GATOR PIT ? ? ? ?

[got2catchem]

Now what I like is them "Solid Rednose Gator Mouth"  Pits that weigh about 125lbs. Just don't get no better than that ..   

Thats how I roll 

[Draggin Weight]

I guess i need 2 get me a red blue nose gator mouth catch dog now and toss in a lil dogo for size

[sportsman]

maybe once upon a time a kid called his line gatormouf, Im here to tell you this line did not succeed in conformation shows, weightpull or the pit box. Now i dont fight my dogs, but I do know that a so called gatormouth dog can not excel like the american pit bull terrier in its true pure form. typically these are dogs bred to be bigger, and to look a certain way or be a color, now when folks have done this they veered away from the truth, they added different breeds thinkin it would help. they went bigger and got slower, they wanted strength but lost gameness. they wanted cool lookin colors and lost loyalty, now days yo got manbiters who give us all bad names. now Ill say this once agree or not this is not only my original opinion, conformation standard will help u get better results, now Im not sayin it will guarantee but for instance , short stifle(back leg looks strait)not like a kangaroo(springlike) lacks driving power, this comes from american buldogs crossed in, look at wide chests, this means lack of lung wind, yo need a deep chest not wide, look at a short stocky neck, this will give your dog a lack of ability to use leverage in action, when they are standing strait, their chin should be higher then the back line, a fat big head will give yur dog a weaker bite(gator mouths) because they cant use but their front teeth to bite,which is the wrong area weak.folks wanting to go bigger have ruined this breed and are really ignorant in the sense that they havent thought of all of the things that make a pitbull the pitbull. temperment ability wind ability drive intelligence, have been tainted by wanting to make one big, Id say fawk big they are slow wont last and will get their teeth pullrd out because they are too big to be able to hold their own weight

[redriverslim]

OK It's settled.  I'm gonna get me a pure old-family, rednose, blue-brindle, gator mouth, lock-jaw, blooodline pit.  But only if its ears are trimmed, cause you know that makes em' catch better.   

Thanks for the responses.  You guys clarified it to be exactly what I thought it was.  Just some knucklehead who come up with the term "gator-mouth pit", and it became urban legend from there.  As for you dudes who have "gator-pits", and think you have some kind of bloodline . . . YOU DONT.  And guess what, REDNOSE aint a bloodline either.  Sorry to crush your dreams, but if you have a rednose pit, you simply just have a pit with a red colored nose.  It's that simple.  Don't think that the color of a dog's nose makes it special, cause it don't.  I never cared what color a dog's nose was, as long as it was pointed in the right direction.       

       

[cward]

I was told one time that a red nose had a harder bite! I'm pretty sure that guy was telling me the truth!

[coyote hunter]

the papers i had on my dog never said gator mouth  just gator  i wish i still had the papers to prove it but she is from fighting dog background  i dont care wut any1 says i had papers on her an her line traced back aways  and her jaw is no joke  shes breakstick everytime on her rope sportsman u know keke  im no pit expert but i know wut i have an i am no storyteller  as for the rest of the bloodlines an wut not i have only read books an talked to breeders  but my dog come from a lineage  and i also have a solid white rednose pit but i just bought him off the street so i dont know anything other than hes all white an his nose can guide santas sleigh!

[E barnes]

Anyone know about carver pits I have a ole fellow that has pure carver he has been raising for 20 plus years but I can't afford a pup from him but he told me I could breed to a male.yall think they will be dog agressive being gAme bred

[got2catchem]

I need me a gator mouth, blue nosed crossed with red nosed pit. 

Check your local craigs list...

I be damed Underdog, You were right on the money.  
http://waco.craigslist.org/pet/2055570167.html
We have a almost 3 year old male blacknose(half red nose, half blue nose) male pitbull we are trying to rehome for our neighbor. Daddy was a all white rednose and Mommy was a blue brindle. Good with kids, very protective, would be better as a only dog. Needs room to run and someone to spend time with. UTD on all shots, not neutered. Pics are attached, e-mail with any questions, asking 100 OBO, registered through CKC

[Draggin Weight]

Anyone know about carver pits I have a ole fellow that has pure carver he has been raising for 20 plus years but I can't afford a pup from him but he told me I could breed to a male.yall think they will be dog agressive being gAme bred

depends on wut stain of carver he has if its that ole banjo stuff it will be major agro.

[Reuben]

Anyone know about carver pits I have a ole fellow that has pure carver he has been raising for 20 plus years but I can't afford a pup from him but he told me I could breed to a male.yall think they will be dog agressive being gAme bred

depends on wut stain of carver he has if its that ole banjo stuff it will be major agro.

Carver, Colby or whatever, the dogs are so diluted because so many generations have gone by that it is only a figure of speech as to what the dog is but it really does not mean anything. The only way it means anything is if the dog is linebred and inbred with this strain and the dogs were selected to perform exactly as the carver/colby dog or whatever strain.

[E barnes]

His is pure line bred from the old stuff he said other people crossed out he stayed with it now people are coming back to him he's selling pups for 600 to 1000 I like the looks good long legged athletic built dogs

[BIG BEN]

 Heck fellas a bulldog is a bulldog, papers, looks, conformation blah blah blah dont mean anything. The only thing that matters is if it will catch and stay hooked.

[sportsman]

heck yeah you said it, but the more involved you get and the better your dogs get you wanna be able to maintain those good traits by steadily throwin good offspring consistantly. How you do that is by tight breeding line breeding in breeding etc, larger genepools mean larger variations in litters, only some will be good and others will not be so great, so when you work hard and get good ones you want to preserve good ones, and keep from havin to cull the lesser ones, and for a catchdog you dont nessearily need an all out destroyer, they only catch for a little amount of time compared to a fast lane dog that can dominate in a situatuion where a great caliber dog is trying to rip his throat out, now as for me, I want a dog that can do more than just catch an ear, and as fast as these guys are in and out of this sport it helps to at least know what will give your dogs an advantage

[Reuben]

Heck fellas a bulldog is a bulldog, papers, looks, conformation blah blah blah dont mean anything. The only thing that matters is if it will catch and stay hooked.

Big Ben I agree with your thinking if you are looking for 1 good dog and you are buying a dog that is proven to catch. However if you were looking to breed better dogs or buy a small unproven pup then I would have to agree with Sportsman. I would buy a pup from a well bred line of dogs. I am not a bulldog man so I wouldn't pay the money for a well bred pit but I would for the well bred proven strike dog/pup...

[pltx ken]

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[Randy_P]

Heck fellas a bulldog is a bulldog, papers, looks, conformation blah blah blah dont mean anything. The only thing that matters is if it will catch and stay hooked.

Big Ben I agree with your thinking if you are looking for 1 good dog and you are buying a dog that is proven to catch. However if you were looking to breed better dogs or buy a small unproven pup then I would have to agree with Sportsman. I would buy a pup from a well bred line of dogs. I am not a bulldog man so I wouldn't pay the money for a well bred pit but I would for the well bred proven strike dog/pup...

Not to hijack the thread being discussed but a catch dog is just as important as a strike dog.  They both go hand-n-hand.  I am not saying to spend alot of money on either but both are vital to having success. 

[BIG BEN]

Not to hijack the thread being discussed but a catch dog is just as important as a strike dog.  They both go hand-n-hand.  I am not saying to spend alot of money on either but both are vital to having success.  
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 I agree that a CD is important but not near as important as a good strike dog, Folks can get it done without a CD but not without a strike dog but what Im getting at is you can find 50 good CD's in the time its take to breed, raise and try to use a bulldog in hog hunting. Its gonna be alot cheaper also. I for one dont have the time or patience to do this. Gator, red nose, blue, black, pink poke a dotted doesnt matter to me. I like the ole breeders that keep this world full of great potential CD's, the Ghettos and projects breeders and they are useally free.

[Scott]

Im getting at is you can find 50 good CD's in the time its take to breed, raise and try to use a bulldog in hog hunting. Its gonna be alot cheaper also.

I disagree...but I guess it depends on your standards...

[UNDERDOG]

This is what most folks think of now when someone mentions APBT....this is were some of them gator mouth dogs come from ha ha ....prolly want to mute the music tho....not one of these dogs looks like it could function as a working dog....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlCH4FI0HaU&list=PL124CB9E3EA7F77E8&index=14&playnext=2

[t.wilbanks]

Not to hijack the thread being discussed but a catch dog is just as important as a strike dog.  They both go hand-n-hand.  I am not saying to spend alot of money on either but both are vital to having success.  

I agree that a CD is important but not near as important as a good strike dog, Folks can get it done without a CD but not without a strike dog but what Im getting at is you can find 50 good CD's in the time its take to breed, raise and try to use a bulldog in hog hunting. Its gonna be alot cheaper also. I for one dont have the time or patience to do this. Gator, red nose, blue, black, pink poke a dotted doesnt matter to me. I like the ole breeders that keep this world full of great potential CD's, the Ghettos and projects breeders and they are useally free.
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Ben, Im going to have to agree with Randy on this one.
I know people can and do get it done without CDs, but if your style involves using CDs i also see them as being just as important as a strike dog. 

Id rather put alittle money into a well breed, good tempermental dog that i can have around my other dogs and family and not worry about them fighting or trying to bite someone.

I dont know if Randy still raises pits, but i would much rather buy a dog from him, than to go to the ghetto and get one of Big Mo's fight breed "Gata Moufs"       JMO!!

Pits are just like Strike dogs, many of them get the job done, but few have ALL the traits a hog dogger wants.