So let's get real about Dogos...

[duece24]

The dogo price is supply and demand. When there are more good dogos out there the price will drop. Kinda like the blue pit bull. When they first hit the scene u couldn't get one for less than 1k now u can one for the same price as any other pit bull.

[raider54]

Raider, where do you see anyone bashing dogos? All I see is people sharing what they know and learned from experience... I don't see any kind of bashing going on. Unfortunately some people don't like the truth and get all wadded up about it... it's been a good discussion as far as i'm concerned.

Mike you havent seen any Dogo bashing on this thread? Really? I do think it has been a good discussion for the most part. I would go as far to say a few have bashed pits on the thread as well, its probably because everyone has to compare one to the other. Are you suggesting I am in denial and that I am wadded up? Because if you are you would be very wrong. I dont even own a purebred Dogo and never have.

[Peachcreek]

Man, this thread is crazy....

All in all I think this is a FORD VS. CHEVY VS. DODGE thang.

Ya get good a one then its good, if ya get a bad one its probably a Ford.. lol

If someone wants to buy a overpriced lincoln,Cadilac or Mercedes who cares.... REALLY

What ever makes ya happy...

[raider54]

Raider,

  I had a dogo with health and working(catch dog)  guarantee for 300 bucks. Breeder said don't even send me the money until the dog is a year or two old so that you can determine if he will work out. That is someone who is interested in the breed not the money. You will never see his dogs advertised and if they don't work out they darn sure won't have the opportunity to reproduce.

I agree with everything you said and my hat is off to a breeder like that, would you agree there are not alot of guys out there like that? Unfortunately!

[make-em-squeel]

Mike I actually dont know anyone who has bought a pit from one of those www..high $ pits, I was amazed a pit would cost that much unless it was out of a rare game line, shows what i know.   Out of the 3 dogos i owned one was free and culled and one was 200, the 200$ one would have made it but i was not patient enough....but dont regret my decesion, i wouldnt give a pit 18 mo to see if it was human agressive! The one I have now i paid 1k for from PPC, the hole experience makes me want to stick up for them b/c they lost $ on her to get her to a huning home, know there dogs inside and out 5 generations back etc, did a very similiar thing for a frend of mine to get his dog into a hunting home, guarateed the dog or they replaced it for me, basic stuff you expect from a reputable breeder or when you drop a grand on a pup....plus she is a great pet and very clean catching dog. I know when she is bred i am giving the pups away to my friends to keep the blood around before i sell any! I have however seen quite a few dogo crosses for pretty cheap, not sure! And FYI I like Pits, owned at least 10, However my opinion is that when comparing the good pits to the good AB's or Dogo's The later two have advantages as cd's, pets, and guard dogs. I cant wait until line breeding and culling makes them as easy to get as a pit! But for now  :'(

[Circle C]

Raider,

   Yes, I agree that those types of breeders are few and far between, however they are out there.   I think they have to feel comfortable with a person enough to know that you will not ruin all of their hard work.   I consider myself fortunate to have relationships with breeders of Dogo, Ab/Dogo, and Ab that all have similar views. If needed, it can put you in good blood, for reasonable money.  
  

[S_J_KENNELS]

(1) How many on this thread are feeding "pure" dogos,how many you have and how long you been foolin with them (the breed)?  and how many are actually catching with Dogo's regularly?

(2) Why is it you seem to see so many Dogo's crossed w/ AB'S or APBT's ? is it to "fix" something w/ the Dogo's or a monetary thing were no other dogo was available so the Dogo owner went w/ an AB or APBT ?

(3) To the Dogo ownwers/breeders what is your cull rate and how many did you go through to get the working ones you have (assuming that if you reply you are hunting the dogs)  

1) Right now I am feeding 4 dogos. I have been around and messing with the breed since '98 or '99. I hunt and have been hunting with mostly dogos since I started messing with them. I have said it in the past and will here again I do keep a good bulldog around due to being used as a brush weasel LOL.

2) I think the answer to this question is both. I know alot of folks and some who seem to frequent this board that think every dog has to be pit, ab, or have one or the other in it to be worth a damn. If it don't have pit or ab in it then it aint chit.  Then there are those who have a good male or female dogo with no accesss to a male or female dogo to bred to, but have the access to a pit or ab. Hence the cross.

3) I have not bred a litter as of yet. Of the 5 dogos I have owned I have not culled any. Two were rescues and I wished I had them from pups on. One came from a good buddy of mine who hunts all his dogos and of the litter I know mine came from only one or two were culled. I have two now I just got. One was hunted by a member on here for awhile. The other is a year old pup, and if she does not show me something soon will be the first dogo I will have culled.

[mex]

Man I guess I'm just being comical but having my broker license some would say Dogos are like getting in on Microsoft from the ground level.Dont kill me guys just dont see an end to these discussions!

[Circle C]

some would say Dogos are like getting in on Microsoft from the ground level.

Or Amway

Sorry, couldn't resist.

Speaking of MS at the ground level, how would you like to have about 10k shares with a $5.00 basis Some close friends began buying in the late 80's, MS has been good to them.

[sfboarbuster]

Is this the record for the longest thread or what?

I don't think I have ever even seen one of these "Dogos" you guys are talking about....

[Mike]

Paul, sorry, but unless I missed something I don't see anything I would call bashing.

John, I just looked at the stats... this thread is in the top 5.

[Circle C]

Top 5, but over two hundred posts from being the top thread.

Here is the top thread if you have a few days to waste reading it.
http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=8101.0

[Ladogos]

 I haven't had 40 litters and hunted a couple of dogos. I've had a handful of litters and hunted EVERY dogo in my kennel. The pups will be started in a few weeks.

What other dogo breeder even cares enough about the dogo to offer any info? I haven't seen any chime in!

I care enough to offer Info to anyone that really cares or want to listen  BUT ! ! ! !

I have been argueing these same topics on the internet longer than most people on here have even owned a dogo. Not bragging or no pun intended . BUT it just gets OLD , the same old arguments and the wheels keep turning.  It gets OLD real OLD . at least to me .  Thats why I havent chimed in.  I have owned dogos for about 18 years now and have had literally hundreds pass through my hands.   I have sold a few and given a few away, and even culled some, in one way or another for one reason or another.  If anyone REALLY wants to talk , DOGOS, HOGS< or just dogs in general , Hit me up and I will be glad to talk or discuess dogs , actually love it.   318-382-0303 But argueing on the internet , , well it gets old and even funny at times.  

The internet dosn't give the true sence of feeling or expression someone is trying to get across .  

Josh, I would have to say to you, I COMMEND you for what you have read and absorbed and what your goals are.  And what you invision, I also invision the same things and expect the same things out of my dogos. BUT with about 18 years of hunting Wild boar with Dogos I have learned a LOT. and I am still learning.  And I still try to be realistic.   In no way am I trying to call you out or make you look stupid or anything like that. I think some of the terms or words must be LOST  in translation.  Some of the thing you say/said about your dogs or dogos are funny to me.  Lets just say for example . " The dogo should even kill its pray if the human hunter doesnt make it to them "  I can agree with that only to an extent.  For several reasons. Say the hog I caught the other night. There is NO way in this worls would a  Dogo or 2 or even 3 killed that boar . NOT in this HEAT.  one of about 3-4 things would happen before they killed him,  1. HEAT EXHAUSTION, in this high humidity the dogos would over heat before they could kill this hog,  2. The hog fights a while BUT while fighting he would be trying to get away and run.  The hogs ears would rip off and then in those tie vines be gone and running off to the races.  3.  Or the boar would have them dogs cut down and toren up or even killed if the fight lasted for more than a few minutes.  Again would I want my dogos to have the mentality to become triumph in this situation ? SURE  i would, Do i breed for this type dog you explain ? SURE I do .  But again i am realistic .  And again I am not trying to ridicule you or your ways.  Just trying to explain a little of what my thoughts are . BUT Thats whay it would be eaisier to talk than type .  

And as I tell everyone I LOVE the Dogos . They are my preffered Dog of choice.  But there are good and bad in EVERY breed and a Cull or two or 5 in EVERY litter .  And the dogo as a breed is a great dog. If I didnt think so I would not have kept them for the last 18 or so years.  BUT they are not a great white unicorn from the hunting gods above.   No Breed is .  IMPO  

Anyone wanting to talk DOGOS or hogs and dogs, Give me a call .  Josh I would be glad to talk to you on the phone and maybe this would be easier for us to understand each others view points .

318-382-0303  Home
318-820-1383  Cell 

I hope this clears up some of these arguments.

Thanks,
Marvin Garrett

[Ladogos]

Any one want to try a Dogo pup out of an Adora and D'Angelo pairing? Just saying a person needs to evaluate the family the Dogo is coming from and know that there are very solid dogs behind them. If you don't do that first then nothing else matters whether they are free or expensive.

Hey Paul put me down for one or two of them . . .      Oh wait a minute. you have to do without Adora for about 4 months if your gonna ever get her breed . . . . .   

[UNDERDOG]

First,I am not a Dogo"hater" and really don't care about them one way or the other as I really am not one to tell others what ot feed and don't care what others feed if it makes them happy but since this thread is most all there is to read hear lately I will ask a coupple questions.

(1) How many on this thread are feeding "pure" dogos,how many you have and how long you been foolin with them (the breed)?  and how many are actually catching with Dogo's regularly?

(2) Why is it you seem to see so many Dogo's crossed w/ AB'S or APBT's ? is it to "fix" something w/ the Dogo's or a monetary thing were no other dogo was available so the Dogo owner went w/ an AB or APBT ?

(3) To the Dogo ownwers/breeders what is your cull rate and how many did you go through to get the working ones you have (assuming that if you reply you are hunting the dogs)  


Again,nothing against the Dogo as I stated before I have my own breed I like with it's own problems and challenges.
 

Been using them for 4 yrs, owned 3 culled 2 one was free and i got what i paid for, the other had human agression but hunted / caught great, not 2 mo. after going to my cousins she got over the human agression, she was 18 mo. old but it was to late to take the dog back. The one i am huntin now is great catches and holds very clean. So I am a rookie compard to most on this thread but have caught alot of hogs with dogos none the less,i have friends who use dogos regularly through the past 4 yrs and have hunted with a few more that were great dogs. Like all breeds of hog dogs i have seen, I have seen more dogos i would not feed vs ones i would feed. Hopefully us hunters change this, I am going to do my part, God willing.

All hog dogs are crossed up, there is no relavence to this statement....who know if they were not trying to impove upon the pit/ab/cat.??

I am not a breeder but if you can trace your dog back 5 generations and breed it to something similiar, your odds go up vs being a back yard breeder with pound puppies in my non-breeder opinion

(1) How many on this thread are feeding "pure" dogos,how many you have and how long you been foolin with them (the breed)?  and how many are actually catching with Dogo's regularly?

(2) Why is it you seem to see so many Dogo's crossed w/ AB'S or APBT's ? is it to "fix" something w/ the Dogo's or a monetary thing were no other dogo was available so the Dogo owner went w/ an AB or APBT ?

(3) To the Dogo ownwers/breeders what is your cull rate and how many did you go through to get the working ones you have (assuming that if you reply you are hunting the dogs)  

1) Right now I am feeding 4 dogos. I have been around and messing with the breed since '98 or '99. I hunt and have been hunting with mostly dogos since I started messing with them. I have said it in the past and will here again I do keep a good bulldog around due to being used as a brush weasel LOL.

2) I think the answer to this question is both. I know alot of folks and some who seem to frequent this board that think every dog has to be pit, ab, or have one or the other in it to be worth a damn. If it don't have pit or ab in it then it aint chit.  Then there are those who have a good male or female dogo with no accesss to a male or female dogo to bred to, but have the access to a pit or ab. Hence the cross.

3) I have not bred a litter as of yet. Of the 5 dogos I have owned I have not culled any. Two were rescues and I wished I had them from pups on. One came from a good buddy of mine who hunts all his dogos and of the litter I know mine came from only one or two were culled. I have two now I just got. One was hunted by a member on here for awhile. The other is a year old pup, and if she does not show me something soon will be the first dogo I will have culled.

Thanks two the two of you answering the post....thought there would be more...

[duece24]

1)I am running one pure dogo. I started hunting about 5 yrs ago and for the last four I have been dealing with dogos. They weren't mine. I was hunting with ushog and his dogos. Every time I turn out I take my dogo gyp with me.

2)I think u see a lot of crosses of the dogo cause people don't have the money to buy multiples. Getting ur gyp studded will run u a grip as well. From what I've seen it runs more than getting a pair of breeding pips

3)I have only ownee two. One I bought from a guy on here and I made a bad voice in buying her. I couldn't be told anything about her parents or about the line she came from. She was sold as a pet and is now in great hands. The second one is young but has several woods catches under her belt. Hopefully she keeps progressing.

[UNDERDOG]

2)I think u see a lot of crosses of the dogo cause people don't have the money to buy multiples. Getting ur gyp studded will run u a grip as well. From what I've seen it runs more than getting a pair of breeding pips
.

So wouldn't that be doing an injustice to the Dogo by crossing them as what if more carless folks breed these crosses and pawn them off as Dogos?

[UNDERDOG]

 I culled a AB/Dogo pup of mine because he wasnt as far along as my other one. Sold him as a pet for $1400 people like the dogs because they are big and pretty and great natured. I have yet to run into anyone that buys a pitbull because they are good natured.

Atleast you ain't in it for the money    1400 bucks for a cull/pet......

If you haven't run into anyone who buys a APBT because they are good natured tells me you don't know that breed very well. (repectfully)

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

Great post Marvin.

 

[leonriverboy]

I keep reading the excuse that the Dogo is a "new breed" wasn't this breed started in the 1920's?  That doesn't sound very new to me.  You would think after 90 years they could get the problems worked out.  Money does matter I have had several great pits and have never paid over 100.00 for any of them.  I have owned 100's of dogs and the most affectionate are the pits by far.