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« on: September 08, 2010, 08:43:09 am »

So who is burning a Koran on Saturday?  Wink

They say that if a US pastor burns Korans that it will make life harder on the soldiers in the middle east, therefore by proxy Islam is effectively limiting freedom of speech in the US. I've seen people burn Bibles and flags, but the muslims through intimidation want to keep Americans from burning the Koran. Who says we are not at war with Islam?
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« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2010, 08:47:08 am »



 Who says we are not at war with Islam?



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after thinking about this why would we lower our actions to the actions they do
I do beleive though we are at war with Islam ,They think they  are better and should ne the only ones on earth
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« Reply #2 on: September 08, 2010, 09:32:06 am »

As with any problem, disagreement etc etc that we face in life…one has to ask the question is it worth it? What would be gained? In this case it won’t help anything. And being that the extremists are hate mongers they feed off this type of response. These are evil people who murder, torture and coerce people into their cause. Something like this just gives them more of a foot hold and will rally others to their way of thinking. People would join who would have otherwise stay uninvolved…and for what? The godly way would be to pray on it and keep the faith that the right decision would be made whether now or in the long run.
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« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2010, 09:46:46 am »

I don't like it.

Im embarrassed that its happening in my state.


there are crazy extreme christians, but burning bibles wouldn't be directed only at them, it would piss off a lot of christians.

I agree with crib This Helps noone.

It makes the south look ignorant.



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« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2010, 10:03:39 am »

I don't see where burning the koran will do much more than make a negitive public statement. I don't care if they burn every copy in the world personaly,But I wouldn't want anyone burning the Bible or the American Flag either. It is there right to do it, so light'er up if thats what you wanna do. I do think we need to make a stand against radical Islam in America, but I also think there are much more effective way's of doing it that could have a lasting effect, the voting box is a good place to start  Wink 2012 ain't far away
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« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2010, 10:56:58 am »

As with any problem, disagreement etc etc that we face in life…one has to ask the question is it worth it? What would be gained? In this case it won’t help anything. And being that the extremists are hate mongers they feed off this type of response. These are evil people who murder, torture and coerce people into their cause. Something like this just gives them more of a foot hold and will rally others to their way of thinking. People would join who would have otherwise stay uninvolved…and for what? The godly way would be to pray on it and keep the faith that the right decision would be made whether now or in the long run.
     I agree.... to defeat evil you donot have to become evil.... this guy is simply sinking to their level... and it will reflect on all the south.... but it is his right ... and it will fuel the fire against us at election time for some people...
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« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2010, 11:21:34 am »

  I sometimes think that the way the world is going that we are in the start of the Apocalypse or even possibly toward the end of it.  The only thing that the burning of the Koran is going to prove is that there are ignorant people that do not stand for what we as Christians are taught. The congregation that is planning on the Koran burning is wanting to put a stop to the Islamic church that is wanting to be built close to ground zero in New York.  It is not going to stop the building, only those in New York can stop it. 
  I am a Baptist, born and raised. I do not believe in some of the things that the Baptist believe in, not because I think it is wrong, just for the simple fact that I do not understand the ways and no one can tell me why they are done the way they are.  I also believe in the right to freedom of religion. Wasn't that what the United States of America was built on, at least one of the things. Is that preacher acting the same as those that are taking our religious rights away?  Is he related to Madeline O'Hare?
  Now to get higher on the soap box.  I am angry at our government when they support those that invaded our security. Since 9-11 there has been more Muslims and Islamic's that have come into our country and the government has opened up our country with welcoming arms.  They have been set up in businesses, given homes and money all part of our tax dollars and told here you go.  They do not have to make money they only have to keep there businesses open for so long and then they sale it to one of their own and the government starts them all over again.  There are no longer any businesses that are American owned and operated.  You go into one of there businesses and we as Americans are treated as trash and that we should bow down to them when in fact, I feel that when I go into one of their businesses that they should bow down to me and thank me for my son who was shipped over to their mother country to protect them.  Who is protecting us from them?
  I do not believe in burning the flag, because that is a major symbol of my freedom, I do not believe in burning of the bible, because that is my belief. But if that preacher wants to burn the Koran that is his right because the government said it was.  But I think the government needs to rethink what they think our rights are.  The war is getting closer to the holy land....Anybody read Revelations and has anyone ever heard of Nostradamus?
  Wow I feel better, and I apologize is I upset anyone that was not my intention.

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« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2010, 11:31:11 am »

Im not going to burn one.  Simply because i wont spend the money to buy one.  Wink
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« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2010, 11:40:07 am »

Personally i think its not worth the match it would take to set it on fire.  Not to mention like others said its stuping to thier level.

Who ever thinks Christianity and Islam are not at war need to read up on history and the crusades.  Its the oldest war known to man kind.  Been going on for a couple thousand years if I am not mistaken .
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« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2010, 12:33:27 pm »

Just so that I don't get any heated PM's, I don't personnally agree with the dude organizing the events for this Saturday.  I was reading up about everything that is going on and this conversation got cranked up in the office.  

I draw a lot of similarites between this and the proposed mosque near ground zero.  This is a "free" country and as such both groups have the right to burn the koran or build a mosque if they chose to do so.  BUT this about being respectful and ultimately being a decent human being.  If there is repect for others and a minimal amount of decency neither would take place IMO.  

I am SO sick of the catering to muslims I'm about to blow a gasket.  Will someone in the whitehouse please aknowledge the 800lb gorilla in the room......sure not all muslims are terrorist but every terroist attack against this county this decade has been carried out and funded by a muslim. And any muslim that won't aknowledge this and denounce this large segment of their religion should join their fate.
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« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2010, 12:48:42 pm »

I heard a reporter ask if "Would Jesus say go burn their holy book?" I say he would not say that. Not about burning the book but Jesus would not call it a holy book. I would not burn it but not out of any respect for the religion but because the Bible tells me not to provoke my neighbor.

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Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

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Romans 12:18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men. 19 Never take your own revenge, beloved, but leave room for the wrath of God, for it is written, "VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY," says the Lord.

Muslims attacked what they saw as a Christian nation on September 11, 2001. Because of this 2,996 people were killed at the hands of nineteen men!

On December 26, 2004 an earthquake triggered a tsunami. As a result of this OVER 230,000 people in fourteen countries were killed at the hand of God.

My God is all powerful and does not need me like I need my God! I will leave the Muslims to my God to deal with.
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« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2010, 12:52:25 pm »

While it is that Preacher's right, I don't agree with burning the Koran just as I don't agree with burning the Bible or the US flag or ANY of the Texas flags. However, I also have a problem with us as Americans having to walk on eggshells when it comes to handling people of Muslim faith. I do not think our government has ever thought twice about offending Christians. More than that, they seem to treat Christians as if we have a disease - no prayer in school, you can't say Merry Christmas, etc... That said, OUR tax dollars just got finished paying for a Mosque to be built in Egypt, for the head honcho at NASA to make the agency more Muslim friendly, and for a controversial Immam (you know the one) to go on a book signing tour of the middle east. Our tax dollars bought 10,000 copies of the Immam's book so he could hand them out to other Muslims as part of our multi faith outreach program. Had he been conversing with Jews and Christians in a legitimate hand shaking "multi faith" talks, I would have less of a problem. I can't see how us footing the bill for him to out reach to other people of his own belief is something I should be excited about.

I do not begrudge anyone their choice of Faith. I do have a problem with our government constantly limiting what we can do as Christians while seemingly bending over backward to help a religious group who has certifiably declared war on America. No, not all Muslims proclaim to hate America, but how many of them were gathered in the streets of various countries by the thousands on 9-11 cheering? were those thousands of people who were holding signs "Death to America" in many different countries all extremists? I have never seen that many Christian extremists gathered in the streets to celebrate another country's national tragedy like that. To each their own, but I would just rather stop all Faith related out reach altogether than to give hand outs and tax dollars to jihaddists. How do we know which ones are extremists and which ones aren't? For all we know, our tax dollars could be funding the next attack on America!

Sorry, I get all stirred up. I'll be making my opinion heard when I cast my ballot in November.

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« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2010, 01:59:50 pm »

radical christianity is not the answer to radical islam.  It is his right to burn a quoran, but it is not the right thing to do.  This guy is a first class idiot and publicity hound that doesn't care to think about the consequences of his actons.  He would be up in arms if somebody burned a stack of bibles, so what can you expect them?  All he is going to do is create more terrorists, and anti american sentiments in the middle east.  Will his actions have any effect overseas?  They already have and he hasn't lit his first match yet.  Does it put american troops in more danger?  You bet it does, thanks a lot jackass. 
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« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2010, 05:24:24 pm »

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« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2010, 05:27:44 pm »

 Ill guarantee you one thing. If his burning the koran causes one single american soldier to be killed, i bet a grieving, angry american mother will set his azz on fire. If it were my child, i wouldn't hesitate.
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« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2010, 07:51:23 pm »

Do yall think if he dont burn them that they are going to stop trying to kill our soliders, hell no that is what they want to kill all of the soliders over there. It makes me sick to think that we have let them burn bibles, flags and everything else that we hold sacred but one guy talks about burning something of theirs and everyone wants to bad mouth him. Im not saying what he is doing is right or wrong but i am saying we need to open our eyes and our mouths about the thing that they have been doing FOREVER! Just my thought on it.
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« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2010, 07:53:43 pm »

 Might offend our president, not me!
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« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2010, 07:54:49 pm »

 i say burn it! burn it twice! i think that the taliban and other muslins that r fighting and killin our fellow soldiers dont need an excuse to do it, they will do it just b/c its in their nature. why should we give up our rights to a bunch of towel heads? during the nam war, americans burned the american flag and bibles and very little was done about it. them muslims dont mind dragin our soldiers through the town after they r dead and the towns folks support it or are in fear and show fasle support, but either way, they support it. i fought and served under this government and fought in a place that was in my country to begin with, just so the government can trample OUR constitutional rights and have been shot at by folks that we shouldnt be at war with in the first place, and still continued to serve and did it for 13yrs till i broke my back and they put me out under a medical. the muslims and islams have been scrapping b4 christ was born, murdered and again walked the earth and they wont stop till they r all dead. there will never be peace over there. we will be back in iraq in less than 2yrs when that country's government falls again and then more of OUR soldiers will die, and for what/ whos rights? NOT ours!!!
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« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2010, 08:10:37 pm »

Im with u Charles. This subject just pisses me off to think that people are going to talk bad about one of OUR people but not about the muslins bc they dont want to offend them, I say screw them.
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« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2010, 09:27:56 pm »

 it's not that I give a darn about offending a muslim, on that I could really care less.  There's no love lost between us.  I just know right and wrong when I see it, and I know a little about how many muslim minds work and trust me this guy ain't making any friends.  I don't think we need to be stooping to their level, and I don't think that what this guy is doing is at all a good example of what a christian, especially one that is supposed to be a standard bearer and leader of his church should be doing.  that's what burns me the worst. 
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