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BIG CHRIS
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April 14, 2011, 11:51:54 pm »
whoo tmatt ur gonna be real popular fella pretty quick, i have one of them junk cur blue pits and i dnt mind taken him to the woods anytime! if u wanna go for hunt were rollen out this weekend in the canton area i think i have a 1% blue pit u may like to c
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Quote from: BIG CHRIS on April 14, 2011, 11:51:54 pm
whoo tmatt ur gonna be real popular fella pretty quick, i have one of them junk cur blue pits and i dnt mind taken him to the woods anytime! if u wanna go for hunt were rollen out this weekend in the canton area i think i have a 1% blue pit u may like to c
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I dont know much about gator mouf or blue pits catchin, all i know is i wouldnt give .02 for all them gotti, razors edge and all the others sellin them for stupid amounts of money. Now....just for the record... This is just MY opinion, I dont like them and wouldnt have one as a gift. Not cause they are blue but cause they too short legged, too big headed, too broad chested. To "me" They wouldnt be worth .02 in the woods. Im talkin about these short legged bandog lookin pits, that have been bred for the blue color.
It blows my mind, at the prices i see on these dogs, because of color and a name. To me thats like goin and buyin a pair of jeans already wore out, and holes all in them, and payin 5 times more than what a new pair would cost. But thats just me, If thats what you like and you got the money and you feedin it, thats all that matters.
I like the jeep lookin pits, game bred dogs, no matter the color, but thats just me, what do i know?
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Quote from: tnhillbilly on April 15, 2011, 01:18:05 am
Quote from: BIG CHRIS on April 14, 2011, 11:51:54 pm
whoo tmatt ur gonna be real popular fella pretty quick, i have one of them junk cur blue pits and i dnt mind taken him to the woods anytime! if u wanna go for hunt were rollen out this weekend in the canton area i think i have a 1% blue pit u may like to c
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I dont know much about gator mouf or blue pits catchin, all i know is i wouldnt give .02 for all them gotti, razors edge and all the others sellin them for stupid amounts of money. Now....just for the record... This is just MY opinion, I dont like them and wouldnt have one as a gift. Not cause they are blue but cause they too short legged, too big headed, too broad chested. To "me" They wouldnt be worth .02 in the woods. Im talkin about these short legged bandog lookin pits, that have been bred for the blue color.
It blows my mind, at the prices i see on these dogs, because of color and a name. To me thats like goin and buyin a pair of jeans already wore out, and holes all in them, and payin 5 times more than what a new pair would cost. But thats just me, If thats what you like and you got the money and you feedin it, thats all that matters.
I like the jeep lookin pits, game bred dogs, no matter the color, but thats just me, what do i know?
I agree
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April 15, 2011, 05:34:16 pm »
Quote from: tnhillbilly on April 15, 2011, 01:18:05 am
Quote from: BIG CHRIS on April 14, 2011, 11:51:54 pm
whoo tmatt ur gonna be real popular fella pretty quick, i have one of them junk cur blue pits and i dnt mind taken him to the woods anytime! if u wanna go for hunt were rollen out this weekend in the canton area i think i have a 1% blue pit u may like to c
lol
I dont know much about gator mouf or blue pits catchin, all i know is i wouldnt give .02 for all them gotti, razors edge and all the others sellin them for stupid amounts of money. Now....just for the record... This is just MY opinion, I dont like them and wouldnt have one as a gift. Not cause they are blue but cause they too short legged, too big headed, too broad chested. To "me" They wouldnt be worth .02 in the woods. Im talkin about these short legged bandog lookin pits, that have been bred for the blue color.
It blows my mind, at the prices i see on these dogs, because of color and a name. To me thats like goin and buyin a pair of jeans already wore out, and holes all in them, and payin 5 times more than what a new pair would cost. But thats just me, If thats what you like and you got the money and you feedin it, thats all that matters.
I like the jeep lookin pits, game bred dogs, no matter the color, but thats just me, what do i know?
i have a buddy that breeds gotti pits and they range for 1300 a piece, thats why i turned to bulldogs
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BIG CHRIS
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April 15, 2011, 06:10:32 pm »
fellas i know most blue pits that u c and hear of are gotti, edge, greyline, and are foremost are the american bully bred dogs, but like some one else posted the blue gene has been around just was never the trend and was culled for poor skin conditions and allergies. but i bred my blue dog out of avant/hammonds male and benedict/bismark gyp. the male was a fawn color dog and the gyp was a black seal and he was the only blue pup the rest of the litter was black brindle, red purple and green
all im sayen is u can get the blue gene from other lines of dogs that were not bully bred
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April 15, 2011, 06:50:27 pm »
lol i just found this thread and it made me feel old. i saw indian bolio many many years ago and owned a bolio daughter and a red baby grand daughter. i see someone talked about the mayday dog, a friend of mine owns all the mayday semen . personally i think you can find great catchdogs in the apbt without going the finely bred gamedog route. and style wise i dont want a fighting dog as a catchdog, i want a dog that catches and holds, not one that is willing to swap out holds or shake his holds out. also dont want a catchdog goin to the legs or the rear end.just my 2 pennies.
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April 15, 2011, 10:38:06 pm »
Not gonna be a post whore here but here is my blue nose and my red nose. now both loved to be outside in the woods for hours. the blue nose "dro" never liked a hog, he was more of a rescue dog so i kept him at my moms for security reasons.
this being said i think it comes down to the acutal individual dog on how and if they hunt, but i would lean to red nose.
tmatt this is the "gator" pit the vet talked about just a fyi, maybe you can show me alittle more insite
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April 15, 2011, 11:47:05 pm »
I had a blue and white dog named Hobo that was straight from Jay Benedict and he was a good blue one. The blue dogs that are common are junk. Like I said before there are some that are good but they are not very common. The athleticism has been bred out of most of the blue dogs. They are not able to move around like they should be able to and they are for damn sure not game. If they get cut.too bad, they will let go.and then your there with out a catch dog. Speaking of Bolio, I have a line bred Bolio dog here at the house that is 100% BULLDOG and is not interested in swapping out holds or going into the add end. If they are going to be catch dogs then I start them early on pigs just to keep them from trying to be dog aggressive and wanting to get on other dogs. I have some Jeep dogs, some Redboy dogs, some Eli (Boudreaux) dogs, as well as the others that were mentioned. I have always had the well bred game dogs. I want a dog that is going to be there no matter what happens and if something bad does happen, every hair on the dog will have to be dead for him to stop. Hey Big Chris when are ya'll heading out, I'd love to go out with ya'll. I'd like to see a good blue dog work.
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April 15, 2011, 11:54:57 pm »
Schitemhard, which one is the "gator" dog. Neither one of them look like a Plumber's Ch Alligator dog or even a Crenshaw's Gator bred dog. The only way to say you truly have an alligator dog is to have the papers and pedigree on the dog so that you know how it is bred. I had an alligator/eli bred bitch at one time and would be happy to show you the pedigree on her.
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BIG CHRIS
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April 16, 2011, 02:22:28 pm »
Schitemhard, that is fine looken gyp u have there! and i can c why the vet my tell u she is gator bacause of the shape of her muzzle. but like the post go "the gator dogs were a select dogs not whole breed of it`s own! it really kills me when u hear ppl talken like a red nose pit or a blue nose, or colby, jeep, carver boiles and the list goes on is a breed of dog all on it`s own. all these blood lines are simply a american pitbull terrier or the APBT. if u are after a good APBT as far as a true pit there goen to be ADBA bred not A.B.K.C which is the american bully kennel club. tmatt i will let u know when we go
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April 16, 2011, 11:05:13 pm »
Hey Big Chris, how big is that blue dog of yours? I think people saying that different lines and colors of pitbull dogs are their own breed is what irritates me when it comes to talking pitbull dogs. People just don't understand what they really are or are not. Everyone wants to call their dogs everything except what they really are. I also think they are both good looking dogs but you just can't tell how one is bred just by the looks. The exception to that is when you have one that is lingered on a particular bloodline and the it is pretty obvious what they are. I don't want anyone thinking I am knocking their dogs because to each his own but I am willing to put my dogs against any dog/dogs that are in the woods. I have put a lot of time and effort into breeding and maintaining the bloodline of my dogs and that is something that a lot of people dont bother with, they just buy a dog and use him and if he gets cut up too bad then they just get another one. I realize not everyone has the desire to maintain bloodlines like I do but that is something that I take a lot of pride in.
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April 17, 2011, 08:20:12 am »
The pits that are athletic are what it seems most hoghunters want, and function is more important than looks. On the other hand, you have gotti, razoredge, pits crossed with neopolitan mastiffs , that have no wind, cant do crap, except look 'BAD'. Usually, these dogs ,, and the people who own them are the dogs biting people, giving pits a bad name and getting all this legislation passed that hurts responsable pit owners and hunters. Hog hunters use pits to catch, if they show aggression they are culled. The folks that own the lil concrete block pits only care about the dog lookin bad, being bad and not happy with screwing up pitbulls, they're doing the same thing with american bulldogs. They"ll be next on the chopping blocks
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April 17, 2011, 10:11:44 am »
my shamus dogs chain weight is 57lbs when he is being worked in the woods he looses a lil weight but i think he looks better he is 19 inchs at the shoulders. my mom owns his brother, my dad owns a half brother my cousins all own littermates to this dog and im sure they would all catch and do the job if thats what was wanted out of them. but for the most they have family pet life.
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April 17, 2011, 11:28:22 am »
Quote from: T-Bob Parker on February 23, 2011, 09:11:08 pm
Quote from: blakebh on February 23, 2011, 01:25:41 pm
If your interested in a fastlane, working bloodline of the APBT then check out Evolution Kennels out of Houston I think! He has some real nice game bred APBT that are mostly line bred off of GRCH Machobuck. I sure like the build of these dogs!
Gr.Ch. Evolution Kennels Machobuck ROM
wow! i like the looks of that bad boy!
Where can I get me a pit like this one about 10 months to a 1.5 years old that is proven in a pen. I would like 60 to 70 pound dog. I like long legs and built for speed and agility. Must be dog friendly and people friendly and not hyper. Does not have to have registration papers and does not have to have special bloodlines if the dog is proven... (979-233-6403 or email is
rlcuellr@swbell.net
Must be close to Houston area.
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Ruben....I grew up with the boys who owned Macho Buck and last time I saw them they were getting $3000. - up to 10 k for Macho Buck pups.....may be a little expesive for a catch dog huh?
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April 17, 2011, 12:05:17 pm »
tmatt i didnt say i owned one. the vet simply made a comment about a "gator" mouth, i just blew it off. i dont care about breed or pedigree. a dog is a dog and if they catch is all that matters to me. ive had a blue pit that could catch but he would over heat to fast so id have to get close.
like i said i stick to bulldogs but love pits
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Quote from: UNDERDOG on April 17, 2011, 11:35:32 am
Ruben....I grew up with the boys who owned Macho Buck and last time I saw them they were getting $3000. - up to 10 k for Macho Buck pups.....may be a little expesive for a catch dog huh?
Man I was thinking 200 dollars for a lightly started pit and if he looks real good maybe 300...
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