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« on: March 30, 2010, 10:53:10 am »


I copied this post from another forum. A fellow from down in south Texas posted it:

Traveled to McCook last thursday to do a little hunting of some hogs that had never been dogged. They had never seen a dog but they certainly knew what a pickup and rifle was. We were hunting in a 1200 acre bloc of crp that was surrounded by cropland. The hogs were coming out in the crops at night and wrecking havoc. All we had to do was drive on the downwind side of the desert willow thickets and when the dogs would bark(usually Quirt) let them go and it wouldn't be but a couple of minutes we were bayed. Let catch dogs go and catch the pig. No breaking, running or anything. Not even any thorns to mess with. In all we caught 15 hogs with the largest being a 175 lb boar. When I left Sunday morning all the dogs were sore footed, including me.

Just curious, I wonder how many people understand why those hogs bayed up so well , were so easy to catch and didnt run ?
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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2010, 10:57:24 am »

Yep and why i LOVE the new places that have never been dogged, easy hogs Grin
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 02:19:18 pm »

Do you understand why? There is one thing that jumps out to me that has nothing to do with the hogs never being dogged.
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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 03:14:54 pm »

the part about it being crp surrounded by cropland?  maybe better cover in the crp than what was around it so they stayed put?

either that or they knew to stay hidden when somebody was driving by?
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« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 03:22:54 pm »

Cause Quirt is a "stock bred" dog.......
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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2010, 04:25:11 pm »

I think I will choose answer....

D. Not enough information

If I were going to start guessing I am going to say it was because their bellies were full from eating all night in the grain fields...but there are too many variable involved for me to start guessing
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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2010, 04:57:34 pm »

good easy hunt
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« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2010, 07:35:01 pm »

I would say because they've had no dog pressure... no reason to run. Never had a pack of rough dogs biting and chewing on their a$$es.

I've hunted places like that... they're fun to hunt. Makes just about any dog shine. Depending on the type of dog you run always seems to be the key to how long the hogs stay like that. Grin
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« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2010, 08:12:17 pm »

Is this a trick question Mr. Skoalbandett? lol.

Its pretty simple the way I see it. They just dont know to run or why the should until its to late for em for the most part. They feel safe in the cover that has kepts them from the sight of trucks and guns. The things they have learned to stay clear of. Approaching from down wind always helps. 
I have seen un educated hogs come to a bay plenty of times just to see what the heck all the ruccus was about.



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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2010, 08:29:01 pm »

Because clearly they were not "russian" hogs......  angel

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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2010, 08:35:44 pm »


I have seen un educated hogs come to a bay plenty of times just to see what the heck all the ruccus was about.






must be nice...
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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2010, 09:25:39 pm »

It may seem a bazzar claim to some but I assure you it use to happen on a regular basis. Bay a few hogs and watch the numbers grow wile the dogs bayed em. Un educated hogs are harder for me to come by these days and I aint seen them in a wile. Matter of fact its been years.

So I just keep mysellf busy hunting Russians these days. Grin 

Waylon you aint right! lol.
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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2010, 09:27:37 pm »

Snuck up on them down wind so they did not have a clue? Evil


BoarNinja, I do think is Bazzar but I have seen it happen twice, Hogs coming into the rally rather than run away
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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2010, 09:33:50 pm »

okay, i give up.    tell me why..
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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2010, 09:39:40 pm »

Maybe it didnt have nothing to do with education and they were just rallying but it happened. It was alway a place that was hog infested and unhunted. I said regular basis. "common" would have been a better word. Either way. I wasnt surprised to see it happen when it did. But do educated hogs rally? I think so.
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2010, 09:44:25 pm »

sounds like fun
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2010, 09:47:19 pm »

boarninja ive wittnessed un-educated and very educated hogs both rally.

once this year at a place that had never been dogged and another few times at a place that has been dogged for twenty years.
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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2010, 10:21:33 pm »

Let me clarify, my statement. I have seen hogs rally many times, love to hear them chattering so loud you can't hear the dogs bark. These have been in places where the dogs have been run plenty of times and in places with low hunting pressure. However to see them rallied, while sitting back watching the dogs baying, holding back your catch dog, enjoying the experience and watching hogs coming from a distamce and scurring into the rally to have your group getting bigger as you watch it happen, thats an experience, that I won't ever forget and hope to continue to see several more times before I am done. These are hogs that I can say for certain have been in same areas/locations that we have caught many hogs from previously.
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2010, 08:56:31 am »

First it was surrounded by open land, they didnt want to head into open land, that doesnt sound like hogs that dont know what dogs are, they knew to rally and fight just because a hog doesnt run does not mean they dont know what a dog is. Most times the most dogged hog will bay the best because they have no fear, they know they can fight and win/kill.

Second someone was right thier bellies were full.......didnt feel like running.

Third you gave it some thought and did things right and just didnt bust in you took the time to check the wind and use the wind, you were on them before they knew you were coming.

The hardest runner in some cases is the least dogged hog (i have seen it to many times, they are scared to death and dont know they can fight or what to do but run), there is no way to say the easy catch is the hog that was never dogged.
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« Reply #19 on: March 31, 2010, 09:07:05 am »

Jay,

I believe you and I will just not aggree on this one.   For the most part, hogs that have never been run or bayed by dogs, tend to not run their first few encounters.  The ones I have had the pleasure of getting on that were "dog virgins" liked to stand their ground and fight.  Catch and release those same hogs, and before long, good luck stopping them.  It was off to the races.  JMO!!!!!!!!
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