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Circle C
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Re: Dogo breeders
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Dub,
The only purebred dogo that I have ever owned, came from a member on this board, that has been in the dogo circles longer than most of the "breeders" on ETHD. Here was my deal with him. I took the pup at 8 weeks. purchase price of dogo was $300.00. I was told not to pay him any money until the dog was 18 months old. If at 18 months the dog was catching, and had not shown any health defects, than pay the $300.00. If the dog had any problems prior to that, either euthanize the dog, or return to breeder. At that point, my only cost was in raising the dog, and time lost. I did not have a 500-1500.00 gamble.
That is someone that cares about the breed and is not in it for the $$$
Maybe you can find a deal like that, or you can shop on the classifieds and take a gamble.
One of USHog's line of Dogo's just hit the classifieds yesterday. $300.00 ..... Maybe she will turn into a dog.
http://www.easttexashogdoggers.com/forum/index.php?topic=18749.0
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That is a man working to improve the line of dogs he has and not try to put money in his pocket.
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Re: Dogo breeders
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My daddy can beat your daddy up!!lol
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Re: Dogo breeders
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Quote from: Mike on August 08, 2010, 11:07:38 pm
Quote from: Scott on August 08, 2010, 09:33:35 pm
Would someone please define "hating"...
Is a differing opinion "hating"?
That's what it seems like Scott... i've had about enough of the "hater" comments myself.
My bad mike, i didnt make myself clear...of coarse differing opinions are welcome and interesting. I was mostly referring to the "heart" comment and other threads that are not even relative to this one, therefore that portion of my post was not relative and should have been left out..Thats your job to monitor posts not mine! And i hate that i paid that much in shipping for a bulldog, i realize its not the brightest thing to do but its what i wanted i was fed up with what i had been going through and thats why i am placing the majority of the pups to my friends for free.
I am glad there is so much info on the board, like what silverton boar dogs was educating me on early, thats interesting stuff i am going to put to use.
Oh yea dub you should call Kevin down around corsicana, i love everything this guy says he is really on point send me a pm if you want his contact info. He knows his sh!t.
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lol @ cward
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Re: Dogo breeders
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circle c... u hit it for me.. u have found the right person.... someone who cares about the bread not the money..........thats what im talkin about.... the money will come and go.. but what i and i think everybody wants is a good working dog.. not a pup...... the money is worth a good workin dog... not the pup....... cause yes.. there is good and bad pups... in all batches..... but it takes time to figure out which one will do what u want.... a pup is going to slepp and play.....now if i got a pup... and the breader said that if it didnt work out.. to bring it back. for another one....... that would be worth the money....
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Re: Dogo breeders
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August 09, 2010, 11:52:42 pm »
Quote from: dub on August 09, 2010, 10:02:12 am
Plain and simple. I will pay for a good dog. My Rottweilers came with a long guarantee but the bottom line said "if at any time in your dog's life you are not completely satisfied return the dog and we will replace it with a new puppy." I never returned a dog. The price did not matter because the dogs did what they were supposed to.
I expect the same for a Dogo. I do not care about money back, I want a dog that works. If you can't give me that the I want my money back. I have been contacted by people just wanting to get their investment back. So the price is not bad and I ain't asking you to pay for it.
I wanted to know who has good lines so when "I" pay for one 'I" have the best chance of a good hunting Dogo and not just a show Dogo.
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Re: Dogo breeders
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tnhillbilly,
PM sent.
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August 10, 2010, 12:04:12 pm »
Quote from: Scott on August 08, 2010, 09:33:35 pm
Would someone please define "hating"...
Is a differing opinion "hating"?
Whether a dog is free or $1500+, price or lack thereof doesn't directly equate to quality in any way, shape or form. Comparisons in that manner are not always apples to oranges.
The great thing about the www; there's always dissenting opinions
I think the point is; this was a thread concerning a (Hunting Dogo)! You get one guy here that doesnt own a Dogo telling the thread starter Dogo's wont hunt! Understanding this is an opinion, it has no place on THIS thread! the thread starter was reaching out to hunting Dogo owners. The term hater is placed on those guys that troll the threads looking for a topic to slander or a dog breed to slander! for example if a thread started asks for opinions on a breed, everything should be fair game! but if they ask what is the best line for being gritty? this is not an ivitation to speak negative about any line. Simply I believe if someone starts a thread and wants to talk about a Ridgeback I believe guys that dont hunt ridgebacks or own any should stay out of it!
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Re: Dogo breeders
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August 10, 2010, 12:18:10 pm »
Quote from: raider54 on August 10, 2010, 12:04:12 pm
Quote from: Scott on August 08, 2010, 09:33:35 pm
Would someone please define "hating"...
Is a differing opinion "hating"?
Whether a dog is free or $1500+, price or lack thereof doesn't directly equate to quality in any way, shape or form. Comparisons in that manner are not always apples to oranges.
The great thing about the www; there's always dissenting opinions
I think the point is; this was a thread concerning a (Hunting Dogo)! You get one guy here that doesnt own a Dogo telling the thread starter Dogo's wont hunt! Understanding this is an opinion, it has no place on THIS thread! the thread starter was reaching out to hunting Dogo owners. The term hater is placed on those guys that troll the threads looking for a topic to slander or a dog breed to slander! for example if a thread started asks for opinions on a breed, everything should be fair game! but if they ask what is the best line for being gritty? this is not an ivitation to speak negative about any line. Simply I believe if someone starts a thread and wants to talk about a Ridgeback I believe guys that dont hunt ridgebacks or own any should stay out of it!
Raider,
I actually agree with you, however, I must add, you yourself don't hunt dogos or own dogos. Should you not stay out of this one yourself per your own reasoning? I know you have experience with dogo crosses, but that again was not what the thread starter was asking for. I've for sure got no stake in it, just simply wanting to learn. Let me say now, I meant no hard feelings, I'm just wanting clarification.
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Re: Dogo breeders
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August 10, 2010, 12:41:52 pm »
I think/assume raider54 is talking about field knowledge of hunting behind the breed, not necessarly feeding them, or only hunting with one or two bad examples. He has hunted behind mine, hoghunterdfw's , and severel other dogos quite a bit even though they come home to my kennell he was legging or sticking the hog they were caught on more than once.
For example i have never owned an ab/dogo mix but feel confident giving my opinions about the breed because of the hogs i have seen raiders mix catch, heck max (his cd) started my dogo on its first severel hogs that paul choked her off of.
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August 10, 2010, 03:28:09 pm »
I know some people like dogos and I'm sure there are some good ones but what people are paying for them is absolutely ridiculous.. I've hunted with about 15 of them and not 1 of them was any better than any other good catchdog.. 14 of them I would not even feed.
What justifies the ridiculous price?
Or the extra feed it takes ?
Or the extra room?
Or all the health problems?
You could get you a pack of good built, good bred bulldogs ,for what one dogo costs,and hunt them together as a pack and they would be every bit as good as any pack of dogos.. And it would not cost you near as much aggravation and food and room and money..
And the people that think a bulldog don't have the stamina , well they just aint ever been around a good bred , deep chested bulldog..
I aint hatin on dogos and people can hunt whatever they want and spend whatever they want on dogs , don't bother me a bit.. But I do know that there is absolutely no advantage in hunting a dogo and if you pay crazy money for one you got ripped off. IMO
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Re: Dogo breeders
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August 10, 2010, 03:33:42 pm »
I just read what I posted and it sounded a little more harsh than the way I meant it..
And maybe I have no business even posting my opinion. I was mainly just giving my opinion on the crazy prices people pay for them..
I would actually like to hunt with someone who has some good ones one day. Who knows I may be buying me a pack of dogos afterwards..
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August 10, 2010, 04:11:12 pm »
Quote from: chainrated on August 10, 2010, 03:33:42 pm
I just read what I posted and it sounded a little more harsh than the way I meant it..
And maybe I have no business even posting my opinion. I was mainly just giving my opinion on the crazy prices people pay for them..
I would actually like to hunt with someone who has some good ones one day. Who knows I may be buying me a pack of dogos afterwards..
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Once again, I am not asking anybody else to buy a Dogo. If you do not want one then do not buy one. I am not asking any question about the value of a Dogo or how much they eat. I just want to buy a Dogo that is from a line that is hunted.
Why is it when a thread comes up about Dogos people must bash them.
Why I will get a Dogo:
1. The ones I have been around hunt and catch.
2. I want catch dogs on the ground so the hog is caught quicker.
3. I LIKE THEM!!!!!!
4. I like the personality.
5. I like big dogs.
6. My family loves Dogos. Even my wife likes the Dogos.
I like little women and big dogs. My best friend in high school liked his women large. I never let him set me up on a date but I did not keep telling him he was wrong for his choices.
I want to find people that have hunted with Dogos and can say who has good lines or what lines are all show.
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Re: Dogo breeders
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Quote from: chainrated on August 10, 2010, 03:33:42 pm
I just read what I posted and it sounded a little more harsh than the way I meant it..
And maybe I have no business even posting my opinion. I was mainly just giving my opinion on the crazy prices people pay for them..
I would actually like to hunt with someone who has some good ones one day. Who knows I may be buying me a pack of dogos afterwards..
I have found people that care more about getting Dogos out than money. I am find lots of people hunting with them because of this thread. For the most part I have received good PM's. I just wish this thread could be here for others to see.
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Re: Dogo breeders
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August 10, 2010, 04:34:43 pm »
Quote from: dub on August 10, 2010, 04:20:17 pm
I want to find people that have hunted with Dogos and can say who has good lines or what lines are all show.
You know that picture they posted in here of my dog & Joes? One of those dogs is almost TEN. Ten! Ten is pretty old for a couch dog let alone a working dog & that alone to me speaks volumes for a line. A dog that is build right & not breaking down over time & that seems smart enough to catch & catch well to still be hunted over at ten is just amazing to me.
How often do you see that sort of longevity, smarts & efficiency in a RCD? It's an honest question because I really don't know. It kind of knocked me off my feet when I found out her age because I've seen her catch some mean SOB's in the past year. Boomin' Granny!
Anyhow that's something I found to be really impressive and it's a good question to pose to the breeders you approach.
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Re: Dogo breeders
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Quote from: dub on August 10, 2010, 04:20:17 pm
Once again, I am not asking anybody else to buy a Dogo. If you do not want one then do not buy one. I am not asking any question about the value of a Dogo or how much they eat. I just want to buy a Dogo that is from a line that is hunted.
Why is it when a thread comes up about Dogos people must bash them.
Opinions on any and every breed vary. You have to be able to separate the facts (good and bad) from the fiction (good and bad) on your own. That being said, you can't look at any breed with rose colored glasses...honest opinions are not always what we
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August 10, 2010, 05:58:56 pm »
Quote from: dub on August 10, 2010, 04:20:17 pm
Why is it when a thread comes up about Dogos people must bash them.
Dub, because most of the people doing the so called "bashing" have been around dogos for many years and know of all the problems with the breed... a lot more than some of the dogo people that have only been around them a couple of years or owned 1 or 2.
There's only a few on here that I would recommend you to on dogos with MANY years experience with the breed.
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Quote from: Cutter Bay Kennels on August 10, 2010, 12:18:10 pm
Quote from: raider54 on August 10, 2010, 12:04:12 pm
Quote from: Scott on August 08, 2010, 09:33:35 pm
Would someone please define "hating"...
Is a differing opinion "hating"?
Whether a dog is free or $1500+, price or lack thereof doesn't directly equate to quality in any way, shape or form. Comparisons in that manner are not always apples to oranges.
The great thing about the www; there's always dissenting opinions
I think the point is; this was a thread concerning a (Hunting Dogo)! You get one guy here that doesnt own a Dogo telling the thread starter Dogo's wont hunt! Understanding this is an opinion, it has no place on THIS thread! the thread starter was reaching out to hunting Dogo owners. The term hater is placed on those guys that troll the threads looking for a topic to slander or a dog breed to slander! for example if a thread started asks for opinions on a breed, everything should be fair game! but if they ask what is the best line for being gritty? this is not an ivitation to speak negative about any line. Simply I believe if someone starts a thread and wants to talk about a Ridgeback I believe guys that dont hunt ridgebacks or own any should stay out of it!
Raider,
I actually agree with you, however, I must add, you yourself don't hunt dogos or own dogos. Should you not stay out of this one yourself per your own reasoning? I know you have experience with dogo crosses, but that again was not what the thread starter was asking for. I've for sure got no stake in it, just simply wanting to learn. Let me say now, I meant no hard feelings, I'm just wanting clarification.
Cutter Bay, I get the saccasm I hunt with purebred Dogo's almost every weekend, my personal dogs are AB/DOGO crosses! Are you clear now? This happens anytime Dogo is in the title, and no-one wants to hear the word "Hater" Well what is it then? You know for the most part if you read any of my posts they will be positive! If not it will be in response to someone talkin sh!t
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