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rossonj
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« on: March 18, 2010, 11:21:30 am »

How should you go about getting your dogs back if they are on someones land without permission and you can't get ahold of the land owner?  Call the game warden or what are your other options without breaking the law?
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« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2010, 11:32:12 am »

The best answer I can give you is call the surrounding land owners before you ever turn a dog loose.  9 times out of 10 they will be happy you are getting rid of the hogs and it eliminates that awkward conversation at midnight while they are trying to sleep.  Never know, they might just tell you to come hunt their place while you are out there as well.  Always be upfront, it will take you alot farther I promise you!
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« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2010, 11:58:47 am »

Thats what I try and do and it has worked for 99% of the time and I was just wondering about if there was any new laws or anything that I could update myself with...  Thanks for the advice...
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« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2010, 12:50:01 pm »

a game warden can't give you permission to go on someone's land regardless if your dog is there.  it's just the law.  do like Matt said and if you can't get permission best thing you can do is wait em out and try to call em back.
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« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2010, 01:44:19 pm »

In Louisiana we have a law that makes it legal to retrieve your hunting dog from someone else's property, although you can not be armed. Have had to use it a couple of times!!!

Many guys print the civil code on paper, laminate it, and carry with them since most deputies don't know the law exsist. I thought Texas had such a law also?Huh??
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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2010, 02:08:24 pm »

In Louisiana we have a law that makes it legal to retrieve your hunting dog from someone else's property, although you can not be armed. Have had to use it a couple of times!!!

Many guys print the civil code on paper, laminate it, and carry with them since most deputies don't know the law exsist. I thought Texas had such a law also?Huh??

Not anymore.
A few Texas Doggers used it as an excuse to hunt properties without permission and screwed it up for the honest doggers.

I always try to contact serounding land owners before I hunt. That is not always possible. If it happens? I have and will Ninja my dogs back to the truck.  Wink
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2010, 03:00:34 pm »

Virginia is great about that.  I had a plott end up on some guys land.  Then the young dogs ended up barking at his pig shaped target..  HE came out with a gun pointed.  He freaked out and called the law.  I got back to my car and the law was there.  Two county guys.  They said it was all legal to retrieve our dogs.  He was also sorry the guy pointed a gun at us. I would also say up front is the best..Sometimes we cant get to the people to let them know.  I just stay polite as i can....
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« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2010, 08:20:44 pm »

 Here is a copy of the tresspassing law for the state of Louisiana .

Louisiana Revised Statute

RS 14:63 Criminal Trespass


 4. CRIMINAL TRESPASS
1. §63. Criminal trespass
A. No person shall enter any structure, watercraft, or movable owned by another without express, legal, or implied authorization.
B. No person shall enter upon immovable property owned by another without express, legal, or implied authorization.
C. No person shall remain in or upon property, movable or immovable, owned by another without express, legal, or implied authorization.
D. It shall be an affirmative defense to a prosecution for a violation of Subsection A, B, or C of this Section, that the accused had express, legal, or implied authority to be in the movable or on the immovable property.
E. The following persons may enter or remain upon the structure, watercraft, movable or immovable property, of another:
(1) A duly commissioned law enforcement officer in the performance of his duties.
(2) Any firefighter, whether or not a member of a volunteer or other fire department, and any employee or agent of the Louisiana Department of Agriculture and Forestry engaged in locating and suppressing a fire.
(3) Emergency medical personnel engaged in the rendering of medical assistance to an individual.
(4) Any federal, state or local government employee, public utility employee or agent engaged in suppressing or dealing with an emergency that presents an imminent danger to human safety or health or to the environment.
(5) Any federal, state or local government employee, public utility employee or agent in the performance of his duties when otherwise authorized by law to enter or remain on immovable or movable property.
(6) Any person authorized by a court of law to enter or remain on immovable property.
(7) Any person exercising the mere right of passage to an enclosed estate, as otherwise provided by law.
F. The following persons may enter or remain upon immovable property of another, unless specifically forbidden to do so by the owner or other person with authority, either orally or in writing:
(1) A professional land surveyor or his authorized personnel, engaged in the "Practice of Land Surveying", as defined in R.S. 37:682.
(2) A person, affiliate, employee, agent or contractor of any business which is regulated by the Louisiana Public Service Commission or by a local franchising authority or the Federal Communication Commission under the Cable Reregulation Act of 1992 or of a municipal or public utility, while acting in the course and scope of his employment or agency relating to the operation, repair, or maintenance of a facility, servitude or any property located on the immovable property which belongs to such a business.
(3) Any person making a delivery, soliciting, selling any product or service, conducting a survey or poll, a real estate licensee or other person who has a legitimate reason for making a delivery, conducting business or communicating with the owner, lessee, custodian or a resident of the immovable property, and who, immediately upon entry, seeks to make the delivery, to conduct business or to conduct the communication.
(4) An employee of the owner, lessee or custodian of the immovable property while performing his duties, functions and responsibilities in the course and scope of his employment.
(5) The owner of domestic livestock or his employees or agents while in the process of retrieving his domestic livestock that have escaped from an area fenced to retain such domestic livestock.

(6) The owner of a domestic animal while in the sole process of merely retrieving his domestic animal from immovable property and not having a firearm or other weapon on his person.

(7) Any candidate for political office or any person working on behalf of a candidate for a political office.
(Cool The owner or occupant of a watercraft or vessel traveling in salt water engaged in any lawful purpose for the purpose of retrieval of his property or for obtaining assistance in an emergency situation.
G. The following penalties shall be imposed for a violation of this Section:
(1) For the first offense, the fine shall be not less than one hundred dollars and not more than five hundred dollars, or imprisonment for not more than thirty days, or both.
(2) For the second offense, the fine shall be not less than three hundred dollars and not more than seven hundred fifty dollars, or imprisonment for not more than ninety days, or both.
(3) For the third offense and all subsequent offenses, the fine shall be not less than five hundred dollars and not more than one thousand dollars, or imprisonment for not less than sixty days and not more than six months, or both, and forfeiture to the law enforcement authority of any property seized in connection with the violation.
(4) A person may be convicted of a second offense and any subsequent offenses regardless of whether any prior conviction involved the same structure, watercraft, movable or immovable property and regardless of the time sequence of the occurrence of the offenses.
H. The provisions of any other law notwithstanding, owners, lessees, and custodians of structures, watercraft, movable or immovable property shall not be answerable for damages sustained by any person who enters upon the structure, watercraft, movable or immovable property without express, legal or implied authorization, or who without legal authorization, remains upon the structure, watercraft, movable or immovable property after being forbidden by the owner, or other person with authority to do so; however, the owner, lessee or custodian of the property may be answerable for damages only upon a showing that the damages sustained were the result of the intentional acts or gross negligence of the owner, lessee or custodian.
I. A minor ten years old or younger shall not be arrested, detained or apprehended for the crime of trespass.

Now this doesn't mean that everyone  in the hunting party has the right to go to the dogs even if they are bayed .  Only the owner of the dog and only to retrieve his or her dog .  Not the dog and hog . . LOL  
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« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2010, 08:31:03 pm »

MS is the same way and I believe AL is also!
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