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« on: September 07, 2010, 09:45:30 pm »

can some of yall post some pics of a leopard dog? not a catahula tho? or is there a diff? some say there is ,some say there aint.
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2010, 09:52:52 pm »

I say there is I do not on one or never owned one but boy I sure got to work cattle behind some dang good leps. They had good ears and top nots on there heads most were cracked eyed not blue!! These dogs would spin a whole in the ground in front of a herd of cows!! They did not have block heads!!
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2010, 09:57:37 pm »

I agree, there is a difference, don't have pics of one but do have a cat. I think true leps even had a double coat, from what I've been told. As in the true leopard cur.
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2010, 10:06:57 pm »

i have heard on this site there is a leopard dog that is not a catahoula but i have never found on the net where it is a different breed?? someone inform me too. Cool
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2010, 10:12:53 pm »

There is a what is called leopard dog and it is not a cat. Have not seen any good ones as of late. But about 10 or 15 years ago there use be some. And like Chance said they where h@!! on wheels.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2010, 10:14:49 pm »

I beleave the extra coat deal!! Them dogs that I worked behind if you crab them by there collar old sticky gunk would be all over there collars!!
I now where there are a few and the man will not breed them and said his blood will die with him!! I will see if he will let me take a picture of one but this old man is sure funny about them 3 dogs!! I know one of them has to be atleat 15 years old!!
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2010, 10:20:35 pm »

please do take tha pic. a guy who comes to my work swears by em> says he has "tru full blood leopardss" i never seen em and he wants to trade my 14mth old mt curr gyp for one of his leopards> i just dont want anymore freakin pups. what yall think?Huh?
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2010, 10:30:19 pm »

Not knowing who he is or his dogs. That is going to have to be your call.
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2010, 10:38:16 pm »

i know he catches pigs, lots of em to. he just hunts diff than i do. he wants his dogs close, i want mine gone. id hunt with a rifle if i wanted to find tha pigs myself.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2010, 11:34:00 pm »

there is deffinatly a difference, i have owned both. the american leopard cur is more houndy, colder nosed, fast, and most are open mouthed on track.  they come colored same as catahoulas tho. leopard and black and tan.  i think i have a pic. of my old black and tan leopard i will try and post later.

  I like them!  but they are same as every other breed, UKC recognized them as a breed, and the price went thru the roof and hence forth breeding for$$$.  but there are some good uns out there just do your home work.  i would defenitly give one a try.  my buddy bought theone i used to have and he is totaly silent in track, and built about as good as you can get.
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010, 08:05:09 am »

What would this one be?
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2010, 08:06:16 am »

Yeah i agree there is a difference.  The leopard dogs ive been around are catsxcurs somewhere aways back.  damn good working dog but they always seem coyote acting and hard headed.  
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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2010, 08:38:25 am »

I have always been told from guys that have them that they are a Cat x Black Mouth Curr.  I have a buddy with what he calls leopard pups on ground now and that is what they are.
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 09:26:30 am »

The people I grew up around called all spoted cur dogs leopards. In La. and Miss. they called the spoted dogs leopards and the solid colored dogs catahoulas. Now days, the spoted stock dogs are catahoulas and the american leopard curs are the east coast, open on track, tree dogs. They are said to of been around for many years but were very rare untill Richard McDuffie brought them back starting in the 60's. The funny part is, the three main dogs he used came out of Texas. A reliable source told me they came from Cowboy Williams and were July Catahoula crosses. That might be the reason for the double coat. The UKC registers the as American Leopard Hounds.
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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 10:09:25 am »


here is one my leopard dogs
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2010, 10:13:15 am »

The people I grew up around called all spoted cur dogs leopards.

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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2010, 10:18:02 am »

The first person I heard call the spoted dogs catahoulas was Tom Stogehill. He bought lots of pups from my Dad in the early 60's. They left the house as leopards and ended up catahoulas. He shipped lots of them to South America.
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2010, 10:29:58 am »

http://www.ukcdogs.com/WebSite.nsf/Breeds/AmericanLeopardHoundRevisedJanuary12009

American Leopard Hounds are believed to be the descendants of dogs that were brought to the new world by Spanish conquistadors and crossed with native Mexican dogs. Early American settlers brought Leopard dogs from Mexico to hunt bear.

The Leopard Cur was recognized by UKC on November 1, 1998. The breed name was changed to American Leopard Hound May 1, 2008.

From what there saying the changed the name for leopard curs??? Also didn't they change the name of catahoula curs to leopard catahoula or just catahoula??
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2010, 10:38:32 am »

The people I grew up around called all spoted cur dogs leopards. In La. and Miss. they called the spoted dogs leopards and the solid colored dogs catahoulas. Now days, the spoted stock dogs are catahoulas and the american leopard curs are the east coast, open on track, tree dogs. They are said to of been around for many years but were very rare untill Richard McDuffie brought them back starting in the 60's. The funny part is, the three main dogs he used came out of Texas. A reliable source told me they came from Cowboy Williams and were July Catahoula crosses. That might be the reason for the double coat. The UKC registers the as American Leopard Hounds.

Very interesting bit of info here bigo. And yes, they were recategorized in 2008 (I think) in the UKC registry from cur to hound after the breeders petitioned them. They did this to compete against the hounds in UKC competitions.

A friend of mine owned and hog hunted with a full blooded Leopard cur. That dog was he!! on wheels! A hog hunting machine!
He had a double coat of hair and I think that is what killed him. I was sick about it because that dog was special in my eyes and he died in my yard where my buddy kept him after finding and baying hogs all day one summer!
It was either his dad or his cousin that got the dog from Cowboy Williams but Im not sure.
Its all hearsay and I will try and verify the story with my buddy but I do know one thing for sure; That dog was a cold nosed, silent tracking, double coated hog finding machine!
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2010, 10:40:01 am »

anyone ever heard where the two different breeds came from? difference in bloodline/breeding? ive googled my heart out before and never come up with anything. i believe there is a cur type and a hound type.  i think the two have to have common blood somewhere down the line.  some say not, but noone has ever produced records to disprove it.
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