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HIGHWATER KENNELS
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« on: May 17, 2010, 07:18:42 pm »

Fellers, I would like to know if yall breed for a independant style or a strong medium range pack dog that sticks together close with each other. And in other words, dogs that hunt together and cover ground or you throw out several independant dogs and they pay no attention to one another and can end up by themselves anywhere?
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2010, 08:44:10 pm »

I don't breed dogs but I prefer my dogs to work as a team but have the independance to take a pig by themselves
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« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2010, 09:15:52 pm »

I don't breed, and mine are all young. When hunted together they hunt together, if one dogs finds a hog they all are on him from the start, but when I hunt with someone else the dogs I normally take, which are my better ones, are very indepedent. They still honor and help, hut they seem to want to outdo the other dogs. I kinda like both styles. Together, I know none of my dogs are bayed alone, and with others, I like to see them try to out work the others and hopefully strike out in front of older and better dogs.
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« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2010, 09:22:26 pm »

i like dogs that can split up and hunt on there own and not all follow one dog but also honor another dog in need.sort of inbetween what your asking but i dont breed for either i raise the dog train him the best i can and see where or if he fits my needs.
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2010, 01:56:30 am »

In my experience, a dog that is good at finding a hog is just naturally independent. "Pack" is not a trait I would ever consider when breeding. In my opinion it would be like considering "ears vs no ears" as a trait. Dogs are usually just born with them anyway. Grin

If you have a dog working a good track would you want him to leave it just because his pack mates arent with him?

Just because a dog is independent doesn't mean he is not a pack animal. It just means he is trying to find a hog and could care less about what his buddy Spot is doing 300 yards away unless.........ole Spot starts baying a hog that is. Wink


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« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2010, 04:13:33 am »

I have a buddy that breeds his dogs to move as a pack and their legit. Wherever one goes they all go, whenever I started hunting with him alot my dogs started getting use to doing that. To me it seems like whenever you get on a hog that will run it isn't goin far cuz when one is there they all are.
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« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2010, 06:54:50 am »

Independence is a very desirable trait IMO.  I want them out hunting and working thier own tracks.  They can become a pack when someone else barks.
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2010, 07:58:12 am »

My opinion is that "pack dog" is just a fancy word for a me-too dog or a help dog.  No place on my yard.  They should honor each other and work together at a bay, but each should be hunting and doing their own thing otherwise.

Independence is probably the foremost trait I desire when breeding.
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« Reply #8 on: May 18, 2010, 08:23:10 am »

i like  dogs that can do it  solo ...... when  you  have a  pack  you'll  usually  have  one  or  more  key  dogs  in the  pack  that the  rest  rely  on ....if  you loose  those  key  dogs  your  about  done ...... all my trainied  dogs  can be  hunted  solo .....
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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2010, 08:41:21 am »

My opinion is that "pack dog" is just a fancy word for a me-too dog or a help dog. 


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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2010, 08:51:01 am »

My opinion is that "pack dog" is just a fancy word for a me-too dog or a help dog.  No place on my yard.  They should honor each other and work together at a bay, but each should be hunting and doing their own thing otherwise.


I was thinking it but you said it. lol

I think I need to define my definition of "pack". Simply dogs excepting one another as part of the family or Family orientated.
Not actually hunting in a wadded up bunch and traveling through the woods like a small flock of ducks. Thats why I compared "pack" to "Ears" in my first post on this thread. Its just something they are born with when you look at it the way I look at it. Even totally independent dogs hang out with the rest of the family when they are not hunting.

Times that I have witnessed dogs hunting like that is because one dog was actually doing the hunting wile the others were tagging along close so as to just get in on the action when a hog was found. I call them "me to" dogs also. Not pack dogs.




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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2010, 09:07:27 am »

I wish I had a dog are two that would run with my strike dogs and be there when he or she found.
Would'nt take long and they'd be strike dogs too.
My strike dogs will leave the wanta be's behind and go find hogs like there suppost to.
My old uncle that ran leopards on bad cattle would tie a young dog collar to collar with a finished dog and turnem loose! Don't really remember alot about how that worked out for him but remember seeing him do it!
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« Reply #12 on: May 18, 2010, 01:26:57 pm »

That's why a couple of years ago I had to sell two good strike dogs they were so independant or hard headed that the would keep hunting and not honor each others bay. It was like they were so competative with each other they woudln't hunt with each other it was ridiculous.
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