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Author Topic: Huntin straight pits or 3/4 pits?  (Read 3350 times)
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« on: May 09, 2010, 08:40:19 pm »

Wondering who might be running straight pits or dogs that are atleast 3/4 pit. Not talking about a help dog or RCD but dogs that are doing the huntin. I used to have a pure pit that hunted and we only lost one hog due to my bad judgement, not hers.
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2010, 09:30:32 pm »

I don't sir but we have a guy localy we call pee wee who runs nothing but pits, he will take 5 or 6 at a time. He loads'em all in the back of an old 4 wheel drive van and even claims he donesn't ever have a dog fight. He cathes a good number of hogs. His dog's seem to have more leg than most pit's I have been around and they look for a hog on there own
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2010, 10:08:45 pm »

How come you guys think pits don't hunt Im not talking about bullys or any other muscled up dog    they hunt hard  I have no dog fights none for years   none!!  they all ride in the same box I use no ropes    If you know dogs you know it's easy to tell a dog that fights other dogs by the scars I will post some photos  they have plenty leg big heart  Just wondering why you guy's are so down on the pit for all round dog
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2010, 10:13:02 pm »

do your pits bay? 
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« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2010, 10:21:11 pm »

For one pits cant handle the heat or a long race like a good cur dog, two i want a dog thats going to bay a hog not go for a straight catch, to me there is no sport in having 5 rcds grab on a hog at the same time, now dont get me wrong i like pits as a lead in catch dog but will take a cur over a pit anyday to find a hog.
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2010, 10:31:59 pm »

I use pits as cd's, most I have owned are the short box type, would not be suited well for hunting themselves, just don't have the leg or the lung for running a hog any distance. But I have had hogs break after cd was released and they were able to run it down and stay caught till I arrived, but on the verge of overheating. The way they wind hogs does leave something to be said about the ability to find... They have done it. I do have a young pit with alot of leg and more lung than some larger curs, and on some mock hunts she has found and caught before the curs, but all where young not sure how age will factor in.
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« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2010, 10:32:15 pm »

I do not run straight pits, however if I could afford enough of them I would run a straight DOGO pack. I do not believe in giving hogs a chance, and all hogs are leaving the field(s) dead. When we go hunting we are going out to kill hogs and help out the farmers. As well as watch good dogs do their job be it a cur or a catchdog.
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« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2010, 10:36:22 pm »

OK they don't bay you got me  They will hunt in the heat  today 83 70 per sent humidity I caught one boar 100 lbs and a smaller 80lb boar        the summer 95 100 per sent humidity  how much heat are we talking about
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« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2010, 10:42:40 pm »

If your not seeing legs your looking at the wrong line there are some good running lines they may cost you but well worth it
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« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2010, 10:50:05 pm »

the heats probably bout the same but in a long 3 or 4 hour race i dont think a pit can stand the heat like a cur can...i may be wrong but after a dead pit last year that we walked into a bay about a half a mile and caught one litter sow he had a heat stroke thats the only reason y i have my doubts....pits do have a lot of drive, but i think they lack in having bottom and a good nose, and thats the two most important things i look for in a dog...iam not saying you cant catch alot of hogs the way you hunt, its just not my style.
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« Reply #10 on: May 09, 2010, 10:57:03 pm »

For sure the pit race is shorter   I look at it like this your runnen dogs are formula one  The pit top fuel dragster   Is all about what you prefer
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« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2010, 11:01:22 pm »

lol i like the way you put it...the way these hogs run on the places that i hunt you just have to have something that can stay in the race as long as posible...now if i hunted rice or corn fields that were infested with hogs i would hunt pit and pit mix dogs, but they just dont cut it were i hunt.
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« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2010, 11:13:52 pm »

my dogs hunt very silent many times they will grab him in bed different style  very short races  a long race for me 2 to 3 hr
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« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2010, 11:56:37 pm »

ok i can't resist you guys who are talkin about the pits who can't handle heat are gettin the bullys or bully crosses not the old style game dog look it up they have been used way before any of us where alive as huntin pack dogs the ones i am talkin about are lean and have a more narrow muzzle i raise the bullies and know a bit about em but as far as an actual true blood game dog goes they have plenty stamina and make a well rounded dog but  i won't use em cause as stated all catch no bay
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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2010, 12:18:34 am »

for sure it's all about what you like   For me its that action of the catch    There are other reasons I choose pits   they are very obedient  I have not left a dog in the mountains for years unless he was dead  very loyal are the bmc considered one man dogs    most times I have found the more gritty dogs ted to be very close to the handler
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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2010, 06:09:12 am »

Not to be rude but I would like to hear from folks hunting pits or heavy pits, not people who have never done it. I have hunted with pure pits before. I realize they don't have a lot of bottom, i realize they don't have a nose like a hound, and realize they don't work everywhere. The pits I have come from true game bred lines. They are very athletic, have good wing, and my walkin catchdog has found hogs on his own before. I have a cat that will get gone after a pig but most of my properties are too small for her and I can't run like I used too  Grin  If you have hunted with them or know of someone that has or does, how did it go ?
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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2010, 08:51:08 am »

For one pits cant handle the heat or a long race like a good cur dog

This is probably the greatest misconception that's been propagated over and over on hunting boards. Historically speaking, the APBT was selectively bred for over 200 years for combat and is largely considered to be the ultimate canine athlete. If the above is your general experience with a "pit" then you haven't seen a real APBT (today known as a gamebred APBT)...just counterfeits. In properly conditioned animals...you should not see any difference in an APBT and a cur as far as wind/heat tolerance goes.

The ones have owned/own will hunt on their own, if allowed, and have a decent nose...same goes for the majority of my ABs.
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« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2010, 10:06:40 am »

I have a pit gyp that was my main strike dog. Wouldn't put her mouth on a hog till the catch dog got there.
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« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2010, 11:26:36 am »

Sorry about that
Do you guys consider the energy lost on the way to the grab?   or waiting on the bay     The pit way of thinking is totally different than your average hunting dog      One thing I work for is control     I work all my dogs with out a leash     The ones that over rev I will make them watch the action until they can control them selfs    This goes a long ways in making a solid hunting pit



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« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2010, 02:51:06 pm »

I can walk my gyp through the woods with no leash and on many occasions she has gone and found her own hog. never had a problem with her gettin over heated and she can keep up with most of my curs. She has even winded hog from the truck.
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