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« Reply #80 on: September 13, 2010, 09:09:50 am » |
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The people I grew up around called all spoted cur dogs leopards. In La. and Miss. they called the spoted dogs leopards and the solid colored dogs catahoulas. Now days, the spoted stock dogs are catahoulas and the american leopard curs are the east coast, open on track, tree dogs. They are said to of been around for many years but were very rare untill Richard McDuffie brought them back starting in the 60's. The funny part is, the three main dogs he used came out of Texas. A reliable source told me they came from Cowboy Williams and were July Catahoula crosses. That might be the reason for the double coat. The UKC registers the as American Leopard Hounds.
X2 I wrote an article on this very topic: http://thehoundsmen.blogspot.com/2008/12/catahoula-or-leopard-cur-dog-or-hound.htmlAnd the one thing I didn't mention in the article because it's politically controversial is that it was, in my opinion, more about ribbon chasing than anything else. The guys breeding for field trials were slowly but surely breeding them into coon-dogs, until one day everyone looked around and was kind of forced to ask the question "Hey are these really curs anymore? They hunt like hounds now." Which was exactly what they wanted because the hound trial guys don't like letting cur-dogs play "their" games... as if that would somehow be an insult to the la-dee-da hounds or something (it always strikes me as odd when you have rednecks getting all snobby with each other)  So they were all too eager to have their dogs reclassified as hounds, it allows them to play the coon-hound game, at least with less condescension  Good article! It is accurate according to the research I have done also. Ribbon chasers? It’s your opinion but after researching leopard dogs, that’s about the only conclusion a person can come up with for the reclassification and the way they have been bred in recent years. Just another coon dog now a days it seems. Give me a old school leopard dog and I will show you a good leopard dog! |
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« Reply #81 on: September 13, 2010, 10:08:19 am » |
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Them old lep. Dogs I remeber man I am talking about could just lead a bunch of cattle!!These dogs would cover some country to find a cow and have the bunch bayed when you got there!! I have seen some awesome lead dogs but when it come to them old 3 leps. They would spin in front of cows I'm truely saying spin look like they were chaseing there tails!! If a cow came out of the herd they would check her make her get back then start spinning again! These dogs never stopped moveing!! I seen one pup out of them that got put on hogs!! She was gritty and made a hell of a dog!! But she would chase her tail in a pen and chewed it off to a nub!!
I wish there were some around just to watch them!!
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Remember John Wayne was just an actor the real cowboys is who he looked up to..........
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« Reply #82 on: September 13, 2010, 11:20:55 am » |
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I've never heard of that Cward, but that don't mean much  sure would be something to watch though, and I can't get over the dog chewing her tail...Something in her brain had to say THIS HURTS at one point or another |
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« Reply #83 on: January 18, 2012, 12:34:22 pm » |
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This is an awesome thread, thanks for the education.
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« Reply #84 on: January 18, 2012, 05:08:46 pm » |
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Lamar Meeks is a leopard man in GA. He is supposed to have some old blood there. Real nice old guy. When I spoke with him he wasn't happy bout the dogs bein classed as hounds, not at all happy ! He runs an add in boar hunter magazine in case any of ya have it. If I remember correctly he was close to the coast
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« Reply #85 on: January 18, 2012, 05:30:21 pm » |
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could it be that the yeller dogs came from the old time leapords ?
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« Reply #86 on: January 18, 2012, 05:51:40 pm » |
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could it be that the yeller dogs came from the old time leapords ?
No. Everybody who's anybody knows yeller dogs were created in the throne room of Valhalla as a gift to mankind to rid the world of pigs before the apocalypse. Throughout human history there was never a group of people found worthy to be entrusted with the holy dogs from on high, until Man discovered Texas. It was the best of the human race who were smart enough to make this rugged land their home and Oden decided the time of the yeller dog was at hand. |
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« Reply #87 on: January 18, 2012, 05:56:14 pm » |
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could it be that the yeller dogs came from the old time leapords ?
No. Everybody who's anybody knows yeller dogs were created in the throne room of Valhalla as a gift to mankind to rid the world of pigs before the apocalypse. Throughout human history there was never a group of people found worthy to be entrusted with the holy dogs from on high, until Man discovered Texas. It was the best of the human race who were smart enough to make this rugged land their home and Oden decided the time of the yeller dog was at hand. Someone has to much time on their hands Besides everyone knows the crows were Odin's favorite dogs |
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« Reply #88 on: January 18, 2012, 06:00:52 pm » |
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could it be that the yeller dogs came from the old time leapords ?
No. Everybody who's anybody knows yeller dogs were created in the throne room of Valhalla as a gift to mankind to rid the world of pigs before the apocalypse. Throughout human history there was never a group of people found worthy to be entrusted with the holy dogs from on high, until Man discovered Texas. It was the best of the human race who were smart enough to make this rugged land their home and Oden decided the time of the yeller dog was at hand. wow...   I don't really know why but I thought the yeller dogs were created by crossing a great dane with a minature doberman... |
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« Reply #89 on: January 19, 2012, 07:20:54 pm » |
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I see where yall have been asking and wondering about leopard curs. My american leopard curs/hounds are ukc reg. The main difference between leopard curs and leopard cats are the ears, nose and be'n an open mouth on track dogs. They do have a great cold nose. The ears are set lower on the head and hang lower and the open like a hound on track and they tree. The have a lot of brains, heart and character. Most cats I've been around and seen are larger muscular built dogs. I'm really love'n mine. I was able to get a couple dogs that you can trace their bloodlines all the way back to the 60's and 70's. I remember reading an article in full cry where they were try'n to get the mountain cur guys to change over their breed to a "hound" back in 2004 or 2005 in full cry. I think the leopard guys just went because the mountain cur boys wouldn't. To me they have put too much hound in them now since UKC took it over. The hound guys have really added a lot more ear and made them a larger dog. Use to be most of the leopard curs were 30 to 45 lbs females and 45 to 60 or so pound males. Now you can see a 90 to 100 lbs male dog. And they have made them more of a go yonder dog. I like my curs. They hunt close like the old curs, they have a good cold nose, they have the smaller shorter ears and muzzles. They are the smaller body and size. Yall are more than welcome to come coon hunt'n with me if you want. Here are a couple pictures of mine Bubby on a tree  Patches on the tree  Bubby on tree  |
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« Reply #90 on: January 25, 2014, 09:47:42 pm » |
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So my question is who raise UKC leopard hound/ curs I've been hunting around and there nothing but dead ends
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« Reply #91 on: January 26, 2014, 10:31:52 am » |
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mike Rodgers is where I got mine there is another fella In north texas [ can't recall his name right now ] that hog hunts with his . but mike has pups every now and then and has some good dogs . other than that you have to head to Oklahoma and further north to find any . Louisiana has a couple folks as well . go to the ukc board forum and into the classifieds you'll find some folks and see where they are located .
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« Reply #92 on: January 26, 2014, 02:24:23 pm » |
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I own 4 leopard hounds and they look very different from a catahoula. Mine look like hounds with leopard spots and blue eyes. I love the hound type head on them. They seem like they are a little slower to mature than some other breeds i have owned. But i wouldnt take for mine. I have 4 littermates and all are a different color. One red leopard one blue one sable and one brindle.
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« Reply #93 on: January 26, 2014, 02:58:14 pm » |
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I see where yall have been asking and wondering about leopard curs. My american leopard curs/hounds are ukc reg. The main difference between leopard curs and leopard cats are the ears, nose and be'n an open mouth on track dogs. They do have a great cold nose. The ears are set lower on the head and hang lower and the open like a hound on track and they tree. The have a lot of brains, heart and character. Most cats I've been around and seen are larger muscular built dogs. I'm really love'n mine. I was able to get a couple dogs that you can trace their bloodlines all the way back to the 60's and 70's. I remember reading an article in full cry where they were try'n to get the mountain cur guys to change over their breed to a "hound" back in 2004 or 2005 in full cry. I think the leopard guys just went because the mountain cur boys wouldn't. To me they have put too much hound in them now since UKC took it over. The hound guys have really added a lot more ear and made them a larger dog. Use to be most of the leopard curs were 30 to 45 lbs females and 45 to 60 or so pound males. Now you can see a 90 to 100 lbs male dog. And they have made them more of a go yonder dog. I like my curs. They hunt close like the old curs, they have a good cold nose, they have the smaller shorter ears and muzzles. They are the smaller body and size. Yall are more than welcome to come coon hunt'n with me if you want. Here are a couple pictures of mine
Bubby on a tree
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« Reply #94 on: January 28, 2014, 02:36:57 pm » |
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I say there is I do not on one or never owned one but boy I sure got to work cattle behind some dang good leps. They had good ears and top nots on there heads most were cracked eyed not blue!! These dogs would spin a whole in the ground in front of a herd of cows!! They did not have block heads!!
This is my old school catahoula ( he ain't no nalc bay pen dog ). He came from stock dogs that the old families used to catch their cattle and hogs out of the woods with. He hunts out 100-300yds but goes 600-800yds in sign. He listens good and minds. He is not aggressive towards people unless a stranger comes near my lil girl and then he will eat their boots off their feet. |
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« Reply #97 on: January 28, 2014, 08:59:03 pm » |
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most i see around no longer meet the breed standards as stated by the leopard hound club of the ukc...
this is just one example.
"EARS - Ears are drop, of short-to-medium length, wide at the base, and set high."
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« Reply #98 on: January 30, 2014, 12:50:27 pm » |
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  This is my leopard hound, no papers or history behind her, I was told she is a leopard hound when I got her. She doesn't sound like a hound at all tho, big loud regular ol bark. |
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