CD X's

[Crib]

In a conversation with a friend he said that some hunters he was talking to swear by using Bulldog x spaniels. Says they make the best CDs and been using them for years. Anyone here use these or know of anyone who uses em or something similar?

Thanks

[gutpile]

I have heard of pit/GSHPointer. Once had a guy tell me that his family used pure breed labradors as CATCH dogs. I had to have him repeat that one to me!

[raider54]

In a conversation with a friend he said that some hunters he was talking to swear by using Bulldog x spaniels. Says they make the best CDs and been using them for years. Anyone here use these or know of anyone who uses em or something similar?

Thanks

I dont know about spaniel X's but Ive been doing pretty good with a bulldog/Dogo X......lol.....Just kidding buddy

Honestly I think if it aint broke dont fix it, there is a reason people primarily use Pitts and AB's

[make-em-squeel]

heard alot about the pointer/bull cross...if kept on a lead straight catch, if hunted real gritty outlaw cur type dog. Never heard of the spanial but probably close to the pointer. Just talkd to a guy who swears by his aeirdale/pit cross.

[zachW]

I had a guy swear to me i need to cross my pits with labs, he was really drunk so i was not shore how serious he was being, but wouldnt the dog loose its ability to hold if your cross them, whats wrong with just a pit? why do you want to cross them

[rdjustham]

Ive hunted behind some GSP males that were grittier than some CDs ive had and ive heard of guys crossing bulldogs into their GSPs

[Crib]

In a conversation with a friend he said that some hunters he was talking to swear by using Bulldog x spaniels. Says they make the best CDs and been using them for years. Anyone here use these or know of anyone who uses em or something similar?

Thanks

I dont know about spaniel X's but Ive been doing pretty good with a bulldog/Dogo X......lol.....Just kidding buddy

Honestly I think if it aint broke dont fix it, there is a reason people primarily use Pitts and AB's

LOL...thats fine, I agree with you.

[Crib]

I had a guy swear to me i need to cross my pits with labs, he was really drunk so i was not shore how serious he was being, but wouldnt the dog loose its ability to hold if your cross them, whats wrong with just a pit? why do you want to cross them

Oh, I dont want to cross mine. I breed pure old bloodline bulldogs, foundation stock of the Ab breed. None of that short winded mastiffy stuff most people use. I had a hard time believeing that someone would actually use a spaniel. Kind of like using a poodle, so I thought I would ask. Speaking of that, you know poodles used to be sport dogs, and good ones too... from what I read.

These guys wanted a do it all catch dog. They said the spaniel adds nose.

[uglydog]

Crib, what kind of foundation AB stock do you have?

[Purebreedcolt]

I can see y some do not want a pit or a full pit they have a bad rep.  I don't want one.  Really wander if the guy u were talking to did not mean one of the pointers gsp. 

[Crib]

Crib, what kind of foundation AB stock do you have?

Pure Hines, Pure Stover, Linebred Family white english from the pan handle and inbred Sgt Rock (No Kershner/Tappe/S.E.) etc etc. One of my gyps is down with my bud Scott. She just had a litter with a male shipped over from florida. He's a prven catchdog. I also shipped him Cane couple years back. The lil gyp I just got from Joe Painter and his son is Cane's niece. His sister was bred back to an inbred Sgt Rock male. I know people have their questions about Abs foundational or no, but I had all mine DNA'd and spoke with the geneticist. They live up to their repuatation and throw themselves. I had to search high and low to find them.

[uglydog]

I would like to see some pics and see how consistent your type is, if you have time to share.

I am partial to the AB, but not the Johnson or beefed up dogs.

[Crib]

Petey II















Pete's dam, Scarlet
http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/dogs/american_bulldog/pedigree/967735.html

Dyme

[Crib]

Gi-Gi (8 mons)


Son of Pete bred to a hybrid female (> 1 year)



Pete's brother Zeke


Pete's sister Molly


Dyme's Dam, baby Girl


Dyme's brother Ben

[Purebreedcolt]

Dang like dogs with no tail those are nice

[Miller Lite]

How do i get ahold of one of them beast lol

[leonriverboy]

Hey Crib I really like petey II can you tell us more about him?  Speed? Disposition? How he catches? Listens? Etc.  Thanks.

[wateverworks]

Like your bulldogs Crib,  my dad use to raise them and catch with them, and he used Hines stuff.  We would go to Mr. Hines when I was just a little boy and get dogs from him.  He crossed them with a big mountain curr for some really ruff grain field dogs.

[Crib]

Thanks for the kind words guys

Pete is very athletic, when I took him out with Mitch and Howard June 09' he was just over 1 year old (Feb 09). He had been put on hogs but not with bay dogs. So we hit the 1st bay, We listened to see if the hog had been fully stopped then Mitch told me to go get Petey, he was the only bulldog we had brought. So I got him from off the four wheeler and wlked him in. he heard that bay and zero on to it. He pulled but not uncontrollably and if I decided on a better path he came along without much trouble. The hog was in a dried up creek bed.  Once we saw him looking at the hog we cut him loose. He took a couple bounds a leaped off the ledge, esimated a 7 or 8 ft drop, landed on all fours and used the recoil from the landing to launch into the hog. I had to drag the hog, him and six San Jacinto hogdogs out of that creek bed. Then had to break him off the head and drag him away or he'd use his front legs to reel the hog back in. Funny thing was he'd never been on a four wheeler before that day and stayed on it like he was glued to it. They said the bulldogs they usually use would keep fallin off.

I produced Pete, origianlly has was the payment for his dam, Scarlet. The person i sent him too could keep him (financial reasons etc) so i went to get him back. She told me she was concerned b/c in the concrete kennel he was in with 10 ft high metal fencing, he was jumping to the top of the fence from a standing position and she didnt want him to come down wrong and injure himself.

Disposition, He is a dominat/Alpha personality, he does get along with other dogs, but will sometimes challenge them and will not back down from a challenge. Most of this is exposure IMO. He is a balanced dog and is deceptively fast when he gets after something and can change direction to stay on target. He will bite a sleeve if you ask him to, but he doesnt know anything about malice intent so its all play to him. He has great heat tolerance and bites extremely hard which are bloodline characteristics these dogs throw. He'll try to catch anything you tell him. His dam caught cattle as a job and woods hogs for a hobby. He always catches on the head and doesnt change holds. You will have to make him rebite then pull him away, but he'll keep the hog from swinging towards you when he's on.


He is head strong, but smart and will listen with a little training. Dyme is more of the "point your finger the 1st time" type and she'll go do it. Dyme was actually used like a running catchdog once. It was the 1st time she'd done it that way. I pointed her out and said go get the hog, she took off and ran threw the logs and underbrush seemingly without changing speed, tight roped fallen trees, just real athletic. She only stopped to wind scent then found the baydog that was cut loose and followed in right behind him. When the baydog found the hog she was right there with him and nailed the hog str8 on when the baydog slowed him down abit.

[Crib]

Like your bulldogs Crib,  my dad use to raise them and catch with them, and he used Hines stuff.  We would go to Mr. Hines when I was just a little boy and get dogs from him.  He crossed them with a big mountain curr for some really ruff grain field dogs.

Thats cool, 

Scarlet's Grandpa is Hobo. Her sire Petey (RIP) is where my Pete gets his name and looks. He ran the Texas Valley hunts and would catch in the heat. He was a good sized dog that could move and had great wind. He was 89 lbs skin and bone. Scott P helped me put him on a hog when I got him. I ended up placing him with Mike Margentina (Owner of Sgt Rock) when I had Scarlet coming in.

You have any pics of your dads dogs? Feel free to post em.