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« on: July 20, 2010, 12:15:57 pm »

I have been hunting my ranch alot more with dogs here the last couple of years and was just noticing here lately that I dont see nearly as much coyote sign/scat. The fawn crop this year is ten times what it has been in the last couple of years. And it got me to thinking that maybe with running the dogs out here more that the coyotes are not coming into the ranch like they used to be. A couple of years ago you couldnt drive the roads out here with out seein coyote crap all over the road. But running the dogs every time they smell or see any coyote sighn they stop and mark it with there own. Do y'all think this might be helping with the coyote problems also? Huh?
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« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2010, 12:19:57 pm »

Its possible. But we had another yote join in with our dogs the other night. Second time this has happened.
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« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2010, 12:34:46 pm »

I have a lot more either join in a bay or decoy my dogs to the pack than I see run away...
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« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2010, 01:06:55 pm »

We had a pack of yotes break a bay on a big hog ended up dogs come back to us with tails between their legs it was kinda weird but them yotes were raising all sorts of heck yipping and howling
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« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2010, 01:15:33 pm »

One of the places we have been hunting for years has alot of yotes and they know that when we are thee with the dogs that means free meals. Thaey have learned to follow us and get in with the dogs, come to bays and have had them get after our dogs on several occasions.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2010, 01:25:53 pm »

I know it detours them to an extint. Im sure in some areas it isnt going to matter because the population is so dense...but I believe in many areas it does. They do not like the other dogs and presense of other dominant canines.

I know of two ranches that we consistantly hunt where the governmant trapper has had a major decline in trapping numbers. Im sure this is a regional issue.
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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2010, 01:34:17 pm »

Im not sure how dogging affects the yots but I know how they can affect the dogging. They have broken more than one bay or a race for me!
I would love to catch one joining the bay but it hasn’t happened yet. Evil
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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2010, 02:49:39 pm »

I think yotes are highly intelligent and adaptive predators. In one area they may have come to fear dogs and will shy away from locales with heavy dog scent. In other areas, dogs may mean a scource of food. So they could welcome the scent of dogs. I think they are too variable to make any kind of blanket statement about how they will react to hog dogging. Just a guess.
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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2010, 04:22:51 pm »

Every time i go to one of my places i have a female yote fallow us around yappin and carry'n on.  Last time i was the she was headed to the bay and i seen her so we cut one of the catch dogs loose on her but there was just no way in hell he was gonna catch her. Have also had them follow my gyps around in the woods.
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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2010, 04:28:40 pm »

I think yotes are highly intelligent and adaptive predators. In one area they may have come to fear dogs and will shy away from locales with heavy dog scent. In other areas, dogs may mean a scource of food. So they could welcome the scent of dogs. I think they are too variable to make any kind of blanket statement about how they will react to hog dogging. Just a guess.

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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2010, 05:49:42 pm »

Coyotes will break a bay or attack the dogs when they have a den of babies close by. They do this when they feel threatened or when they feel the dogs have over stepped their boundaries. This happened to us and we thought it was because of a den and we looked around and found it.
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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2010, 07:16:54 pm »

last time i saw a yote cross a road i cut the catch dog loose..........
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2010, 07:20:12 pm »

Only if you are as good of shot as Circle C!! Grin
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« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2010, 08:55:24 pm »

    When we have large numbers of hogs in our area, we also have large numbers of coyotes. As we put pressure on the hog population and they move on, so do the coyotes. Reading history the wolves use to follow the huge herds of buffalo, think the coyotes do the same with hogs.
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« Reply #14 on: July 20, 2010, 09:19:47 pm »

We got a dog that dislikes yotes really bad, he will go bay/catch one if its close and no hogs around. We send the Greyhound x Cat to go back him up, it sure is a pretty sound when he gets there  Grin
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« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2010, 11:08:25 pm »

Most of the sheep ranchers that have protection dogs with the sheep say, if they get a chance they will kill the yote, but it's more of a territorial threat than anything else. I see no reason hog dogs couldn't have the same affect if they are in the area enough.
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« Reply #16 on: July 21, 2010, 12:38:00 am »

We got a dog that dislikes yotes really bad, he will go bay/catch one if its close and no hogs around. We send the Greyhound x Cat to go back him up, it sure is a pretty sound when he gets there  Grin

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« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2010, 12:35:12 pm »

They have been coming to our dogs bayed a lot in the last 2 years. They will definintely mess up a bay and make a hog break and mess the dogs up. My buddy snared a few and introduced our bulldogs to them. Now when we hear one come in on the dogs we unsnap the bulldog.. You would be surprised how quick a bulldog can put an end to a yappin coyote if he gets close enough..
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