Educated Boar hogs!!

[cward]

How many of you track hunt and put your dogs down on an old big boar and the dog's bay him then he breaks and runs right into a bunch of sows and choate and squats sending your dogs all over the place then he gets to slip out!!

I have tons of these stories just would like to hear some of your's!!

[sfboarbuster]

One night hunting out on the sugar cane fields, we had three dogs out, one of mine and two of my buddies.
Had one bayed in a ditch grown up in maiden cane. He broke and came running past us, with the dogs on his azz.
About twenty minutes later we got to where they were bayed again, and cut the CD loose, then we heard squealing, we're all thinking damn't they got on a different one. After we barred it I am thinking where is bella? I heard a bay way off in the distance, we cut the other two dogs to her. Got up there and cut loose my dog Doc and my buddies CD. Doc hit first and went to flying, he went right back in and they hit him at the same time. Looked like ragdolls hanging off of his ears, he would sling his head up and both dogs would go flying, all four feet off the ground. He was about 285 with 2 1/2 inches, the head on the left in my avatar.

I would say he knew the routine but we got him shut down.


And i'd also say the only reason we got him bayed was because there was only 1 dog there!!!

[leonriverboy]

A few years back I went for a morning hunt and caught a couple of pigs.  This was late summer and it was very hot.  I was home by noon. That afternoon I was hanging deer feeders on the backside of my subdivision once I had the feeder hung I heard some rustling in the brusk and I thought great the deer are already here.  I started looking for the deer when out pops one of the biggest spotted boars I have ever seen.  So I slip out of there real quiet and haul a$$ back to the house.  This was about 3:00 p.m. and 100 degrees now looking back I should have waited until night but I got too exited.  I had never seen any hogs this close to my house and knew no one ever hunts back there and it being so hot I thought this ole boar would just stand there and let us bay him. Wrong!  Once I get to the house I start loading up dogs I have to take my second team because the first team is about 20 miles away.  I load up 4 or 5 worn out dogs probably my second mistake.  Probably should have just taken 1 or 2 dogs but I don't have cd he is also 20 miles away.  I turn them lose on this boar and they find him and he takes off like a rocket.  So much for my easy to bay theory.  I'm a foot so hear we go they finally bay about a mile away and I huff it in there to find a sow and a few shoats.  No big boar around he ran right through this bunch and ran out the back side, what a gentleman!  Of course all the dogs bayed up on the sow they were too worn out to catch so I shot her and the ol' spotted boar got away never to be seen again.  A few months after this all the hogs cleared out and I haven't seen any hogs or sighn in a year on this place.  I have had big boars do this to me several times.  I think this is an instinctive reaction even if they have never seen a dog before.  I have had it happen on places that have had no dogs on it.  It's a good plan for the boars because most of the times it works.

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

They are no different than a big buck being chased by dogs.  They will automatically try to transfer the chase to the females.  Mighty kind of them.  This is where having dogs that will stick with a specific track comes in handy. 

[Cull Buck]

I assume it happens but there have only been a handful of times I've seen the hog before we caught it so I have no idea what they've struck in the first place.

I can tell you one thing....when we go on a couple mile race and end up with curs stretching out a little 80lb hog I'm pretty certain that's not the hog we started out chasing.   

[BarrNinja]

I hate to admit it but I think it happens more than we think. I have witnessed boars and barrs do this. I have also witnessed boars and barrs alike, bayed in a sounder, nose a smaller hog right to the dogs and then slip out the back door! I know of a few in my past that were particularly good at it and it kept them from ever getting caught by me.

[chainrated]

If you ever get the opportunity to run your dogs in a somewhat controlled environment like a 100 acre pen, do it. You will learn things about hogs and your dogs that you probably didn't want to know.. Them ol big boar hogs got big mostly because they are SMART..

[matt_aggie04]

I think it is crazy how they learn tricks like this and get away with it for a long time.  It also gets me just how many hogs will "squat" or lay down and the dogs just run right past him.  I have seen hogs do that in a 5 acre pen and grown dogs run right by him.  Makes you start to question how often that happens in the woods.

[chainrated]

A LOT..

[uglydog]

How many times you get close enough to the bay to see a boar bayed and they break before you catch him, then when thye bay again you send the catch dogs to find you have a hog of a different color?
Hard to tell when you hunt a place that has all black hogs, but I know it happens alot (has to me).
Thats why I question, when folks say my dog will stay bayed on the same hog it started for hours and hours, I have to laugh, cause if you are free ranging hunting and you dont haver ear tags in the hog, then how do you know its the same hog? I think hogs tag-team way more frequent then people want to admit.
Like said up above, Non believers go watch dogs work in a big wooded training pen, watch, observe and see what you see.

[cantexduck]

 Never thought of it that way.
  Dog runs a hog for mile(s) then gets it stopped. Yall are right. Highly doubt it is the same hog they started.

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

I think you would be surprised to see the difference in the results from a winding dog vs. a trail dog.   

[goose]

on the lease here by the house we have been after a big red boar for about 3 or 4 yrs...he is by far the smartest hog i have ever hunted...he only comes and stays around during deer season and usually leaves for good rite after turkey seaon when we start huntnig it again....he will take the dogs for long long loops to the river and back to the highway which is bout a mile east and west and then back north and south bout a mile eventually if the dogs stick with himnhe crosses the river and always swaps to a sounder...we have seen him numerous occassions crossing rds powerlines sandbars etc...and we run him mostly with july cur x's that are built with speed...have tried silent and open ruff and gritty 1 and 2 outs and whole pack outs rcd and lead in and jst cant get him to stop its amazing how they learn how to work their terrains to their advantage....used to run in a 40 acre wooded pen and there was a big sow that would always lay up in between the round bales and we would go sit rite on top of t and watch the dogs work and they would eventually trail back to the bales and bay rite uinder us that was pretty awesome got to where she did that so much we quit using the bales

[Cull Buck]

I think it is crazy how they learn tricks like this and get away with it for a long time.  It also gets me just how many hogs will "squat" or lay down and the dogs just run right past him.  I have seen hogs do that in a 5 acre pen and grown dogs run right by him.  Makes you start to question how often that happens in the woods.

Matt, Bryant came down and hunted with us a month or so ago.  The dogs bayed a hog in some thick cover so we sent in the CD's.  It broke, ran right towards bryant, and layed down about 5 feet from him in some thick stuff.  He froze and when one cur opened up on it he had a front row seat for the catch. 

[BarrNinja]

I think you would be surprised to see the difference in the results from a winding dog vs. a trail dog.   

I have seen it..............................and it did surprise me......... the 1st time.  

[BIG BEN]

Its happened a few times with me, Bob(Bigo) and David(Skoalbandit). The same hog each time.

[uglydog]

I don't doubt that some dogs will stick to the exact same hog they started, and its gonna be more frequent in a less hog populated area then in an area that has alot of hogs.  I hear it alot "they stayed on the same hog for miles and miles and took us "X" amount of hours to get to them". I believe some do, but I also know that in some areas they will run across or through other hogs and the dogs are going to stick with the easier hog, the dog will switch off, or jump another hog in the way.

How many think a dog can distinct the track of one hog from the other and will stay on the same track, rather than take a hotter stronger scent when the oppertunity prersents itself?

[Rockin-P-Ranch]

It happens to us down here about every fourth hunt. And as far as getting mad because they lose one that runs through a bunch of sows that dont bother me one little bite. But if he out runs them that would bother me.

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

How many think a dog can distinct the track of one hog from the other and will stay on the same track, rather than take a hotter stronger scent when the oppertunity prersents itself?

I not only think they can, I know they do.  The term used to describe the ability to differentiate between individuals within the same species while trailing is "To hue the line".  The most noted would be bloodhounds that track people.  They can tell the difference between individuals, yet stay with the sought after scent.  Different breeds of dogs have been bred to keep this trait mantianed.  Certain lines within the breed, are better at it than others.  Most coon hunters could care less if their bluetick had the ability, as they just want to tree coons.  They don't care if it is the first one they left trialing on or one they just stumbled upon.  However, often times biggame hunters like this trait as they trophy hunt.  This is where I like the trait.  If I place my blueticks on a specific track, generally speaking they will stay with that track.  They may flush other individuals, however, they stay after the "chosen" one.  However, when free cast, I think they just bay a hog, JMO though.  Seen it first hand plenty of times.  I can assure you, it is the gospel.

[cward]

I don't doubt that some dogs will stick to the exact same hog they started, and its gonna be more frequent in a less hog populated area then in an area that has alot of hogs.  I hear it alot "they stayed on the same hog for miles and miles and took us "X" amount of hours to get to them". I believe some do, but I also know that in some areas they will run across or through other hogs and the dogs are going to stick with the easier hog, the dog will switch off, or jump another hog in the way.

How many think a dog can distinct the track of one hog from the other and will stay on the same track, rather than take a hotter stronger scent when the oppertunity prersents itself?

I think a older dog would stay with the hog he started with verse's a young dog!!!  I think a hound would stay with single track more than a cur!!! Seen lots of hounds dang near run into a hog before they started to bay!! Seen curs set down on the outside of a thicket because they winded the hog in there before they seen him!!