dogo vs pit

[USHOG]

I have seen many catch dogs get walked around. Dogos, ABs, pits, Cats, and Ridge Backs. It is not practical to say that a 75 pound animal can control another animal that out weighs it by 4 or 5 or even 6 times bigger. Last week I watched my pit weighing 70 pounds look like an ear ring. He could not stop the barr in fact the barr ran as fast as he could with Pulo dangling as he did without him. I sent in another CD which was an AB and it was over. I don't think either dog could have done the job without the help of the other unless they got lucky. The barr weighed 411 pounds and was stopped very quickly once both CDs where on the ear. Here is a picture of the barr



Average weight on my dogos is 70 to 85 pounds. I have never seen one bigger but I am sure they are out there.

[Mike]

That's a dang good barr Joe!

I hear a lot of people say those big, fat barrs are easy to catch... most of them have never caught a barr. Big barr hogs like that have been the worst i've been on as far a tossing, slinging and wrecking dogs... they remember what happened last time they were caught and ain't going down without a fight.

[3-Bdogs]

ushog nice hog and i agree with you just that allot of ppl act like dogo hold a hog better because they have a few more pounds that doesn't make a difference on big hogs as stated earlier i prefer pits cause i raise em and that's what i like so at the end of the day its all preference because a pit ab or dogo can all get it done

[S_J_KENNELS]

I dunno about the weight so much as I prefer the leg on one. I have seen many pits and some ABs that dangled off big hogs ears, but have yet to see a DOGO have to do that. That is why I prefer them. A big hog can and will drag one dogo or any catchdog for that matter. Some hogs can do it with two or more(seen with own eyes and have witnesses) but most of the time those dogs do not have the leg under them a dogo does to plant and hold with. I have seen many a pit jump up and grab an ear, ball up, and hang on for the ride. Same with some of the ABs I have hunted with. I have yet to see that with a dogo. Again each to their own and preferance. I prefer DOGOS for their leg and ability to run with the curs and ability to handle the heat better then most bulldogs. That is my preferance. As I turn loose from where ever I hear the bay/catch at and run in behind the dogs. I do not lead in and need dogs that can handle their own untill I get there.

What I want to see is these super catchdogs that folks claim to have that can hold any hog by themselfs on a big boar/hog without human help right away. Let them run in from a distance and see if they do not get dragged from the orginal catch site or worse. Not saying they can not do it, but I have my doubts that they can. Atleast not without the handler/hunter being right there to help them.

 

[3-Bdogs]

sj i am with on seein those dogs ppl talk about that are superior dogs that can hold a 400 + hog as still as a wall with one dog

[S_J_KENNELS]

sj i am with on seein those dogs ppl talk about that are superior dogs that can hold a 400 + hog as still as a wall with one dog

If and when I can find one I can get rid of all but two or three dogs(two strike/bay, and supercatch) and cut back on my food bill LOL.

[3-Bdogs]

lol if you do find one clone it and put a patent on it you could get rich lol

[S_J_KENNELS]

lol if you do find one clone it and put a patent on it you could get rich lol

LOL nah I would not get rich as I would not charge an arm an leg for one. I aint after $$$$$$$$ just dead hogs LOL.

[cantexduck]

us hog,
  I thought you ran all dogos?

3-B,
  You got some big pits. Have any pics you can post?


  A pissed off hog is gonna throw around anything. Size helps.

[raider54]

Bring on the questions, Scott, I will answer them as good as I can.

B

I guess the 5 questions in the earlier post is a good place to start, so here they are:

1. How long have they been breeding Dogos
2. Do they actively work/test their breeding stock
3. How many litters have they whelped
4. Total number of pups produced, and how many have been placed in hunting homes
5. How many culls (in other words turn out percentage of each litter)

Im gonna say this again! do you go through that checklist when you are buying a pit C/D? I am sure there are a few Pit breeders out there that have kept up with those stats you mentioned but I am quite sure when someone needs a CD in general they put out the word they need a CD then they buy it by word of mouth or they try the dog out. If you have a Pit breeder that has a data base to answer all your criteria then you will be hard pressed to find a finished CD that meets all your demands for under $1000 now you are right back to whats going on with the dogos.

I already answered, but I'll say it again as well. Yes, I do. The old dogmen I deal with when I want or need an APBT can give you more information about each individual dog they own/breed spanning multiple decades. What's more, they are very selective on who they allow own a pup/dog of theirs. And, no, if you can get a dog from them...you aren't going to spend that kind of coin.

Do I think that the majority of hunters would ask those questions regarding any dog/pup they are interested in? Not in a chance.

Either way, I think prudent to ask questions before you spend your hard earned money.

Scott I agree with you.  That is why I breed my own!

[Kyle0329]

i have to disagree on the size helps...i think a cd weather its 30lbs or 80lbs it can only hold a hog so long...i think its up to the hunter to help the dog out as fast as posible...when i let my cd go iam usually looking at the hog and iam right behind her when i cut her loose i dont give the hog a chance to drag her off...i dont think there is a dog out there that is going to hold a big hog for along period of time without getting tierd and drug around the longer you take to help your dog out the more of a chance you take on getting it cut or even worse killed

[raider54]

Bring on the questions, Scott, I will answer them as good as I can.

B

I guess the 5 questions in the earlier post is a good place to start, so here they are:

1. How long have they been breeding Dogos
2. Do they actively work/test their breeding stock
3. How many litters have they whelped
4. Total number of pups produced, and how many have been placed in hunting homes
5. How many culls (in other words turn out percentage of each litter)

Im gonna say this again! do you go through that checklist when you are buying a pit C/D? I am sure there are a few Pit breeders out there that have kept up with those stats you mentioned but I am quite sure when someone needs a CD in general they put out the word they need a CD then they buy it by word of mouth or they try the dog out. If you have a Pit breeder that has a data base to answer all your criteria then you will be hard pressed to find a finished CD that meets all your demands for under $1000 now you are right back to whats going on with the dogos.

I already answered, but I'll say it again as well. Yes, I do. The old dogmen I deal with when I want or need an APBT can give you more information about each individual dog they own/breed spanning multiple decades. What's more, they are very selective on who they allow own a pup/dog of theirs. And, no, if you can get a dog from them...you aren't going to spend that kind of coin.

Do I think that the majority of hunters would ask those questions regarding any dog/pup they are interested in? Not in a chance.

Either way, I think prudent to ask questions before you spend your hard earned money.

[matt_aggie04]

I have been reading along here and I just find it comical how strongly some people feel.  I have been on message boards for around 6-7 years and everytime I see a VS thread I crenge because nothing ever becomes of it.  There are five pages here of nothing more than opinion, I might as well be writing about the weather or politics.  Nobody is going to persuade anyone or win them over.  Everybody just feed what you like, take pride in it and take care of it.....my .02

[S_J_KENNELS]

I have been reading along here and I just find it comical how strongly some people feel.  I have been on message boards for around 6-7 years and everytime I see a VS thread I crenge because nothing ever becomes of it.  There are five pages here of nothing more than opinion, I might as well be writing about the weather or politics.  Nobody is going to persuade anyone or win them over.  Everybody just feed what you like, take pride in it and take care of it.....my .02

Come on Matt you know it makes good reading and usually a fun arguement. As long as folks don't loose their tempers over it LOL.

[USHOG]

 Dogos are by far my favorite dog to hunt with but by no means the only dogs I hunt with. I also train dogs that are not mine. The hunt with the big barr I was working with Treu (AB) and Patches (Catdo)  that belongs to JC and my dog Pulo (Pit x Cur) when we caught him. 

I disagree matt_aggie04 some good things do come from these posts I have actually met a few new people during this post that I probably would not have met and are planning a few hunts in the near future.