties. And it's only going to get worse as more and more of rural America turns into subdivisions, strip malls, and office complexes. That means we are going to have to run bay dogs that will put the stop on hog. That means putting teeth on a hog to turn it around or sit it down. This is the reality. There is no point in trying to hide from that reality, again, it is what it is. Hog numbers are increasing and land holdings are getting smaller. Now more than ever, we need our bay dogs to keep races as short as possible. There is very little point in trying to hide the truth... sooner or later the truth will always out anyway. I'm not saying we need to go out of our way to advertise the fact that some dogs have some grit at every opportunity... of course it makes sense to avoid handing the enemies of animal-ownership and animal-use any ammunition in their battle against us, but we don't need to be ashamed of it or bend-over-backwards trying to hide it either. |
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« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2010, 08:33:16 pm » |
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Sign me up for a password! Please  |
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Texboar
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« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2010, 09:16:53 pm » |
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WAARHIED I have to disagree with you on this subject. The animal rights crazies are organized and funded to the hilt, unlike us. You know it as I do. The country boy is out numbered. Watch election results, massive populations in the cities rule every time. Granny Twoshoes leaves millions to PETA or other group to take care of Fluffy after she passes. The poor old "redneck" just doesn't have a chance unless he or she is a little more responsible or maybe not as stupid as they act now.As I've said before pictures and videos of bad taste are detramental to our sport. The system is against us , we are the minority so we have to watch our P's and Q's. I love this sport, been in the woods since 1976 and the pen since 1992 not sayin we need to hide or be ashamed of anything just pay attention and be responsible. I'll give 1 example then shut up. Steer tripping is a big PRCA sport.How many times do you see this on tv? when you do steers are drug out of the arena on a sled. There might not be anything wrong with him but, he may have a broke leg or horn. Just my thoughts.
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david
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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2010, 09:23:44 pm » |
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that was well put . i don't wont to be misunderstood i am agreeing with you.
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WAARHEID
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« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2010, 12:09:18 am » |
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WAARHIED I have to disagree with you on this subject. The animal rights crazies are organized and funded to the hilt, unlike us. You know it as I do. The country boy is out numbered. Watch election results, massive populations in the cities rule every time. Granny Twoshoes leaves millions to PETA or other group to take care of Fluffy after she passes. The poor old "redneck" just doesn't have a chance unless he or she is a little more responsible or maybe not as stupid as they act now.As I've said before pictures and videos of bad taste are detramental to our sport. The system is against us , we are the minority so we have to watch our P's and Q's. I love this sport, been in the woods since 1976 and the pen since 1992 not sayin we need to hide or be ashamed of anything just pay attention and be responsible. I'll give 1 example then shut up. Steer tripping is a big PRCA sport.How many times do you see this on tv? when you do steers are drug out of the arena on a sled. There might not be anything wrong with him but, he may have a broke leg or horn. Just my thoughts.
How are you disagreeing with me? You're saying that we should not hide, but present the truth responsibly... that's exactly what I'm saying. |
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2010, 11:20:15 am » |
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Really interesting idea Reggie. I think the work you've done to make baying more accessible is amazing. I agree that a "live stream" of a bay is an issue, but it sounds like this is really just enhanced video coverage, not literally live video steaming online. And if you are editing properly, I don't see the need for a password really. Bad stuff will get out regardless. Just don't push yourself to edit too quickly with the actual bay footage, take your time and pick the best. I have a feeling y'all bumping your gums will be plenty of entertainment while we wait  |
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Baypenbubba
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2010, 07:29:42 pm » |
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Thanks Blue we have tried really hard and I think it is beging to show we had 80 different people to enter dogs at our last trial and 90% were familys baying togather !! that is what we are proudest of. The live stream will be at least 90% old goats talking dogs and hog hunting and about years gone by we will discuss dif techniques and breeds of dogs and where the bayings began and the impact on hog hunting in general.
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