Seeking advince on puppy.....

[matt_aggie04]

I know this goes in the dog doctor section but I am needing a large number of opinions and this is the place to go to get eyes on the subject.

I have a pup that was born on May 6th that has me puzzled.  When they were 2-3 weeks old they whole litter had a bout with Coccidiosis and I hit them with albon and it cleared right up.  About 9 weeks of age I had gotten rid of all the pups but her and her sister and she started having a loose stool and losing a little weight.  I hit her with albon again but nothing.  After a few days I carried her to the vet and they ran a battery test and the only thing that showed was Coccidosis and they told me to continue albon for 14 days.  I did that and the whole time she has not made a turd.  I have fed her raw meat which she loves and continue to do so.  She has a good appetite, drinks water well and has energy ad the desire to go like I really wan to see in a pup but she looks like hell to put it mildly!  She will be 13 weeks old on thursday and I am at a loss.  I love the pup and how she acts but I don't know what to do for her and I cant help but think this is going to lead to something else she wont be able to shake and death.  Anyone ever dealt with this or something similar? 

She is the red pup...

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

What and how long ago did  you worm her with?  Have you given her yogurt for a week straight?

[matt_aggie04]

I have wormed her every two weeks since birth and sometimes more frequently than that.  I have used Strongid T and Safe Guard.  She also tested negative for any worms when I took her to the vet.

[charles]

 as cutter bay said, i was gonna ask the same thing. not insulting ur intelegance, but r u sure she has'nt pooed yet? she may be eatin it, i hav a common name calld to dogs, a turd hound b/c he will 8 out of 10 times eat his own poo but i know he has pooed and have watch him lay it on the ground and turn around and eat it. i would like to know how to stop him from doin it.

[matt_aggie04]

She would need a straw.....I have all my dogs off the ground on wood and her stool like about like chicken broth.  I am not talking about yogart type loose stool I mean very very watery.  When she goes number 2 it looks like your pushing water out a syringe.  I am going to get some probiotic today to put on her food as well but I was hoping the raw hamburger meat would have enough bacteria in it to get things working again but no such luck.  

[LionandBoarHunter]

matt has it had any blood in it

[uglydog]

Matt when you get tired of her just send that scawny thing to me, I might not can fix her but I think if she does make it through she will be a tough little girl with all the right tools to be a realdeal hog dog.

[matt_aggie04]

No sir, I paid an extra 40 dollar to have her checked for parvo too and it was clear.  She has also had two rounds of shots by now.  My vet has even suggested taking some stool samples and sending them to A&M because she really doesn't have an answer either.  If she was down and not real active I would have already put her down, that is how bad she looks.  I just don't have the heart to quite on her since she is so acitve and full of energy.

[matt_aggie04]

I have also tried to give her immodium with no success and I feed her free choice dog food and a pound of hamburger meat a day, she would eat two pounds I think if I gave it to her haha.  I may have the only dog with IBS haha

[Mike]

Maybe she built up an immunity to the Albon and it's not working... take her to Doc Merry.

[hogcatcher]

This is whatI would do to the puppy.  First I would take her off the raw meat that sometimes leads to lose stool.  Then i would start feeding her a dog food that is high in fat like 15 or 20 percent maybe even a little more than that.  Start feeding her a pound or two a day.  If she gets the squirts again try spectam scour hault for pigs on her or even the clear injectable.   

[chainrated]

It sounds like you have done all the usual things to cure most problems with pups. I would feed her as much as she wanted to eat every day and if she doesn't put on some weight in a few days I would try getting a second vets opinion..

[BarrNinja]

Matt when you get tired of her just send that scawny thing to me, I might not can fix her but I think if she does make it through she will be a tough little girl with all the right tools to be a realdeal hog dog.

x2 If she makes it she will be a very robust dog!

Matt, I think Cutter Bay is on to something with the yogurt! I have had a whole litter of pups with the same issue and nothing would help. I had already figured they would all die because the vet visit had me completely discouraged.
I had a lady that has run a dog rescue for over 25 years tell me to feed them plain yogurt for a week. All she said was that it usually straightens there tummies out. I thought “what the heck” and tried it. It worked like a dream! Within two weeks they were completely healthy and back to a normal weight. I feed it to all of my pups when they scour up or cant put on weight and it always works.
I am not sure why or how it works but the live cultures in the yogurt seem to kick start the good bacteria of a dogs digestive tract.
The pup that was worse off than the others ended up being the biggest and the best of the whole litter and one of my best all time dogs.

It’s worth a try anyway.

[matt_aggie04]

I went by the vet and got some probiotic powder and I remebred I had some frozen George Forman grled chicken in the freezer. I came by and fed her a chicken breast and a daily dose of that powder so we will see if that helps. I am going to get some plain yogurt as well since from what I understand you can't give too much good bacteria. I really think it has to have something to do with her digestive tract. 

[Cutter Bay Kennels]

It’s worth a try anyway.

Matt,  the Ninja's words are good advise on yogurt. I should add though, it will make her ears low set, as well as make her open on track.

Oh heck, the last part was a lie. Good luck with her. I'd call her nails. She'll be tough as one if she makes it.

[Rockin-P-Ranch]

Matt I agree with with the yogurt. Somthing is going on with the digesting of food so the bacteria in the yogurt should help this. We will send a bill at a later date.LOL

[Monteria]

I was going to ask about Parvo too. I have seen it show positive on a coccidia test..... Or maybe that was the other way around, but I don't think so.

Could it be a negative reaction to the parvo boosters? They are a modified live virus (I think) which, I would assume, could have taken hold of a poor immune system weakened by coccidiosis and show a false negative.

That is thinking WAY outside the box, but I agree that yogurt would be worth a shot. Maybe all she needs is a little digestion help to counteract the result of coccidiosis.

[matt_aggie04]

I have read more than I care to about Coccidosis as a result of this pup and everything I have come across says that after two weeks of albon the good bacteria is all but gone in a pups digestive tract.  For some reason when she had this second flare up it has just been twice as bad but I can see if there was a compounding effect of the Coccs and the lack of bacteria where she has gotten this poor.  I think the next week of chicken and yogurt and powder will tell me it is something I can fix.

[bigo]

  Give the pup panacure or valbazen for five days. Make the dose a little smaller than what you would worm with. Mix some butter milk with the yogert and mix it with her feed, all she will eat of it. I've had this clear up some very sick pups that were doing the same as yours.

[gutpile]

Maybe she built up an immunity to the Albon and it's not working... take her to Doc Merry.
Try corid instead of albon I have had just as much success with it.