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« on: March 31, 2010, 10:31:31 am » |
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im just wondering why dogs are priced so high. 1000 to 1500 hundred for a strike dog is understandable but 2000 to 3000 is outrageous if you ask me. help dogs go for 500 to 600 bucks and thats high. i would take 300 for mine and he will stop a runner he a jam up dog on a hog but i cant see askin 500 for him. i dont make alot of money so i cant afford to pay alot for a dog. why ask that much if you train and sell hunting dogs regularly. i hear alot of people say that they cant afford high dollar dogs so why sell them that high. this is just my opinion and im just wonderin
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« Reply #1 on: March 31, 2010, 10:57:21 am » |
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Dogs are worth what someone will pay for them. No different than horses, classic cars, or baseball cards.
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« Reply #2 on: March 31, 2010, 11:02:13 am » |
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And lots of people are of the mindset that if it costs a lot, it must be really good.
Probably been just as many high-price deals gone sour, as the $100 specials.
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« Reply #3 on: March 31, 2010, 11:58:01 am » |
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ill give you $ 300 for a jam up dog.
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« Reply #4 on: March 31, 2010, 12:09:30 pm » |
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But when you buy four cheap dogs and only one hunts how much did you spend for one good dog? I think people pay more fore a dog that looks good and hunts good. I will take the ugliest dog if he hunts really good. But am a get'r done guy. Why do people pay thousands of dollars for a gun when I can out shoot them with my old beat up gun with the water stained, barbed wire scratched stock. To me a dog's worth is the same as his hunt. But some people like to brag they have the most expensive dog. If one of you reads this; I have a $10,000 dog for sale
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« Reply #5 on: March 31, 2010, 12:15:02 pm » |
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i gave 4 dogs to roughdog (wade) and he is in love with them i gave them away so they would get hunted. i dont see any reason in payin anything over 2000 for a dog. jmo
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« Reply #6 on: March 31, 2010, 06:30:25 pm » |
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i dont want to step on anyones toes but i was raised around the old timers an i have the same mind set they do, 500 bucks is the most i would ever spend for a strike dog. sum of the best dogs ive got are the free ones. but dont get me wrong if sumone walked up on street and said for me to put a price on my dogs cause they wanted them, it would be no less then $5000 a dog. the only reason i would do that is so i could keep my dogs. but like th old saying goes theres a sucker born every second
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« Reply #7 on: March 31, 2010, 07:14:28 pm » |
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like stated earlier its only worth what someone will pay and to be honest if i was ever in need of a jam up dog which im not and hope i never will be i would give 2000 if the dog was exactly what i wanted and takin that i have never seen a dog that's exactly what i wanted i don't have nothin to worry bout the other thing is allot of ppl pay that because that dosent seem like much money anymore im not sayin its not cause it is to me anyways but when trucks are 60000 horses are hundreds of thousands dogs price seem small and back in the old days dog food didn't cost near as much so everything has increased JMO
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« Reply #8 on: March 31, 2010, 07:16:37 pm » |
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I think dogs are priced so high couse of the time and the work it takes to make a hog dog most 1000 doller dogs you can buy somebody put alot of time into em but I don't agree with buyn dogs I get alot more out of get em when their young and trainen em myself. I have found that most started or finished dogs you can buy have bad qualities or sumthing bout their style that the seller can't tolerate any more. Unless it's a good buddy your getn em from. But ne how I think if have a jam up dog thy you wouldn't change a thing about then your Gona hafta pay what the dogs worth to the owner and not actually what the dog mite be worth. Just my opinion
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« Reply #9 on: March 31, 2010, 07:57:19 pm » |
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Just wondering here. How does the fact that every time you drop the tailgate , there is a chance that dog may not make it back?
I lost a damn good English Pointer opening day of quail season '09 to a rattler. IF I would have to price him it would have been $2k or better, but I raised him myself.
Surely that very fact has to come into play with at least some folks when they consider what they will or wont pay .
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« Reply #10 on: March 31, 2010, 08:18:35 pm » |
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of course it comes into play just like someone who thousands for a show steer that might turn up lame its just a chance you take if someone doesn't feel comfortable paying a price for something then its simple don't buy it no one is forcin anybody to buy anything and everybody knows their budget and what they can and can't afford my opinion is when you see the ad and its out of your budget don't bother callin what gets me is when someone calls to buy somethin and before they ask anything they say will you go down on price Idk this is just my opinion
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« Reply #11 on: March 31, 2010, 08:28:14 pm » |
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of course it comes into play just like someone who thousands for a show steer that might turn up lame its just a chance you take if someone doesn't feel comfortable paying a price for something then its simple don't buy it no one is forcin anybody to buy anything and everybody knows their budget and what they can and can't afford my opinion is when you see the ad and its out of your budget don't bother callin what gets me is when someone calls to buy somethin and before they ask anything they say will you go down on price Idk this is just my opinion
That chaps my arse. November of '08 I had a litter of Brittany pups for sale. I get $400 for males and $450 for females. Period. I get a call from a guy in the Valley and he asked if I still had some and I said yes. He said hold on and his Dad got on the phone ( 1st guy had to be late 20's) Dad gets on the phone and first words out if his mouth were "Will you take $300 for a female?" he didnt ask about my bloodlines, how well the parents hunted are anything. Just if I'd come off my price. I told him no and hung up the phone. At least talk a bit before trying to lowball someones price!!
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« Reply #12 on: March 31, 2010, 08:35:29 pm » |
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lol i know what you mean
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« Reply #13 on: March 31, 2010, 08:47:02 pm » |
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Hog dogs are cheap!
Look at the prices for finished Bear or Cat hounds, Coon hounds, Bird dogs or finished Labs.
They would laugh at a $2,000 finished dog.
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« Reply #14 on: March 31, 2010, 09:08:28 pm » |
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Sit down and think how much money you have invested in a 3 year old dog, just in dog food, vaccines, worming, vet bills. Then consider the time it took to get that dog where he is even at minimum wage that adds up to allot of $$$....consider all that and you have'nt even though about what the dog can do yet. I just spent a good deal of cash on a vet bill but it was worth it because I knew it would take that much or more to replace the dog and I know this dog suits me. Not to mention it takes allot to maintain a good line of dogs....some times there is several generations of effort in a line of dogs. Its gonna take allot of money to get those kinds of dogs and personally I think if a person wants to get a dog out of a good line without paying the dues and putting the time in, doing there part to maintain the line of dogs then they are gonna have to pay in cash and lots of it.
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« Reply #15 on: March 31, 2010, 09:20:04 pm » |
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The main reason I raise and sell a litter of Britts every 18 months to 2 years is to help with the upkeep of the whole bunch. As said above, feed, shots, trips to the vet and even building new kennels all costmoney and my bird dogs pretty much pay for themselves year a round.
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« Reply #16 on: March 31, 2010, 09:33:50 pm » |
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I know a few guys who take a lot of pride in the bloodlines of their hog dogs. How ever they don't sell their pups. They are very selective about who gets a pup, but the pups are always free. Most of the people that we hunt with do not buy dogs. But i guess if you are new to the sport and do not have any of these connections...you have to start somewhere. Our best dogs were free, and the highest we ever paid for a pup was $25. A good place to look for a hog dog is someone who breeds cattle bred curs, if they cull a pup for being too rough on cattle, it will usually make a good hog dog and you can probably pick it up for a little of nothing.
Oh...and i wouldn't take a help dog if you gave it to me...(dime a dozen)
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« Reply #17 on: March 31, 2010, 10:37:05 pm » |
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I think there is a big difference in bird hunting and hog hunting. $$$$$$$$ Bird hunting you start and end with the wallet. People will drop money to just go hunt. Those are the people that pay top dollar for a hog dog. Because if you trained a dog and someone wanted to buy it what would you charge? If it was someone who would take the dog hunting every weekend the price would go down because you know the dog will be happy. But if it is someone that just wants to go hunting a couple times a year you figure he will loose interest and just lock the dog up in a back yard the price goes real high. That is why the people that really care about their dogs will give them away to someone that will hunt with them. But they will not sell them at any price to someone they would not give them to.
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« Reply #18 on: March 31, 2010, 11:37:46 pm » |
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That is a very large generalization made there. I know more bird hunters that hunt as often and as cheap as they can than I do with a fat wallet. I hunt public land for my birds. And there is not much of that in TX.
There are guys with money to spare in every thing.
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« Reply #19 on: April 01, 2010, 07:48:49 am » |
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Yeah I hunt birds cheap too. But I have seen a lot of bird hunters throw what I would call stupid money. When I hear what some paid for a shotgun I want to laugh. But it seems to make them happy. But I can get more birds with my dad's old model 12. My huntn truck does not have chrome, carpet, or shiney paint but it does have Super Swamper tires! So spend your. If I spent money getting a dog my wife have me sleeping with that dog. But if some wants to spend top dollar at least the money will go to a hunter.
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