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Author Topic: When does the Catchdog let go?  (Read 3431 times)
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« on: September 05, 2008, 01:56:06 pm »

Just out of curiousity, and never given much thought to this not that it really makes any difference anyways...

On you all's catchdogs, will they turn loose when the hog is dead or stay caught?  Zeus stays caught until I break him off, or sometimes its easier just to cut the ear off.  When the hog is dead, he gets a little more "shaky" with it, and wanting to get a better bite but he won't turn loose.  Sometimes like yesterday evening when I'm in water or mud and working by myself, he can be a real chore to get off and out of the way.
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« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2008, 02:03:40 pm »

our bulldogs used to be hell to break off, but buddy and prince seem to be getting easier and easier with each hog they catch, i think yelling dead hog or caught hog everytime you break em off might help, then again, who knows? they are bulldogs they have minds of their own sometimes, lol.
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« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2008, 02:17:19 pm »

Meathead and Tyson both have to be pulled off the hog. I cannot tell them to let go, pretty much have to use a break stick, or choke them off. Live hog, dead hog, it makes no difference.
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« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2008, 02:25:11 pm »

i like the blowin in their ear technique, i know i thought it was crazy when i first heard about it but i tried it and it worked  Shocked ive been doin it ever since i only had one dog ever that it wouldnt work on
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« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2008, 02:37:55 pm »

Can also grab both flanks of the dog, it is unnatural and weird feeling and will usually cause them to let go and turn around to look at thier rear ends.
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« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2008, 02:43:57 pm »

"Out", then maglite if necessary.
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« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2008, 02:49:12 pm »

I may be in the minority here, but I don't want a catch dog, that I can call off of being caught with a command.  flanking them, blowing in the ear, break stick, etc all sound good to me, but no verbal commands for me.
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« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2008, 02:50:43 pm »

I mostly use the "cut the ear off" method myself. They aint letting go no matter what.

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« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2008, 03:09:56 pm »

I'm not complaining that I have to break him off (and not that easily, either)....I would have it no other way.

What I'm curious about, is whether or not others catchdogs let go once the hog is dead, or stand there with a carcas in their mouth.  Smiley
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« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2008, 03:21:20 pm »

on our catch dogs we break them off. we tie every hog down, so I dont want a dog
letting go  by hollering out. never heard of the blowing in the ear thing...  
 
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« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2008, 03:40:35 pm »

Yea I came up with that one. The first hog I got with a pitt the guy told me to do that, and thinking back on it I think he was messing with me to see if I would do it or not, maby or maby not I don't know but I did it and it worked good. That was the only time I ever did it and probably wont do it again. I keep getting vision of getting bit in the face. He was from the eastern oklahoma area maby thats the way thay do it over in that area. Undecided
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« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2008, 03:41:03 pm »

Gotta break him off.  Wont have it any other way.  The harder to break the better.
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« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2008, 05:46:58 pm »

I see alot of them shake, pull and let go after the hog is dead. Which is fine by me, as long as they are caught solid until the hog is under control.


I always choke them off. I leave 1" collar up at the top of the neck and pull straight up... eventually they will release to take a breath. Some may take a little longer than others... but any catch dog will come off like this.

I gave up on using break sticks because I always lost mine! Grin

The blowing in the ear does work... Krystal showed me on Cliiford last year. Shocked
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« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2008, 07:39:27 am »

wonder how many hunters are gonna be blowing in pitbulls ears this weekend now? lol
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« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2008, 10:06:00 am »

I agree with you Circle C ,  I would NEVER want a catch dog to let go on command or any other meathod except , breakstick or cut the ear.    That way i have no second guesses about it when im going in to leg one. Especially if someone new is hunting with me or there is other comotions going on and the dog hears some one hollering at a different dog or whatever and thinks it is time for " him " to let go .
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« Reply #15 on: September 07, 2008, 10:55:07 am »

My white dog dosnt trun loose has to be choked off. My little pit will turn loose and start chewing on it once we have stuck it and it dosnt move any more. Really dosnt matter to me as long as they are there when they are needed.
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« Reply #16 on: September 07, 2008, 12:42:01 pm »

I've always used a breakstick.....but hunted with a few that used the same pull up on the collar method as Mike said and that seemed to work great as well.  Could never understand why some would smack their dog with a flashlight or fist to break them off.........They teach their dog to catch and then in a split second punish it for doing what it was taught.....I dont believe any good catch dog should have the "lightswitch" speed to turn on and off with a verbal command......and at the same time shouldn't be struck to let go of what he is suppose to be caught on......
just my 2 cents.....
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2008, 12:48:17 pm »

I use a "Dead Hog" command and then "Load Up". Too lazy to lead dogs in or out, especially when you went in on hands and knees. Sad
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« Reply #18 on: September 07, 2008, 03:59:22 pm »

  Could never understand why some would smack their dog with a flashlight or fist to break them off.........They teach their dog to catch and then in a split second punish it for doing what it was taught.....I dont believe any good catch dog should have the "lightswitch" speed to turn on and off with a verbal command......and at the same time shouldn't be struck to let go of what he is suppose to be caught on......
just my 2 cents.....


My thoughts as well.   It shows a person's ignorance to do something like that.  It is quite simple and harmless to "choke off" or us a break stick. 
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« Reply #19 on: September 07, 2008, 09:45:12 pm »

  Could never understand why some would smack their dog with a flashlight or fist to break them off.........They teach their dog to catch and then in a split second punish it for doing what it was taught.....I dont believe any good catch dog should have the "lightswitch" speed to turn on and off with a verbal command......and at the same time shouldn't be struck to let go of what he is suppose to be caught on......
just my 2 cents.....


My thoughts as well.   It shows a person's ignorance to do something like that.  It is quite simple and harmless to "choke off" or us a break stick. 


You shouldn't be smacking them to not catch,,, should be smacking them for not listening when you say to stop catching. There is a big difference.
When done right you can have a dog with a good handle, when done wrong you can ruin a good catch dog.

Wether you use your hand, boot, lead, shock collar, ect... it should be done to re-inforce to some thing the dog already knows to do or not do. That applies to children also. You can't just beat them if they do some thing wrong but have never been taught its wrong. That is true ignorance.
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