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« on: August 16, 2010, 05:37:29 pm »

Nothing has changed 2010/2011 season on SHNF WMA NO DOGS. All the wrighting letters & phone calls did not do anything
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2010, 05:43:22 pm »

It's a damn shame to have all that land and all those hogs and you can't do anything with em. It really wouldn't suprise me to see them sell large portions of it in the next 5-10 years to papaer companies. They just take away a little here and a little there till there is nothing left and then blame it on us. Hell of a system they have worked out.
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2010, 06:06:38 pm »

Man, I sure would like to get back in there and hunt on horseback again.

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« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2010, 06:14:08 pm »

i would like to just get my dogs in there without getting in trouble
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« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2010, 06:54:42 pm »

Neighboring land owners need to take action by contacting their State and federal Representatives to demand action be taken to protect their property. The easiest way is to allow hunting all year by any legal manner.
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« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2010, 07:37:31 pm »

 I think some of the hunters shot themselves in the foot. I have heard from some people who own land around the SHNF and they spoke about people jumping fences and hunting their land with dogs. Trail cams,prints,etc. Also, wasnt there a form that hunters filled out showing how many hogs they killed,days hunted etc? I doubt many people filled those out. Not saying it is right to take our rights away just that it isnt all to blame the govt. We all know of the bad apples in our sport. Maybe I am way off base.........
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« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2010, 07:41:23 pm »

I think some of the hunters shot themselves in the foot. I have heard from some people who own land around the SHNF and they spoke about people jumping fences and hunting their land with dogs. Trail cams,prints,etc. Also, wasnt there a form that hunters filled out showing how many hogs they killed,days hunted etc? I doubt many people filled those out. Not saying it is right to take our rights away just that it isnt all to blame the govt. We all know of the bad apples in our sport. Maybe I am way off base.........
I agree to some of this!!But there are just as many deer poachers as hog hunting !But they sure want pull there deer hunting away!!
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« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2010, 07:53:29 pm »

Thats BS propley 95% of the land owners let people hunt hogs with dogs
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2010, 07:58:13 pm »

i cant help but feel this has something to do with china owning all the national and state parks now  that your president obama borrowed billions from them... Afro Afro

i heard something about this a year ago or so on the rush limbaugh show. i hope it aint so.
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2010, 08:02:57 pm »

Thats BS propley 95% of the land owners let people hunt hogs with dogs

 I will take that bet. 1k sound good?


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     I agree about the deer hunters but people perception of hog hunters isnt a very good one so...... Soon enough the deer hunting will be by the draw system to bring in more money.
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2010, 08:05:43 pm »

Thats BS propley 95% of the land owners let people hunt hogs with dogs
This is correct I have hunted the forrest all my life and never had any trouble with neighbors property!!
But the trouble is now if are dog cross into the forrest then we are trespassing!!

Cantexduck where we live we do have pemission all around us we have good neighbors that is what captin is talking about!!
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« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2010, 08:33:22 pm »

Your dog go on Fed land drop all your gear except the Garmin and dog leads. You are in dog recovery mode only! I would not even leave a pocket knife in my pocket! That nobody can say you were hunting. I was hunting but when the dogs went on Fed land I left all the hunting gear on private property that I had permission to hunt and went to catch my dogs! I believe am allergic to incarceration and do not want to find out for sure!
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2010, 08:44:20 pm »

I will tell you I personally believe deer poachers outnumber hog poachers 10:1 but you'll never see deer hunters treated with the suspicion and disrespect that hog hunters are! Its pretty disgusting really, almost every land owner that I talk to about hog removal starts off defensive. You can say we should police ourselves better but I think its more than that.
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2010, 09:10:25 pm »

I heard this was a decision made by the federal game warden.. Alot of it was because people weren't filling out their proper amount of harvested hogs. As a result the federali's came in and decided to give certain people trapping rights and traditional hunters a chance at controlling the numbers. No worries guys, we've talked to few trappers and their numbers are extremely light.. If the ban does happen to last a little longer consider it a sanctuary for the hogs and bigger/badder big boys running around.. We have tons of places in and around the shnf, and certainly can't wait for the ban to be lifted
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2010, 09:47:47 pm »

I heard this was a decision made by the federal game warden.. Alot of it was because people weren't filling out their proper amount of harvested hogs. As a result the federali's came in and decided to give certain people trapping rights and traditional hunters a chance at controlling the numbers. No worries guys, we've talked to few trappers and their numbers are extremely light.. If the ban does happen to last a little longer consider it a sanctuary for the hogs and bigger/badder big boys running around.. We have tons of places in and around the shnf, and certainly can't wait for the ban to be lifted
I doint no about that they could let them hunt them to . Are season only went from January 15 to March 15 & the last 2 years were February 1 to March 15 And it was all legal means
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2010, 11:09:29 pm »

If it is Federal land then contact your Congressman. Write a very nice letter, get it proof read, stating your position on the issue as respectfully as you can and send it. How many people are writing to stop dog hunting. There just needs to be more from us than them. It is just that simple. Politicians just want to get reelected.
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« Reply #16 on: August 16, 2010, 11:13:31 pm »

If it is Federal land then contact your Congressman. Write a very nice letter, get it proof read, stating your position on the issue as respectfully as you can and send it. How many people are writing to stop dog hunting. There just needs to be more from us than them. It is just that simple. Politicians just want to get reelected.
That is the best Idea I herd of yet !!
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« Reply #17 on: August 16, 2010, 11:21:43 pm »

allright then how bout this, if someone on the BOD of tdha reads this, i would like to propose that the the TDHA drafts a letter to whom it may concern and attach an electronic petition, so that we may all sign it, then if after delivery of said petition the TDHA BOD's do not hear back from anyone within one buisness week they should release the phone number of whatever office we need to kindly, and tactfully call. Im pretty sure some folks did this last year but lets do it again. other groups of people in our country have learned that the whiniest baby gets the b@@b and its high time we get our shot
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« Reply #18 on: August 16, 2010, 11:26:47 pm »

 :'( :'( :'( I'm Whining with you my friend!!
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« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2010, 11:48:33 pm »

 Cheesy as you may could tell by my lack of grammer and proper spelling, I aint the one to write the letter but lets get it crackin. And Mike, Chris, Matt etc didnt yall used to do like like a annual Sam Houston weekend? I wonder with the Economy in Shambles if we could convince the powers that be that dog hunting could be a decent source of revenue for the park service, as in something like a public tournament for hogs with entry fees paid directly to wichever park hosts the event and maybe even an expo in one of the event areas.
is there any public facilities at Sam Houston big enough to host such a function?
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