dogo vs pit

[bignasty]

A good dogo from good lines will IMO out perform a bulldog. I ran bulldogs for years and have now switched to DOGOs due to how I hunt and their size.

JOJO do some research on the dogos before making statements you know little about. There is no pit or bulldog as we know it in the dogo. In fact here is a link explaining how they bred and came up with the DOGO.

http://www.dogousa.org/DACA/history_of_the_dogo.asp

dont sound fair to me the way you put it.......what about a good bulldog from good lines vs a dogo...now...lol

bulldog vs dogo ....on a bad boar one on one who will cur out....enough said-give me the bulldog...

if you need bigger get a great dane

[make-em-squeel]

The pit has been line bred to do one thing for a long time that makes it catch on easy to hog hunting as we typically use them as a cd. The dogo is a relatively new breed compared to a pit or ab and was not bred to be a catch dog originally they were bred to hunt and be catchy like some curs but not like a pit. Over the next 20 yrs or so more people will water down the dogo breed for show and others like us will turn them into a basic pit type catch dog with better lungs and anchoring weight in general. I really like both breeds but lean towards my dogo;s however i think you will find more dogo culls now b/c it is such a young breed, your comparing apples to oranges , but if you want a good dogo send me a pm and get on the waiting list  

[make-em-squeel]

bignasty i assure there are plenty of dogos out of hunting lines that have no quit- same as a bulldog. I'll be happy to show you if its ever conveniant for us. We just have to keep these novelty breeders away, thats why pits are so game ... decades of line breeding for one reason! dogos are only a baby compared to the AB much less the pit.

[Scott]

dogos are only a baby compared to the AB much less the pit.

In relation to the APBT yes, I agree. In relation to the AB...not so much.

As far as the Dogo breeders go, I'd want to know quite a few things before I'd put my name on a waiting list. Things like:

1. How long have they been breeding Dogos
2. Do they actively work/test their breeding stock
3. How many litters have they whelped
4. Total number of pups produced, and how many have been placed in hunting homes
5. How many culls (in other words turn out percentage of each litter)

and those are just 5 quick, off the top of my head. As with any working breed, don't believe any fantastic stories. If it sounds too good to be true....most often, it is.

[hoghunterdfw]

I own a good dogo so I guess I can't chime in cause I am bias. However all this talk and speculation makes me want to just break this down Mythbusters style out in the woods and finally put this arguement to rest. anyone with a well bred pit out of solid A++ lines want to get in the woods and run him against my dogo let me know.  Of course due to the (individual dog being better than his breed standard and maybe not a good representation of said breed) arguement, it will not be determined by just one outing with 2 dogs but several outings with a variety of both pits and dogos.  maybe one day someone will organize an event and set this up with pit and dogo hunters and we will know for sure definitely which one is best for the typical East texas hog dogger. Until then everyone has their own likes and dislikes and styles but the way me and Grant hunt, dogos are the dogs for us.

[3-Bdogs]

still don't think that would settle it to many factors would have to be put in into it plus your never goin to make every hog hunter agree on anything except that they love hog hunting lol

[Scott]

I own a good dogo so I guess I can't chime in cause I am bias. However all this talk and speculation makes me want to just break this down Mythbusters style out in the woods and finally put this arguement to rest. anyone with a well bred pit out of solid A++ lines want to get in the woods and run him against my dogo let me know.  Of course due to the (individual dog being better than his breed standard and maybe not a good representation of said breed) arguement, it will not be determined by just one outing with 2 dogs but several outings with a variety of both pits and dogos.  maybe one day someone will organize an event and set this up with pit and dogo hunters and we will know for sure definitely which one is best for the typical East texas hog dogger. Until then everyone has their own likes and dislikes and styles but the way me and Grant hunt, dogos are the dogs for us.

The dogs will be judged by whom, and against what criteria?

Basically, you got it right in the last sentence of your post...it's all personal preference.

[S_J_KENNELS]

still don't think that would settle it to many factors would have to be put in into it plus your never goin to make every hog hunter agree on anything except that they love hog hunting lol

AMEN......but then it does make a good arguement/discussion.

[Lone Star 88]

I have a Am Staff male 63 lb 19" tall he is a gladiator. Has a problem with male dogs, i will work that out. But hunting, it's all about hitting that hog. I sent him to Joe at ushogoutfitters. I did this so when i first let him go he would know what his job was, and not some free for all. First hunt the hog broke the bay. I yelled at him to get that hog and he caught her on the run. And then it was a free for all for all the dogs nice 250 lb sow with small cutters. One dog down. I was real proud of him. He was a stray, i have vet bills just to get him healthy. I've had him for 9 mon. Get a lot of strays were i live in Dallas. They are now 8 catch dogs and loven life.

[dub]

I do not care about any breed. If I do not like the personality I do not want the dog. If the dog attacks the pig I do not want it.  Any dog I have my little girl can pet or I do not want it. But you do what you want. You get the dogs you want to hunt the way you want. That is why there are so many breeds of hunting dogs. My opinion some dogs will run down and catch a hog, but I want one that walks down and catches them all. What breed? Who cares?

[gottagettem]

i got sum pits . and a bulldog...they hunt  ... but they ware down quick..in the heat...  i heard dogos last longer then the others... iwant to get a  dogo. and i think i found a guy that knows alot about them and said he will sell me one. and if it culls out .to bring it back and he will swopp it out...that a good business man.. there....  standing behind hes dogs and pups.... pits can be found a dime a dozen.. no body wants to spend that much on sumthing and it not work out... feels like u got ripped off if it dont work out....all dogs just need time and work thow......just my two cents

[HIGHWATER KENNELS]

In a perfect hog huntin world, where the hog bays and you are able to walk or ride to within 200 yards of the bay whether it be winter or summer, and the pits are sent in and they will seal the deal.  I have not had the opportunity to even hunt with a dogo yet, but i can tell you that I have seen many of times where I was NOT in a perfect situation and the boar hog broke before the catch dogs got there and guess what, well you end up with empty pockets cause the hog dont want to stop again and the pits run out of air a half a mile from you.  I believe then, a dog with the HUNT, STAMINA , and Nose to run with the strike dogs to catch up and stop that hog would probally put a smile on my face, instead of gettin the case of the RED A**.  Maybe one day I will have the opportunity to see if the DOGO breed walks  the walk in those situations and I will then have one of my own.....

[TieEmUpOrLeaveEm]

We Perfer the pit. I have seen 3 dogos catch and Imo they dont have the features I like. I have a dogo I tried a gyp and she will swap holds. Im not knockin no ones dogs there are good and bad in all breeds. I have been hunting the same line of pits for 12 yrs and my grandpa longer. Why change what works

And for those that say a pit dont have stanima and burn out easy I have seen ours stay in a race 2 hrs in july!

And for the nose they have it also have had them strike out of the box, boat, and wheeler.

I dont like the short game breed pits, I can ride mine with any male dog on my place! They are calm and have very good handle. They are 100% head dogs if they catch anywhere else I cull them! And we have very very few culls! I have had them catch shoults at 6 to 8 weeks old

Here is a few.
Buck And Ringo


Ringo


Trouble JR


Girdy


Hammer

[UNDERDOG]

I dont like the short game breed pits,

That is a misconception,most game bred dogs are not short and or squatty....the blue/hippo/pet junk maybe but the old,good game dogs typically have plenty of leg some look just like you Buck dog.

[ppc dogos]

We have had dogos for more than 20 years now and send quite a lot to hunters all over the world, we generally hear that they prefer the dogo because of his very friendly temperament and intelligens.

As a pure catch dog there is not much different than the weight comparing dogo to pit. And sometimes  this more weight are good to have when wrestling a bigger boar.

If you hunt with dogo on the ground you will see the other qualities of the breed. They are quite easy to stock break, social in the pack, and are intelligent hunters with good nose.
They are in general easy to handle, soft to the owner and do not need a hard hand.

Dogos are very trustful to man, should never be  or made agressive.

[bignasty]

In a perfect hog huntin world, where the hog bays and you are able to walk or ride to within 200 yards of the bay whether it be winter or summer, and the pits are sent in and they will seal the deal.  I have not had the opportunity to even hunt with a dogo yet, but i can tell you that I have seen many of times where I was NOT in a perfect situation and the boar hog broke before the catch dogs got there and guess what, well you end up with empty pockets cause the hog dont want to stop again and the pits run out of air a half a mile from you.  I believe then, a dog with the HUNT, STAMINA , and Nose to run with the strike dogs to catch up and stop that hog would probally put a smile on my face, instead of gettin the case of the RED A**.  Maybe one day I will have the opportunity to see if the DOGO breed walks  the walk in those situations and I will then have one of my own.....

run out of air 1/2 mile from you ? i dont know what kind of pit you got but that is sad

[duece24]

i've seen a pit cur out on a 150lbs sow that had some fight(my bluetick ended up catching it), i've only hunted behind ushog's dogo's and they have never quit ON ANY SIZE hog. there are good and bad in all breeds. it's simply personal preference and how much money you want to spend. it is also who you get the dogs from.

hunt what works for you. i have a dogo now i love her, easy to walk in the woods, minds real well and catches like she is supposed to. there are many pits that do the same. i love both breeds, i just wanted a dogo so i got one.

[bignasty]

yea well i seen a 70 lb sow shake 2 full grown 100 lb dogos off and slip off into the night and the dogos could not find the hog again

[Hog Dog Mike]

I hunted with a guy one time that had 2 or 3 dogos. He had been hunting alot down in south Texas and the dogs were scarred up pretty bad. Also all of them had some sort of skin problem. I don't know if they are all like this or not. They did OK on the hunt but not any better than most pits and not nearly as good as alot of pits I have hunted.

Another guy that I hunt with alot got a dogo on a package deal where a guy was selling everything--dogs, boxes, leads, vests, everything. He got a cross bred redbone hound that was a damn good dog. The dogo was OK but I think he was way past his prime when he got him. We hunted him until he died of natural causes. He was a good catch dog, got along well with other dogs, but was not a great catch dog.

I don't think I have seen enough of them to have ever seen a really good one.

[make-em-squeel]

dogos are only a baby compared to the AB much less the pit.

In relation to the APBT yes, I agree. In relation to the AB...not so much

What is there to agree about? Its a fact the pit is an older dog than the AB and the Ab is much older than the dogo. Catching a hog in a pen was part of the AB's original requirement to get papered, this was changed before any of us in America even knew what a dogo was.