Bandog/Bandogge.....

[ftwdogo]

Well i was wondering if anyone has experience with bandogs. Been reading about them and thought this would be a great place to get thoughts on it as there is alot of wisdom here on this site that has taught me alot... Thanks in advance!!!!!

[BigAinaBuilt]

I would question it's size and stamina but they definately could anchor a hog down.

[River Ridge]

I would also question their stamina and heat tolerance, but then again my knowledge is limited.

[Cull Buck]

I had to google what a bandog was....never heard of one until today.  Just from looking at the pics it looks like a heat stroke waiting to happen IMO.

[La Historia Dogo]

It is essentially a pit crossed with a mastiff, so I am sure that there would be some in the litter that would physically fit the need, but they are crossed to have a more agile protection dog, so it may have man aggression.

[dub]

"The American Canine Hybrid Club recognizes the American Bulldog crossed with a Mastiff as an American Bandogge. The Designer Dogs Kennel Club recognizes the American Bulldog crossed with the Mastiff as the American Masti-Bull. See origin below for more details." (http://www.dogbreedinfo.com/americanbandoggemastiff.htm) I guess if it was a working bulldog it may work. But which Mastiff? The Dogo is also called the Argentine Mastiff. So is the AB/Dogo a Bandogge? Seems to me a version is already being used and doing well. It would have to be a working line of AB and a good Mastiff. But if it has pit it is not a Bandogge.

[Crib]

Any type of matisff can be used. Neo, DDB, English Msft (EM), St Brnd, Grt dane, Bull Mstf (BM) you name it. Havent seen any Corso/Abs yet, but im sure you'll see them soon enough. And it'll be the next big thing since sliced bread just like the rest of them were.

[raider54]

Modern breed description
Many people believe these dogs to be the perfect protection dog and working class guard dogs. Various programs have used American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, and Neapolitan Mastiff crosses. A few programs have also used other bully type breeds as well as other mastiff type breeds. Regardless of which program a breeder selected, breeding dogs for guarding purposes requires selection of dogs suitable for that work. Dogs were bred from strains that have the temperament and phenotype, to do home guardian or personal protection. The Bandog is a rugged dog, heavily boned and muscled, intimidating when seen and is ferocious when provoked. Bandogs of all types are strictly working dogs and should be a result of serious and dedicated planning, starting from careful selection of parent breeds and more importantly, appropriate representatives of those breeds, with the health and temperament testing being on the top of the list of priorities, while the uniformity in appearance is the last of the breeders' concerns. The intention in each case is to combine the courage and tenacity of an American Pit Bull Terrier with the large size and guarding instinct of a Mastiff.

The breed ideal is a broad skull, a strong muzzle that is medium to long muzzle depending on the strain, wide shoulder, a powerful chest, great agility, and overall an intelligent and very well controlled dog

There is a difference between the Bandogge and the American Bandogge! this description is a quote from Wikipedia Breed Standards!
The Bandogge is 1/2 Pit or Staff and 1/2 NEO Mastiff. American Bandogge is 1/2 AB and any Mastiff breed!

[duece24]

The first bandog was created using a neo mastiff and hammonds bre pit bull. The bandog originally was created as a catchweight fighting dog. Catchweight meaning take it off the chain and pit it. They showed not to be as good as they thought it would be so they strted using them as personal protection. They used the neo because the Noe has a general nasty attitude towards people that they deal weak. Which is why they don't make great pets. The pit was used to put gamness in them. The neo has been bred for a better temperament now.

As a catchdog I would think they would overheat. But the ones that were more pitbull body type would be okay

[Crib]

No the 1st bandog was the Swinford back in the twenties. Gary Hammnds wasnt even born then. Thats of course, if you want to rule out the fact that these types of crosses happen in the old blood sport days, they just didnt assign specifc names for the crosses.

[NThoghunter]

Not going to get into the "bandog" debate.  But i did have a mastiff/pit cross i rescued once.  He was one of the best CD's i have ever started.  Quick learner, well mannered, and could lock down good!  Not sure about how he would handle heat only had him in cool weather but handled fine in that climate.  Unfortunately his life was cut short by a mean sob boar, before he had the chance to really shine.  I would jump on another if given the opportunity again...  just my .02

[Crib]

Not going to get into the "bandog" debate.  But i did have a mastiff/pit cross i rescued once.  He was one of the best CD's i have ever started.  Quick learner, well mannered, and could lock down good!  Not sure about how he would handle heat only had him in cool weather but handled fine in that climate.  Unfortunately his life was cut short by a mean sob boar, before he had the chance to really shine.  I would jump on another if given the opportunity again...  just my .02

Im sure you will. Everyone and their cousin is breeding them. They are very easy to find.

[American Sentinel K9]

Most "bandogs" by name are not suitable for hog hunting, as many people breeding "bandogs" aren't really doing so. The bandog is supposed to be a performance bred dog, but most think it is just any ole bull dog breed crossed with any ole' mastiff...but historically speaking, a true bandog is more than that.

If a bandog is bred correctly, one produces a true bandog...and that type of dog does indeed make a great catch dog.

See this link for more details... http://www.americanbandoggemastiff.com/catchdogs.htm

http://www.americanbandog.com/Boss%20Hogs2.jpg

[American Sentinel K9]

Sorry, above was suppose to be a picture...

No the 1st bandog was the Swinford back in the twenties. Gary Hammnds wasnt even born then. Thats of course, if you want to rule out the fact that these types of crosses happen in the old blood sport days, they just didnt assign specifc names for the crosses.

This is incorrect. Swinford himself wasn't born in the twenties. His John B. Swinford's (DVM) program existed from the mid 1960's until November of 1971, when he died. Although a few people kepts his program going after his death for approximately a decade, his program did eventually fade away.

http://swinfordbandog.com

[Deepforkhogger]

I have one and love him he is very quick bout 85 pounds never regrips very smart! Not saying this is common in the breed.

[LTcaughthog]

Best CD I ever seen was pit/mastiff.. My uncle owned him at the end of his prime.. He was still a beast. RIP AXLE

[American Sentinel K9]

Chimera's Little Hurtin on a hog...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa1AgtMqUOk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsu5iqRlCrM

[Fixitlouie]

Got a pup corso and a presa on the way

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[w00dy]

I was in the market a while back at looking Neo Mastiffs and Bandoges and Lindsay Tornabene (Tornabene Bandogge Mastiffs) has a great stock. Her stock is proven in PP. But I am sure they can do work in the field.

[MrsLouisianaHogDog]

I would recommend that only people that can maintain a firm hand aquire one of these types. They consist of strong willed, hard headed breeds that can make for a bad situation if owned by someone who is too passive or let's the dog run the household.