Dogo breeders

[Scott]

Back home in Florida, we go to the woods to "catch" hogs not to hunt them. Those white dogs have been doing just that for centuries.

Which "white dogs" have been doing it for centuries?

[warrent423]

Back home in Florida, we go to the woods to "catch" hogs not to hunt them. Those white dogs have been doing just that for centuries.

Which "white dogs" have been doing it for centuries?

In Florida , our old english whites (web) in particular, which are in fact direct descendants of the Alanos(shepards mastiff/spanish alaunt cross). Not saying we use dogos in particular, but the Web's were used to build those Argentina dogs. Us "crackers" were smart enough to breed enough old english white into our lines of curs to where we did not need to carry a Bulldog.

[Scott]

10-4, I know all about the WEB

[Lone Star 88]

Go here to find out about the W.E.B. http://bttbab.com/kaolin_kennels.htm

[gottagettem]

sorry to intrude.. but if yall believe in the dogo. so much... why do u want an arm and leg for a pup?  yall say how every one hates.. on dogos.. cause they dont have them .. but if we try to get one it cost so much.....for a pure bread....and its a pup... it could be a cull or a dam good dog... dont know till it gets older... but if u charge alot. for them then the people that want one.. wont buy it cause of the cost......i know if u really want one u will break down and get what u want.....but to pay for a pup.. just say five hundred...... that pup will sit there till u think it is time for him to start.. training..... and if u are trying to start a pack .. of them then do the math..... i love hunting dogs.... and the risk of one gettin killed in action is always there... but i u make the dogo..sell for a cheaper price... and give more people the chance to own one... yall wouldnt have that many haters.....me myself would like to get a few for a pack sum day....but im not going to waste over a thousand dollars for just two pups....and then have to wait for them to get big enough to hunt... and then take a chance of one getting killed......and taking a step back in getting a pack..... i know everyone love their dog ....and thinks highly of them but to price them.. so high.. that average people cant get the chance to own one... and add it to their pack is ... stupid....... and dont even get me into half bread dogos........in my opinion... if u have a half dogo half what ever... u cant say much about anything... cause u hvae a half bread..... not a full blooded....... but if yall breaders would give a cheaper price for the dogo.. and give people a chance to own one and train it to hunt how they hunt.... maybe people would have a better opinion on them...... i dont own one... but ive been pricing them... and that is way yall will always have this fight between bulldogs pits and dogos......jmo..... but i am willing to buy a few for a cheap price...but dont think that will happen...u can trash me about this allday.. i dont care... i just think there wouldnt be  arguing if they didnt cost so .. and people would have a different opinion.. if they had a chance to own one.....

[Scott]

Go here to find out about the W.E.B. http://bttbab.com/kaolin_kennels.htm

And then you have to separate fact from fantasy...

[dub]

gottagettem I understand you point. That is why I have to see the parents hunt and then get the hearing checked. But I have been trying to get really good curs! The people with the best curs won't sell one for anything. I have wasted too much money on culls. I am just plain sick of it. I am trying to get dogs so I can go hog hunting. THAT IS ALL I WANT! But you have the people hocking dogs that ain't worth a poop. The Dogos take time but I have seen the culls hunt and they are better than stuff I paid way too much for. I am still waiting on a hog trap that was supposed to be part of a deal. I have wasted too much money already. $500 for a Dogo pup! That is really cheap! I have seen much higher and down the road I may get one of their Dogo pups.

But I look at it as paying my dews to the hog dog community. But all I want to do is go hunting already! I want good BMC's and good Dogos. But I have learned to slow down and see who you can trust. It seems most people are just trying to make a buck off the new guy until he goes away. But I have one good dog so far and she wants to hunt as much as me and my boy.

But the question was about Dogos. Not paying too much or what the best dog is. I know there are great dogs out there. I just can't get one! So I want to know more about Dogos.

[make-em-squeel]

Paul i would love to read/watch and learn how you hunt yours. I am stuck on the traditional curs on the ground cd's on a lead until curs bay...mostly out of my fear of getting my dogo caught far off, even though mine doesn't fight a pig (holds clean) i am scared to let her stay caught for a long time, split bays/catches, etc etc. Heck she will get out 500yds in no time and that scares me, much less if she is with curs. And even a close range cur will head out a mile on a hot track and bay  then what..? I would love to 2 or 4 out some dogos but dont feel confident i wouldnt put them in a bad situation.....how do you do it 

A good pair can hold a big hog for quite some time. You just got to let them do it. Heat is a factor so when its real hot I get as close as I can and get there quick. When it cools off I usually wait for a hot track and send the white dogs asap. I will also send them to any bay they can hear. Trust the dog, trust the conditioning, trust the training. I also give mine as much work holding a hog as I can. When I get to a caught hog I never leg them, I see how things are going and if all is good I let them hold and I will slip in and stick the hog while it is standing up. I let them hold as long as they can and break them off just before the are exausted or to hot. This will help give you a good idea how long they can hold in differant conditions. My Adora female is also very long range, if I throw her down with the curs in open country she will hunt a mile deep. Yes that scares the crap out of me as well, but that is what they were designed to do, you just need to make sure they have some help, and are in very good condition. If you send a soft, fat Dogo a long ways you are in big trouble.

Great info. thanks, i will start by not dispatching the hog asap and letting them hold longer and sending them in from farther out ths fall. I appreciate the ino

[raider54]

sorry to intrude.. but if yall believe in the dogo. so much... why do u want an arm and leg for a pup?  yall say how every one hates.. on dogos.. cause they dont have them .. but if we try to get one it cost so much.....for a pure bread....and its a pup... it could be a cull or a dam good dog... dont know till it gets older... but if u charge alot. for them then the people that want one.. wont buy it cause of the cost......i know if u really want one u will break down and get what u want.....but to pay for a pup.. just say five hundred...... that pup will sit there till u think it is time for him to start.. training..... and if u are trying to start a pack .. of them then do the math..... i love hunting dogs.... and the risk of one gettin killed in action is always there... but i u make the dogo..sell for a cheaper price... and give more people the chance to own one... yall wouldnt have that many haters.....me myself would like to get a few for a pack sum day....but im not going to waste over a thousand dollars for just two pups....and then have to wait for them to get big enough to hunt... and then take a chance of one getting killed......and taking a step back in getting a pack..... i know everyone love their dog ....and thinks highly of them but to price them.. so high.. that average people cant get the chance to own one... and add it to their pack is ... stupid....... and dont even get me into half bread dogos........in my opinion... if u have a half dogo half what ever... u cant say much about anything... cause u hvae a half bread..... not a full blooded....... but if yall breaders would give a cheaper price for the dogo.. and give people a chance to own one and train it to hunt how they hunt.... maybe people would have a better opinion on them...... i dont own one... but ive been pricing them... and that is way yall will always have this fight between bulldogs pits and dogos......jmo..... but i am willing to buy a few for a cheap price...but dont think that will happen...u can trash me about this allday.. i dont care... i just think there wouldnt be  arguing if they didnt cost so .. and people would have a different opinion.. if they had a chance to own one.....

Most Hog Hunters WONT pay the price for them. People will pay $1500 all day long for a dogo as a pet, but hog hunters know they can get a pit and the pound for free, and most pits will catch with a little work. My buddies have purebred Dogos. I dont mean to get you started as you put it on 1/2 Dogos but thats what I choose to breed DOGO/AB's. I sold my last litter for $500 each. I just bred my reg. AB female to a reg. (proven) Dogo again. The pups are due Oct 1st and 4 of them are already sold @ $500. I could have bred her to a reg. AB and sold all the pups here in Plano, TX for $1000 to $1500 as pets but I am raising catch dogs with EVERYTHING I want out of a CD. These Dogo/AB's have been the best all around that I have seen. I pay good money for dogs that I like and if I dont like them I dont

[raider54]

gottagettem I understand you point. That is why I have to see the parents hunt and then get the hearing checked. But I have been trying to get really good curs! The people with the best curs won't sell one for anything. I have wasted too much money on culls. I am just plain sick of it. I am trying to get dogs so I can go hog hunting. THAT IS ALL I WANT! But you have the people hocking dogs that ain't worth a poop. The Dogos take time but I have seen the culls hunt and they are better than stuff I paid way too much for. I am still waiting on a hog trap that was supposed to be part of a deal. I have wasted too much money already. $500 for a Dogo pup! That is really cheap! I have seen much higher and down the road I may get one of their Dogo pups.

But I look at it as paying my dews to the hog dog community. But all I want to do is go hunting already! I want good BMC's and good Dogos. But I have learned to slow down and see who you can trust. It seems most people are just trying to make a buck off the new guy until he goes away. But I have one good dog so far and she wants to hunt as much as me and my boy.

But the question was about Dogos. Not paying too much or what the best dog is. I know there are great dogs out there. I just can't get one! So I want to know more about Dogos.

Dub, that was a very honest post and I wish you the best on finding what you are looking for.

[warrent423]

I will admit some of these prices now a days on these so called white english as well as the dogos is outrageous.

[make-em-squeel]

it cost me 1 k to get my dogo shipped to me from denmark and my friend 1.5k to go and pick his up from ppc in denmark and we would both do it agian, granted onedog was finished and mine came with a $ back guarantee! but to each his own and i have spent more than that on bulldogs i have culled.

I look like it as a one time investment, i am breeding them and giving the pups to my hunting friends to keep the blood aound. Just my .02 opinions welcome but no hating, your free pits are like comparing apples to oranges... i dont want to hear it!

[USHOG]

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[Scott]

Would someone please define "hating"...


Is a differing opinion "hating"?


Whether a dog is free or $1500+, price or lack thereof doesn't directly equate to quality in any way, shape or form. Comparisons in that manner are not always apples to oranges.

The great thing about the www; there's always dissenting opinions

[Mike]

Would someone please define "hating"...


Is a differing opinion "hating"?

That's what it seems like Scott... i've had about enough of the "hater" comments myself.

[gottagettem]

raider not trying to rag on anybodys half bread.....im just talking about the price.....in my opinion... people are just getting carryed away. with the price.... im gilty ... i payed 1500 for an english bulldog.... that has bought her way into my family.. another kid if u will... but wont pay that again......but u say u want ur blood line out their..... and everybody takes pride in either on blood line... people even have papers.... but com on.... if u want it out their and it takes time.... why u chargen so much for them..... i raised pit for along time.. and i uderstand u take pride in ur own blood line..... but  but u ever think about the average people that cant afford  that crazy price ur might be asking.... thats why u get bad reps.. and it how u get the hater.... hater.  is a person that wants  but cant afford or have. what someone else  has....   dogos... have a bad rep... cuase there is not alot of them out there.. and people want to much for the pups..... come on now... people say they are willing to help out others.. or new cummers... but u charge alot for a pup... that needs time to grow.....ya thats really helpin....but come on ... u want ur blood line out there..... then why charge so much........but of coarse.... if u can do it then i would do it to... but ur not helpin the fight at all...... just my thought

[tnhillbilly]

Well i'm gonna put my .02 worth on this high price issue, first of all I just spent over $1000 just to get a dog bred, not counting the time and gas. so when these pups get here I am going to charge what i think is a fair price for my time and money, now after the pups get here, then you have the (if properly cared for) shots, wormer, and anything els that might arise.
 Now having said that, and I definitly dont make alot of money, but have worked very hard, and saved, to get what i want, in other words, i had to spend alot of time and money to get what i wanted, and as the old saying goes, poop rolls down hill. Just like anything you buy, if it cost alot to make, then the price will be higher.
 although, I will agree that it doesnt make good sense to pay that kind of money for a catch dog, I think that is one reason some people are raising dogo pups that are not proven dogs, they are breeding dogs wether they will work or not because they are trying to recoup some of there money, therefore you get pups that have a 50-50 chance of makin a dog. So before i would buy one or two I would defenitly do ALOT of research on the breeder. hope that helps

[Mike]

I will agree that it doesnt make good sense to pay that kind of money for a catch dog, I think that is one reason some people are raising dogo pups that are not proven dogs, they are breeding dogs wether they will work or not because they are trying to recoup some of there money, therefore you get pups that have a 50-50 chance of makin a dog. So before i would buy one or two I would defenitly do ALOT of research on the breeder. hope that helps

Bingo... that my friend one of the main reasons the dogo is where it's at today...$$$

[Rockin-P-Ranch]

I will agree that it doesnt make good sense to pay that kind of money for a catch dog, I think that is one reason some people are raising dogo pups that are not proven dogs, they are breeding dogs wether they will work or not because they are trying to recoup some of there money, therefore you get pups that have a 50-50 chance of makin a dog. So before i would buy one or two I would defenitly do ALOT of research on the breeder. hope that helps

Bingo... that my friend one of the main reasons the dogo is where it's at today...$$$

I have not posted anything on thsi posted I know no a thing about the breed.But I do know somthing about working dogs. And there are good ones and sorry ones in every breed that I have seen. And some people only care about the money and not the breed. But not being a closed minded person, I am still one that would want to know more about the breed.

[dub]

Plain and simple. I will pay for a good dog. My Rottweilers came with a long guarantee but the bottom line said "if at any time in your dog's life you are not completely satisfied return the dog and we will replace it with a new puppy." I never returned a dog. The price did not matter because the dogs did what they were supposed to.

I expect the same for a Dogo. I do not care about money back, I want a dog that works. If you can't give me that the I want my money back. I have been contacted by people just wanting to get their investment back. So the price is not bad and I ain't asking you to pay for it.

I wanted to know who has good lines so when "I" pay for one 'I" have the best chance of a good hunting Dogo and not just a show Dogo.